Cade's agent and "team" coming to Detroit to meet with Weaver about when he can start playing.

[DBC10]

^^^ The label of "sprain" has never been connected to Cade's ankle tho.

just stumbled upon this: https://ak-static.cms.nba.com/referee/injury/Injury-Report_2021-10-20_04PM.pdf

so the pistons officially labeled him having a sprained ankle with the league, but not with the fans.

I think there's nothing inherently wrong about being more transparent about the situation and there's points to be made whether or not the Pistons were doing just that. But it's what I come to expect in sports entertainment nowadays, where they have all the incentive to not say anything just as much as incentive to being wholly transparent

They went the other way and I can at least see why. I can also see why a lot of people are justifiably bummed out about not seeing Cade and no real time table set for his absolute certain return

[DetroitSho]

Man what are y'all opinions on Taylor Decker's injury. Based on this thread some of y'all must be LIVID about the changing timelines. Lol

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[zeebneeb]

So, unless more smoke is being blown up our collective skirts, it would seem that the first time we all get to see Cade play will be October 30th, against the Magic, yes?

[thesack12]

So, unless more smoke is being blown up our collective skirts, it would seem that the first time we all get to see Cade play will be October 30th, against the Magic, yes?

With the info currently available, yes that would be the earliest.

However, the team has said that he will need to get a few practices in before he gets cleared to play in games. I'm assuming they mean full speed/go practices, in which he still has not gotten any in yet.

He's also not traveling with the team for the upcoming 3 game road trip, which obviously means he won't be practicing until Friday the 29th at the earliest. Not traveling also leads you to believe that he's not on the cusp of getting cleared for full go practices either.

So, I personally wouldn't be at all surprised if he misses the home game against the Magic on the 30th. Honestly, I half way expect him to.

[DNice68]

So, unless more smoke is being blown up our collective skirts, it would seem that the first time we all get to see Cade play will be October 30th, against the Magic, yes?

That’s when ‘they say’ he will play!

[whitehops]

So, unless more smoke is being blown up our collective skirts, it would seem that the first time we all get to see Cade play will be October 30th, against the Magic, yes?

With the info currently available, yes that would be the earliest.

However, the team has said that he will need to get a few practices in before he gets cleared to play in games. I'm assuming they mean full speed/go practices, in which he still has not gotten any in yet.

He's also not traveling with the team for the upcoming 3 game road trip, which obviously means he won't be practicing until Friday the 29th at the earliest. Not traveling also leads you to believe that he's not on the cusp of getting cleared for full go practices either.

So, I personally wouldn't be at all surprised if he misses the home game against the Magic on the 30th. Honestly, I half way expect him to.

but buy your tickets!

[Manocad]

So, unless more smoke is being blown up our collective skirts, it would seem that the first time we all get to see Cade play will be October 30th, against the Magic, yes?

That’s when ‘they say’ he will play!

Nope. That's not what "Out until at least October 30" means. Crazy at it may sound, doctors aren't able to say "This injury will absolutely be healed by this date. No doubt about it."

[Manocad]

So, unless more smoke is being blown up our collective skirts, it would seem that the first time we all get to see Cade play will be October 30th, against the Magic, yes?

With the info currently available, yes that would be the earliest.

However, the team has said that he will need to get a few practices in before he gets cleared to play in games. I'm assuming they mean full speed/go practices, in which he still has not gotten any in yet.

He's also not traveling with the team for the upcoming 3 game road trip, which obviously means he won't be practicing until Friday the 29th at the earliest. Not traveling also leads you to believe that he's not on the cusp of getting cleared for full go practices either.

So, I personally wouldn't be at all surprised if he misses the home game against the Magic on the 30th. Honestly, I half way expect him to.

but buy your tickets!

Better yet, don't ever plan on buying a ticket but gripe about how badly the organization has treated you!

[rmfc]

With the info currently available, yes that would be the earliest.

However, the team has said that he will need to get a few practices in before he gets cleared to play in games. I'm assuming they mean full speed/go practices, in which he still has not gotten any in yet.

He's also not traveling with the team for the upcoming 3 game road trip, which obviously means he won't be practicing until Friday the 29th at the earliest. Not traveling also leads you to believe that he's not on the cusp of getting cleared for full go practices either.

So, I personally wouldn't be at all surprised if he misses the home game against the Magic on the 30th. Honestly, I half way expect him to.

but buy your tickets!

Better yet, don't ever plan on buying a ticket but gripe about how badly the organization has treated you!

Even posters with decent posting record are going off the rails. The #1 overall pick literally ruined quite a few posters' thought process.

[Pistonrings]

It seems obvious they left the fans in the dark on the severity of this injury and imo it sucks that they did this. The fans pay the bills, no fans means no NBA, no Pistons.

And it looks pretty clear that they did this so that a bunch of people wouldn't ask for a refund after buying tickets. Notice after the game we now get what is closer to the truth. He is going to miss a month of games and maybe more, that was no small tweak of his ankle as we were led to believe.

As for being childish?. I disagree with that. The fact that fans are expressing their anger here in a proper Pistons forum makes it clear that they are WITHIN THE REALM OF BEING A SPORTS FAN.

Childish, imo, would be letting it effect your daily life. If I were laying in bed too depressed to work and my family suffers, that would be childish. That doesn't mean people shouldn't be angered (within the realm of being a sports fan) about the organization leaving the fans in the dark on the real truth of the situation. Telling us the truth and telling us a lie are not equivalent. We have a right to see one as respectful to us and one as being disrespectful.

So the childish thing is not much of a point here. I mean, we could carry that further. Anyone who even watches a game on TV is being childish since the game, in the scheme of life, has no impact of any consequence for our health and well-being.

Fans who only watch on tv are giving their time which equates to money through tv revenue to the players and organization.

It's completely reasonable to expect a sports organization to treat their fans, who pay the bills with respect and as a partner IN THE REALM OF BEING SPORTS FANS.

For me, I didn't like spending the 4 or 5 days before the opener wondering if we would get to see our number 1 pick play when it now appears the organization knew full well we wouldn't.

If they continued to treat their fans in that way in the future this could impact my decision to actually support the team by actually attending a game or buying a couple jerseys.

I have no doubt there are scientific studies of why people get so into sports showing it is completely normal for humans to do so.

So fans who are po'ed have every right to be as long as it remains in the realm of being a sports fan. This forum IS in the proper realm.

I am po'ed, but no one in the rest of my family knows anything about it, because they don't follow the NBA, so telling them would be, CHILDISH.

Refusing to work and being unable to keep the lights on over it, would be OUTSIDE the realm of being a sports fan and would be childish.

Fans being left in the dark for days and weeks wasn't necessary to do by the organization and was disrespectful to the fans, it's just that simple.

[Manocad]

Yep, it was disrespectful to the fans to a certain extent. And if you never planned on buying a ticket and going to the game but are PO'ed about that, you're childish. Especially when you know that's how teams operate sometimes. Just like if you never bought a lottery ticket and being PO'ed that they wouldn't tell you what the winning lottery numbers were. That's my opinion, I have every right to it, and my mind won't be changed.

[Canadafan]

Dear god please hurry up Cades progress everyone's losing their minds over here!

[Pistonrings]

As I pointed out, watching on TV is still giving money to the organization. Time spent watching adds is value given to those products which is passed on to the organization.

So TV watchers who are po'ed have the same reasonable stance as game goer's. If the organization loses revenue due to lowered interest in them because of disrespecting the fans that is certainly not something childish for them to be considering. Cade not playing could certainly change someone's decision to watch the game, correct? If the organization continues that behavior it would certainly effect my interest in watching them on tv, costing the NBA.

The simple act of keeping the fans in the dark was NOT NECESSARY. No way for you to say that only intending watching it on tv somehow equates the decision of either being truthful or lying to the fans. There is a difference, one is respectful and one is disrespectful. Whether you watch it on tv or not is is simply meaningless. It is not childish for any fan to prefer being told the truth rather than being strung along, and it is reasonable for that fan to express that displeasure on a forum dedicated to that team which is keeping it in the realm of being a sports fan. That fan is being reasonable, not childish.

So it is simply irrational to say a fan is being childish when that fan remains in the realm of being a sports fan and has negative feelings about the organization being disrespectful to them and that continued behavior could cost the organization money in the future.

TV watchers make the NBA money. Fans excited to watch the number 1 pick are looking forward to watching. Treat the fans like that more and it is reasonable to expect that you will lose viewers. So nope, looking at this from all angles I don't see a bit of meaning in whether someone was watching on tv or not.

[Manocad]

You're creating a strawman. I said being pissed off about it childish, not that having a preference for being told the truth is childish.

[Manocad]

Dear god please hurry up Cades progress everyone's losing their minds over here!

Hey, it's keeping things entertaining.

For me, anyway.

[whitehops]

Dear god please hurry up Cades progress everyone's losing their minds over here!

it's not just here too, the replies to rod's tweet are pretty similar to what's been going on in this thread (you have to click and view on twitter):

Read on Twitter

.

[Manocad]

Dear god please hurry up Cades progress everyone's losing their minds over here!

it's not just here too, the replies to rod's tweet are pretty similar to what's been going on in this thread (you have to click and view on twitter):

Read on Twitter

.

Oh that's just great. So not only is Cade 5'6" and fragile, but now he has a fear of flying. There goes 41 road games down the drain.

[DetroitSho]

This thread is tragic and entertaining all at once. Lol

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[Snakebites]

Him not coming back during our road trip was already telegraphed by Casey before game 1 two days ago. Bummer, but not breaking news.

Best we can hope for is the 30th.

If you’re really all that upset that the team was less than transparent about this whole affair, the only recourse is to stop supporting the team- don’t watch, don’t buy tickets or merchandise, etc.

If you don’t want to do that, then it’s really not a big deal for you. Truthfully, if you expect “respect” from the Pistons or any organization that aims for a profit that’s a pretty good way to be disappointed in life. For profit entities will largely only have the appearance of respect in situations where it will profit them to do so. Which is not to say they actively “disrespect”, more that respect doesn’t factor into it.

[Pistonrings]

You're creating a strawman. I said being pissed off about it childish, not that having a preference for being told the truth is childish.

"Pissed-off" is obviously a relative term. Displeased, disappointed, angered, the term used doesn't mean much when it is relative.

My point stands as totally rational. A fan is reasonable to be DISPLEASED, ANGERED, Disappointed that they were disrespected by the organization. When that fan expresses that anger IN A PROPER PLACE IN THE REALM OF A SPORTS FAN, there is simply nothing irrational, or childish about this.

I have clearly shown this with rational argument.

The organization is rational to care whether their fans feel comfortable with the way they are being treated by them. The fact that they make revenue from the tv watching public makes this obvious.

It is not irrational nor childish for a fan to
1. Prefer being treated respectfully as opposed to the opposite.

2, if number 1 is true, and it clearly is, then it's not irrational for the disrespected fan to feel angered and/or disappointed toward the organization. So the anger is not childish, and as long as it is expressed in the proper place, the realm of being a sports fan, then nothing about the fans reaction is irrational.

There is no other rational conclusion. You did say your mind could not be changed, meaning you don't care about following rationality, which is irrational in itself, us it not?.

Changing your mind is niether here nor there, all my intent was is to show through rational argument that there is nothing irrational about a fan preferring truth to lies, nor being angered if he receives lies, not nothing irrational as long as he expresses that anger in the proper places. The argument is air tight, opinion is not relevant. You can continue to claim otherwise but without rational argument you position, dare I say it, would appear to be childish.