Cade's agent and "team" coming to Detroit to meet with Weaver about when he can start playing.

[treefi]

There you go. Cade is on course to play Wednesday. Now the team has said something and all you whining conspiracy theorists can admit that you were wrong and settle down.

You sure are wrong a lot.

[Manocad]

There you go. Cade is on course to play Wednesday. Now the team has said something and all you whining conspiracy theorists can admit that you were wrong and settle down.

You sure are wrong a lot.

Oh, bless your heart.

The claim was that the team was hiding a serious injury by not announcing Cade's status for Wednesday's game. Since the team has now announced that he won't play, by that same logic he doesn't have a serious injury because the team has announced his status. And he doesn't, as recent video has clearly demonstrated. I'm right about that and it's inarguable. I applaud your effort though, futile as it may be.

[johanliebert]

Why not just give a timeline instead of this clown show.

[Manocad]

Why not just give a timeline instead of this clown show.

Because you can't say "This injury will be 100% healed in one week, then he'll play"?

[thesack12]

Why not just give a timeline instead of this clown show.

Yeah, The vast majority of professional sports injuries have some type of timeline label applied to them.

"Week to week", "day to day", "out 3-5 weeks", "60 day disabled list" etc.

Of course setbacks happen from time to time, and those timeframes get extended, but to never have a tangible timeline announced is not common practice at all.

The interesting thing is now that the cat is out of the bag about Cade not playing in the opener, they have already ruled him out for the upcoming road trip. Which is by far the earliest he has been ruled out of anything to date. While of course, they left the possibility open he "could" play in the next home game after the road trip. The common denominator there, being they don't care about ticket sales on the road, but they want fans to believe he's going to play at home so they can sell tickets.

[zeebneeb]

Why not just give a timeline instead of this clown show.

Because you can't say "This injury will be 100% healed in one week, then he'll play"?

You know I'm with you 99% of the time, but this is a little wierd. Cade "twisted his ankle" 20 days ago.

Now what I'm hoping is that Casey doesn't want to play him because he's not up to speed practice wise, but you better believe Gores wanted Cade out there for the rebirth of the Pistons franchise for opening night. For Cade to miss opening night, the injury had to of been more severe then the team let on, and i don't think its possible to argue this point.

Do I think its a career ending, or other BS thing? No, of course not, but a simple twisted ankle doesn't keep the #1 pick in the draft, out of opening night.

[Manocad]

Why not just give a timeline instead of this clown show.

Because you can't say "This injury will be 100% healed in one week, then he'll play"?

You know I'm with you 99% of the time, but this is a little wierd. Cade "twisted his ankle" 20 days ago.

Now what I'm hoping is that Casey doesn't want to play him because he's not up to speed practice wise, but you better believe Gores wanted Cade out there for the rebirth of the Pistons franchise for opening night. For Cade to miss opening night, the injury had to of been more severe then the team let on, and i don't think its possible to argue this point.

Do I think its a career ending, or other BS thing? No, of course not, but a simple twisted ankle doesn't keep the #1 pick in the draft, out of opening night.

That's the day-to-day thing, man. Don't know what anyone else expects. Like I said, it's not like the team can say "This injury will be healed in X days."

[Rip32]

Bey had the same injury but he wants and will play today. Either Cade is soft or the Pistons are lying about the degree of the injury

[bstein14]

Bey had the same injury but he wants and will play today. Either Cade is soft or the Pistons are lying about the degree of the injury

Bey gets to play through some minor ankle soreness because he isn't super valuable and the face of the franchise. Cade is "too valuable for us" to take a risk on and those are the words used directly by Casey.

[Rip32]

Bey had the same injury but he wants and will play today. Either Cade is soft or the Pistons are lying about the degree of the injury

Bey gets to play through some minor ankle soreness because he isn't super valuable and the face of the franchise. Cade is "too valuable for us" to take a risk on and those are the words used directly by Casey.

It's a lot of pressure on Cade. If he fails this might be a situation like Ben Simmons

[whitehops]

That's the day-to-day thing, man. Don't know what anyone else expects. Like I said, it's not like the team can say "This injury will be healed in X days."

it's not really a day-to-day injury if he the player has been out for three weeks.

and what do you mean? these are high-level sports doctors that can (and do) give timelines based on the severity of the injury and the time that it has taken other athletes to come back from them. the team absolutely has a timeline, they're obviously not reporting it. like weaver said cade is "pretty much day to day" but then said he "would anticipate hopefully seeing him when we get back off the road" which is ten days away lol. again - that's not day to day, that's more week-to-week territory.

[Manocad]

That's the day-to-day thing, man. Don't know what anyone else expects. Like I said, it's not like the team can say "This injury will be healed in X days."

it's not really a day-to-day injury if he the player has been out for three weeks.

and what do you mean? these are high-level sports doctors that can (and do) give timelines based on the severity of the injury and the time that it has taken other athletes to come back from them. the team absolutely has a timeline, they're obviously not reporting it. like weaver said cade is "pretty much day to day" but then said he "would anticipate hopefully seeing him when we get back off the road" which is ten days away lol. again - that's not day to day, that's more week-to-week territory.

What are YOU talking about? Day-to-day means could be today, could be tomorrow. It has nothing to do with how long it took from the day the injury occurred to the point of it being on day-to-day status. You can break your leg, have it in a cast for 10 weeks, rehab after getting the cast off for 2 weeks and be day-to-day at that point. In no way, shape or form can ANY doctor say "Rolled ankle? He WILL be playing 14 days from now." By the same token, a guy could sprain his ankle, be out for the rest of the game, then be day-to-day from that point forward. Timelines for recovery from injuries are projections, not guarantees.

[potatoaim]

If the team didnt know the severity of the injury shortly after it happened, they need to find new doctors. There is a massive difference between a "minor ankle roll" and an ankle injury thats going to keep you out for at least a month.

The team knew exactly how bad it was when it happened, but downplayed for as long as they could to milk as many tickets as possible.

[whitehops]

What are YOU talking about? Day-to-day means could be today, could be tomorrow. It has nothing to do with how long it took from the day the injury occurred to the point of it being on day-to-day status. You can break your leg, have it in a cast for 10 weeks, rehab after getting the cast off for 2 weeks and be day-to-day at that point. In no way, shape or form can ANY doctor say "Rolled ankle? He WILL be playing 14 days from now." By the same token, a guy could sprain his ankle, be out for the rest of the game, then be day-to-day from that point forward. Timelines for recovery from injuries are projections, not guarantees.

cade isn't day to day if he's already ruled out more than a week in advance. day to day typically means they'll be good to go in the next couple days i.e. on the verge of returning from injury.

and i'm aware timelines are not guarantees, the issue is that the team never gave fans a timeline (and you know they have one because they met with cade's team about it). instead they've been saying "day to day" for three weeks and NOW say he's out for at least the next ten days (until the 30th).

[Manocad]

If the team didnt know the severity of the injury shortly after it happened, they need to find new doctors. There is a massive difference between a "minor ankle roll" and an ankle injury thats going to keep you out for at least a month.

The team knew exactly how bad it was when it happened, but downplayed for as long as they could to milk as many tickets as possible.

Knowing the severity of the injury relative to what was damaged is absolutely easy--x-rays, swelling, etc. But here's the part you're missing--the healing part is not only undetectable in some cases, but not guaranteed nor the same person to person. Why do you think doctors ask the patient how much something hurts? Because they can't determine that everything causing pain has healed.

Now, if you want to argue that the team milked it to sell tickets, have at it. Did you buy a ticket? No? Then you have no reason to be upset.

[Manocad]

What are YOU talking about? Day-to-day means could be today, could be tomorrow. It has nothing to do with how long it took from the day the injury occurred to the point of it being on day-to-day status. You can break your leg, have it in a cast for 10 weeks, rehab after getting the cast off for 2 weeks and be day-to-day at that point. In no way, shape or form can ANY doctor say "Rolled ankle? He WILL be playing 14 days from now." By the same token, a guy could sprain his ankle, be out for the rest of the game, then be day-to-day from that point forward. Timelines for recovery from injuries are projections, not guarantees.

cade isn't day to day if he's already ruled out more than a week in advance. day to day typically means they'll be good to go in the next couple days i.e. on the verge of returning from injury.

and i'm aware timelines are not guarantees, the issue is that the team never gave fans a timeline (and you know they have one because they met with cade's team about it). instead they've been saying "day to day" for three weeks and NOW say he's out for at least the next ten days (until the 30th).

And? Did it affect your plans?

[whitehops]

And? Did it affect your plans?

it toyed with my emotions.

[potatoaim]

If the team didnt know the severity of the injury shortly after it happened, they need to find new doctors. There is a massive difference between a "minor ankle roll" and an ankle injury thats going to keep you out for at least a month.

The team knew exactly how bad it was when it happened, but downplayed for as long as they could to milk as many tickets as possible.

Knowing the severity of the injury relative to what was damaged is absolutely easy--x-rays, swelling, etc. But here's the part you're missing--the healing part is not only undetectable in some cases, but not guaranteed nor the same person to person. Why do you think doctors ask the patient how much something hurts? Because they can't determine that everything causing pain has healed.

Now, if you want to argue that the team milked it to sell tickets, have at it. Did you buy a ticket? No? Then you have no reason to be upset.

Maybe they should have chosen their words a little more carefully. The way they described it from the start shouldnt have been anywhere near enough to keep anyone out for at least a month.

And no, i didnt buy a ticket. However, misleading people to sell tickets is pretty scummy. I dont need to be duped by them to acknowledge that. Besides, who made you the authority on what people should or shouldnt be annoyed at?

[Manocad]

If the team didnt know the severity of the injury shortly after it happened, they need to find new doctors. There is a massive difference between a "minor ankle roll" and an ankle injury thats going to keep you out for at least a month.

The team knew exactly how bad it was when it happened, but downplayed for as long as they could to milk as many tickets as possible.

Knowing the severity of the injury relative to what was damaged is absolutely easy--x-rays, swelling, etc. But here's the part you're missing--the healing part is not only undetectable in some cases, but not guaranteed nor the same person to person. Why do you think doctors ask the patient how much something hurts? Because they can't determine that everything causing pain has healed.

Now, if you want to argue that the team milked it to sell tickets, have at it. Did you buy a ticket? No? Then you have no reason to be upset.

Maybe they should have chosen their words a little more carefully. The way they described it from the start shouldnt have been anywhere near enough to keep anyone out for at least a month.

And no, i didnt buy a ticket. However, misleading people to sell tickets is pretty scummy. I dont need to be duped by them to acknowledge that. Besides, who made you the authority on what people should or shouldnt be annoyed at?

No one made me the authority on anything; I never said anyone shouldn't feel whatever they want to feel. I simply said there was no reason to be upset. I also never said I wouldn't poke fun at something that deserved it. Because that much I can guarantee you is gonna happen. It's an internet forum which basically means it's nothing more than a form of entertainment, and you can bet your hurt feelings that I'm going to make it entertaining. For just myself if no one else.

[Manocad]

Did I just watch Troy Weaver say that it's always hard to tell what will happen with an ankle injury, that Cade's ankle was taking longer to heal than expected, and that he's day to day at this point? CRAZY!!! Now, other than someone going to the media every single day and saying "Cade is still day to day" until he is announced as being in the lineup for a game, what's a better answer?