Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6

[Tomjas]

Watched a little bit of both games last night. You have to appreciate how Golden State and Milwaukee have finely crafted their teams around their respective superstars. That's what we should have been doing for Joel but have falsely been catering to a child instead.

Of all the nonsense written about Simmons this takes the cake

The team is all about Joel from roster to load management

Everything

Joel is a bigger child than Simmons & spits the dummy when people state the obvious so it can’t be mentioned

[phiphan]

Watched a little bit of both games last night. You have to appreciate how Golden State and Milwaukee have finely crafted their teams around their respective superstars. That's what we should have been doing for Joel but have falsely been catering to a child instead.

Of all the nonsense written about Simmons this takes the cake

The team is all about Joel from roster to load management

Everything

Joel is a bigger child than Simmons & spits the dummy when people state the obvious so it can’t be mentioned

If it were built around Joel then we'd have a 'PG' who could shoot or playmake in half court.

[agiaco]

Watched a little bit of both games last night. You have to appreciate how Golden State and Milwaukee have finely crafted their teams around their respective superstars. That's what we should have been doing for Joel but have falsely been catering to a child instead.

Of all the nonsense written about Simmons this takes the cake

The team is all about Joel from roster to load management

Everything

Joel is a bigger child than Simmons & spits the dummy when people state the obvious so it can’t be mentioned

A bigger child? Tf are you smoking.

[Bum Adebayo]

Watched a little bit of both games last night. You have to appreciate how Golden State and Milwaukee have finely crafted their teams around their respective superstars. That's what we should have been doing for Joel but have falsely been catering to a child instead.

Of all the nonsense written about Simmons this takes the cake

The team is all about Joel from roster to load management

Everything

Joel is a bigger child than Simmons & spits the dummy when people state the obvious so it can’t be mentioned

Yeah it is all Embiid's fault of course, it is all about Embiid when he has never had a great shot creator playing with him, only Butler and he was still not the most ideal player due to 3pt shooting. Simmons of course hasn't had the best team around him too, but the difference is that he is considerably worse as a player than Embiid.

[Rastas]

Watched a little bit of both games last night. You have to appreciate how Golden State and Milwaukee have finely crafted their teams around their respective superstars. That's what we should have been doing for Joel but have falsely been catering to a child instead.

Yes - Joel should up his Usage to 50% - Can't Fail!

[Philly's Best]

Watched a little bit of both games last night. You have to appreciate how Golden State and Milwaukee have finely crafted their teams around their respective superstars. That's what we should have been doing for Joel but have falsely been catering to a child instead.

Of all the nonsense written about Simmons this takes the cake

The team is all about Joel from roster to load management

Everything

Joel is a bigger child than Simmons & spits the dummy when people state the obvious so it can’t be mentioned

[Negrodamus]

It's not worth engaging, guys. The goalposts move and nary a worthy point is ever made.

For instance, the Sixers "don't want Ben here and haven't for months" despite saying publicly that they want to keep Ben. That's a fine argument to have, but you can't also hold the belief that Ben never said/did anything to exacerbate the situation and that it's all media hearsay or Klutch Sports's words these past 5 months.

[GoSixersBro]

Why are y'all feeding the troll?

[Tomjas]

It's not worth engaging, guys. The goalposts move and nary a worthy point is ever made.

For instance, the Sixers "don't want Ben here and haven't for months" despite saying publicly that they want to keep Ben. That's a fine argument to have, but you can't also hold the belief that Ben never said/did anything to exacerbate the situation and that it's all media hearsay or Klutch Sports's words these past 5 months.

Those millions of $ in fines are reeeaaaally encouraging Ben to stay

Gtfoh

If anything, the Sixers propaganda is worse than Klutch

[Sixerscan]

It's not worth engaging, guys. The goalposts move and nary a worthy point is ever made.

For instance, the Sixers "don't want Ben here and haven't for months" despite saying publicly that they want to keep Ben. That's a fine argument to have, but you can't also hold the belief that Ben never said/did anything to exacerbate the situation and that it's all media hearsay or Klutch Sports's words these past 5 months.

Those millions of $ in fines are reeeaaaally encouraging Ben to stay

Gtfoh

If anything, the Sixers propaganda is worse than Klutch

It's encouraging him to do his job while he's under contract. They don't need to convince him to stay. If they want him here he's here until they trade him just like everyone else on the team. If he wants to act up they'll just factor that in. You go back and forth between making sense and just being irrational in your support for this guy. Unless he's paying you he's not worth it.

[spikeslovechild]

Morey needs to be fired out of a cannon...What a complete and utter **** show

How the f is this Morey fault. All this **** is one persons problem and that is Simmons.

I for one am glad we have Morey. Lesser GM's would have just caved got a garbage return and Simmons would be popping the champagne with Rich Paul while the Sixers would be f'ed for the forseeable future.

As far as I'm concerned if the returns are as trash as reported we lose nothing really by waiting and either forcing Simmons to come back, not pay him, or maybe a better opportunity presents itself

Neither the Sixers nor Simmons want Ben here and that’s been clear for months

Morey’s job is to manage the roster and he’s fkd it up

It really is that simple

Morey job is to make trades and manage the roster in such a way that improves the Sixers.

Every move he has done so far has made the team better from getting Curry for Richardson. Dumping Al for Green. Bringing in Howard and now Drummond.

He also tried trading Simmons for Harden but it didn't work out eventhough pretty much everyone agrees the Sixers offer was better. Simmons could have waited and probably got his wish without losing millions but he instead decided to do a holdout. Morey is not responsible for the actions of that man child.

[Negrodamus]

Klutch isn't the bad guys! Actually, the Sixers are doing the things you say Klutch is!

Ben's not the bad guy! It's actually Embiid who's the bad guy and keeping Ben from being his best self!

(Repeat in some variation 400 times)

[Mik317]

Its never Ben's fault.

Like peeps can't even meet people half way either. I think the notion of everything falls on Ben is also false. Does not. Team losing 27 point leads is well a team "effort"..so yeah not all of it falls on him. The notorious pass for example...sucked balls but Thybulle missed a FTs and also went up weak as hell on the layup. Doc gave away game one by having Danny get cooked. Jo attempts to do too much in the clutch and that happens with or without Ben some times. All of these things lead to the loss. I don't think any reasonable sixer fan (which mean this doesn't include the ones who have been acting like Ben shot their dog even prior or the ones who live in the moment) would say otherwise. However the Ben boiz act like their guy has nothing to do with it. The constant deflection of well Embiid is a big poopy head for saying stuff ignores the fact that Ben has had multiple different reasons for his beef and none of them have been the comments but also the fact that dude couldn't even be assed to fake try. He refused to follow orders. Love Jo but if he pulled that then his ass should be suspended too.

When Jo was a fat ass who didn't take his fitness seriously that was a problem. But he manned up and fixed that. He seems to be focusing on fixing his passing now. Despite the rep people around here don't really care if you fail, just give effort, pander a bit and you are teflon. Most fans have been on Ben's side. They cheered when he even TOOK a shot. We were happy for Fultz to just be out on the floor. We get hyped when Maxey makes a goddam layup lol. Just try and show that you are making the attempt to improve.....Ben has not. He improved defensively but has regressed in all other facets and after dying on the main stage decided the best option was to bail. I think a lot of the "Real Philly Fan" **** is bull and lame but I don't think that would fly anywhere else. Generally when "stars" ask out they have valid reasons....Ben can't even stick with one of his "reasons". And generally most ask out close to their contract, because they are also basically telling the team I'm out then anyway or in some cases want to get paid (Jimmy). Ben's reasoning is that the team didn't kiss his ass after a bad loss and that they tried to trade him for James Harden. Or is that he needs his own team....or is it that he needed to be able to fail. Or is it that the coach doesn't call plays for him...the unwilling shooter. Like take a step back and remove your fandom from all of this and really take a look at the whole scenario... now in what world does any of the above make you feel like Ben is the victim here? I hate that it has come to this because I think Ben can still be a very good player in this league. I also kinda feel like we are a few years away from blowing it up and while I love Jo...i don't know if he can be the main guy on a championship team. BUT i cannot grasp the idea that people keep trying to make it seem like Ben has a lesser role to play in any of this. Like even if I was JUST a Ben fan....I'd be pissed because none of this is a good look for the guy. He comes off as a soft loser who is scared to even try and is looking for anyone but him to take the fall..and thats just not cool lol. I was in this very thread (or the last 20) stating that no way Ben acted out..and yet here we are and yet here we are still going "well actually Embiid and Morey tho". This isn't about them right now. This is about Ben.

but keep moving those goal posts I guess

[Philly's Best]

Klutch isn't the bad guys! Actually, the Sixers are doing the things you say Klutch is!

Ben's not the bad guy! It's actually Embiid who's the bad guy and keeping Ben from being his best self!

(Repeat in some variation 400 times)

Tomjas = Ben's Burner

[Damienfan]

Does syntax realize trolling us won't get Ben what he wants?

[erving4ever]

https://hoopshype.com/2021/10/20/sixers-not-trying-to-trade-ben-simmons/

So he's here to stay?

[fkd215]

I think this situation is all Morey’s fault! No, wait, it’s Joel’s! Maybe it’s Tobias Harris. Or Grant Riller. The equipment manager had a hand in all this. And Jenny from the Wells Fargo Center Shake Shack isn’t blameless either.

The one person who we can all agree is a poor, blameless victim, who had no role, responsibility, or agency in this situation, is Ben Simmons.

[Simmons25]

I guess in hindsight this predraft scouting report was fairly accurate huh?

[Stanford]

He was wrong about the position bit

[phillynative]

I'm always surprised that you think Embiid is a championship caliber player when he has proven that he can't score late in playoff games. That seems to be the kind of guy you'd avoid.

Neither could Giannis. He was a dunker's spot scrub at the end of games that mattered. Then they surrounding him with a bunch of supporting pieces that fit and they were able to break through.

Middleton and Jrue are All Stars/All NBA two way players. They are just really good players surrounding Giannis. Deep and experienced

Fit together much much better too.

This . Cannot compare Embiids roster to Giannis's at this point or even last season. Not to mention their bench blows the sixers out as well. The only player that is a sure thing from the 76ers bench is Drummond as an interior presence.