If You Had to Choose: Kyrie for...

[Stone]

I voted Grant-Bey......

[LOUiS-D]

We have depth up the wazoo. Even without Kyrie we're wondering whether Clax and Killa Cam are gonna get burn. I'm in the camp of keep waiting on Kai.

[Rastas]

Currently its only
Wall
Love

Soon maybe
Westbrook

[Prokorov]

It makes 0 sense to trade Kyrie at the moment. His biggest draw to the team at the moment would be a distraction, but he isnt practacing playing and nash/team has stated they have said all they have and wont take any more quesitons on it.

His value is low,and teams wouldnt have him against the nets, who would clearly be a contender this year.He is a pending free agent who isnt likely to sign with more teams.

from the nets side. you have time to make a decision. as mentioned we are going into the year healthy with insane depth and as is cant find time for an all-nba defender and our #1 pick. We dont even know what our "needs" are right now. every team will have injuries, making a deal when we have a more clear need makes more sense. further, teams would have to pay half his salary at the deadline only, and he may be more willing to suit up for another team by them.

By waiting, we also get the benefit of seeing if he gets vaxxed ro the mandate changes to allow him to play... the likely new mayor just said he is "Extremely optomistic" Kyrie will play. He would take office Jan 1.

im not saying he cant or wont be dealt, but doing it now helps in 0 ways and is emotional.

[kyphi]

I know some players have strange beliefs. This guy is a flat-earth anti-vaxxer. He can't carry a team by himself. ditch him

[ecuhus1981]

I know some players have strange beliefs. This guy is a flat-earth anti-vaxxer. He can't carry a team by himself. ditch him

He doesn't need to carry the Nets. As others have stated, HWSNBN is a 2nd yacht for us. To other teams, he would be an undisputed alpha. In Brooklyn, he would take us from one of the favorites, to an almost lock for the title. With HWSNBN, we could withstand a significant injury to either Harden or Durant, and stay on track for the #1 overall seed. Without him, we'll have to hope for good health, and expect to drop a few ugly games when it superstar duo need to rest.

[8David24]

His value is too low for trade. I hope he comes to his senses and gets vaccinated. Because I really don't want the Lakers to win the ring. On the other hand, with Russell Westbrook on the team, they cannot win, even on bokies like bet365 slovenija The Lakers are the favorites to win

[Gooner]

His value is too low for trade. I hope he comes to his senses and gets vaccinated. Because I really don't want the Lakers to win the ring.

You can trade him for Bertans and KCP. It makes sense for Washington as they are trying to convince Beal to stay, they need more talent, and you get 3 and D player in KCP and Harris backup in Bertans. You are not gonna get another star for Kyrie so they would have to focus on specific needs if they were to trade him at some point.

[Prokorov]

I know some players have strange beliefs. This guy is a flat-earth anti-vaxxer. He can't carry a team by himself. ditch him

He stated explicitly he is not anti-vaxx. He retracted the flat earth thing and admitted he was being an idioit.

please troll elsewhere. there is plenty of legit kyrie criticism in here.

[Prokorov]

His value is too low for trade. I hope he comes to his senses and gets vaccinated. Because I really don't want the Lakers to win the ring.

You can trade him for Bertans and KCP. It makes sense for Washington as they are trying to convince Beal to stay, they need more talent, and you get 3 and D player in KCP and Harris backup in Bertans. You are not gonna get another star for Kyrie so they would have to focus on specific needs if they were to trade him at some point.

That would be the worst trade in sports hisotry.

it makes more sense to let kyrie expire or cut/stretch him.

[kyphi]

would you trade him for ben simmons?

[Prokorov]

would you trade him for ben simmons?

of course not.

[ecuhus1981]

would you trade him for ben simmons?

of course not.

In terms of value return, we could do worse. He certainly would help us more than the absent Irving does.

However, most folks on the outside think that Ben would improve us more than a present Kyrie does, and it's not true. Simmons would improve our defense, but he is a really funky fit for our offense. E couldn't play Bruce or Nic next to him, unless we change our scheme. Also, Ben demands full playmaking rein, and it simply will not happen with Harden.

[Prokorov]

would you trade him for ben simmons?

of course not.

In terms of value return, we could do worse. He certainly would help us more than the absent Irving does.

However, most folks on the outside think that Ben would improve us more than a present Kyrie does, and it's not true. Simmons would improve our defense, but he is a really funky fit for our offense. E couldn't play Bruce or Nic next to him, unless we change our scheme. Also, Ben demands full playmaking rein, and it simply will not happen with Harden.

i view simmons as negative value to the nets. and thus 0 games of kyrie is better. id also rather get the tax savings if kyrie is gone then pay huge tax for simmons.

kyrie potentially coming back raises our ceiling 100 times more then simmons, who imo lowers it

[ecuhus1981]

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As an addendum, I do think that Kyrie makes a ton of sense in Philly. So much so, that I would be concerned at how much more dangerous they become. Simmons is a great defender, but with Joel, Matias and Danny, they would be fine on that end. Offensively, they would take an enormous leap forward, especially in late game, playoff situations.

Still, I would roll the dice on creating another rival, and deal him to improve ourselves. Ben would need to be re-routed to a 3rd team, though.

[Gooner]

His value is too low for trade. I hope he comes to his senses and gets vaccinated. Because I really don't want the Lakers to win the ring.

You can trade him for Bertans and KCP. It makes sense for Washington as they are trying to convince Beal to stay, they need more talent, and you get 3 and D player in KCP and Harris backup in Bertans. You are not gonna get another star for Kyrie so they would have to focus on specific needs if they were to trade him at some point.

That would be the worst trade in sports hisotry.

it makes more sense to let kyrie expire or cut/stretch him.

You can't ignore the circumstances, Kyrie isn't allowed to play, and if that continues in the next few weeks, he will be traded, and you won't be able to get much for him for various reasons. It would be better to get some good role players and depth than a fake star like Simmons. Obviously the best case scenario is that mandate gets lifted, so it's worth waiting with any decisions, but how long will that last, that's the question.

[Prokorov]

You can trade him for Bertans and KCP. It makes sense for Washington as they are trying to convince Beal to stay, they need more talent, and you get 3 and D player in KCP and Harris backup in Bertans. You are not gonna get another star for Kyrie so they would have to focus on specific needs if they were to trade him at some point.

That would be the worst trade in sports hisotry.

it makes more sense to let kyrie expire or cut/stretch him.

You can't ignore the circumstances, Kyrie isn't allowed to play, and if that continues in the next few weeks, he will be traded, and you won't be able to get much for him for various reasons. It would be better to get some good role players and depth than a fake star like Simmons. Obviously the best case scenario is that mandate gets lifted, so it's worth waiting with any decisions, but how long will that last, that's the question.

i am considering the circumstances. letting kyrie go for nothing > KCP/bertans. if we are going to move Kyrie for less the superstar value we need to do it as a salary dump so we lower the tax and can keep Harden/KD for 4 years (as of now, we could go maybe 2)

[ecuhus1981]

I'm with Prok on this one.

Pope and Bertans aren't even locks to make the regular rotation. It's not worth it. We don't need warm bodies, we have enough depth. We need difference makers.

[Gooner]

That would be the worst trade in sports hisotry.

it makes more sense to let kyrie expire or cut/stretch him.

You can't ignore the circumstances, Kyrie isn't allowed to play, and if that continues in the next few weeks, he will be traded, and you won't be able to get much for him for various reasons. It would be better to get some good role players and depth than a fake star like Simmons. Obviously the best case scenario is that mandate gets lifted, so it's worth waiting with any decisions, but how long will that last, that's the question.

i am considering the circumstances. letting kyrie go for nothing > KCP/bertans. if we are going to move Kyrie for less the superstar value we need to do it as a salary dump so we lower the tax and can keep Harden/KD for 4 years (as of now, we could go maybe 2)

I just can't see the Nets letting Kyrie go for nothing. I also think there is room on this roster for more shooting and perimeter defense. Bertans would be a Shamet replacement, and KCP would be a perimeter defender that can also shoot, unlike Brown or Bembry. You also need more offense from Harris without Kyrie, so KCP can start games and take the best opposing perimeter player instead of him and you don't need to give guys that can't shoot too many minutes.

You can never have enough shooting in today's NBA. You lose a lot without Kyrie because he is also an elite shooter among many other things. Nets need more shooting if he doesn't come back, especially against a team like Milwaukee that packs the paint. You have to make 3's.

[Prokorov]

You can't ignore the circumstances, Kyrie isn't allowed to play, and if that continues in the next few weeks, he will be traded, and you won't be able to get much for him for various reasons. It would be better to get some good role players and depth than a fake star like Simmons. Obviously the best case scenario is that mandate gets lifted, so it's worth waiting with any decisions, but how long will that last, that's the question.

i am considering the circumstances. letting kyrie go for nothing > KCP/bertans. if we are going to move Kyrie for less the superstar value we need to do it as a salary dump so we lower the tax and can keep Harden/KD for 4 years (as of now, we could go maybe 2)

I just can't see the Nets letting Kyrie go for nothing. I also think there is room on this roster for more shooting and perimeter defense. Bertans would be a Shamet replacement, and KCP would be a perimeter defender that can also shoot, unlike Brown or Bembry. You also need more offense from Harris without Kyrie, so KCP can start games and take the best opposing perimeter player instead of him and you don't need to give guys that can't shoot too many minutes.

You can never have enough shooting in today's NBA. You lose a lot without Kyrie because he is also an elite shooter among many other things. Nets need more shooting if he doesn't come back, especially against a team like Milwaukee that packs the paint. You have to make 3's.

The nets have massive long term fincancial issue. if they cant get a star for kyrie, they would seek trades for a salary dump, not to bring in more low level role guys