Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6

Bum Adebayo · Post #1921 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:40 pm

So if I have mental issues, can I just stop working until they fix over time? will I get my salary? thanks guys!

RedSalsa · Post #1922 » by **RedSalsa** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:46 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:So if I have mental issues, can I just stop working until they fix over time? will I get my salary? thanks guys!

Anybody with an IQ above room temperature understands it’s a bull excuse just to get paid the rest the league thinks of him is soft and weak. He’s completely ruined.

Bum Adebayo · Post #1923 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:47 pm

Read on Twitter

Yeah, so when any sensible question or unconfortable situation arises, he is in a bad place mentally, instead of answering like an adult. He doesn't want to say directly to his teammates why he wants a trade, because the reason is selfish, as simple as that.
In fact, I bet he and Rich Paul thought none of this (having to talk with Sixers teammates) would need to happen again, which is why this looks so awkward right now, he really thought he would get traded quickly before training camp so none of this would happen. Too bad for him it's not only in his hands, the team can do whatever they want with him, he is still a Sixer for 4 years until team says otherwise.

KramerDSP · Post #1924 » by **KramerDSP** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:49 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:

Read on Twitter

Yeah, so when any sensible question or unconfortable situation arises, he is in a bad place mentally, instead of answering like an adult. He doesn't want to say directly to his teammates why he wants a trade, because the reason is selfish, as simple as that.

“Joel, I want a trade because I know I’ll never be the MAN here in Philadelphia.”

Murray_17 · Post #1925 » by **Murray_17** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:49 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:So if I have mental issues, can I just stop working until they fix over time? will I get my salary? thanks guys!

Sorry, but i can't believe this is a real post :lol:

NYSixersFan · Post #1926 » by **NYSixersFan** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:56 pm

You can bet this will be a big issue in the next CBA

KramerDSP · Post #1927 » by **KramerDSP** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:59 pm

Given that this game is on National Tv, is the home opener, and the team has suggested they have Simmons’ back, I keep going to this scenario:

The fans do a derogatory Simmons chant that was heard at the Flyers game the other day. Embiid angrily reacts and scowls, shushing the fans.

It’s possible they have Embiid talk to the fans tonight before the game starts asking them to be respectful and give Simmons his space, no? Gotta think they’ve at least batted that idea around.

KramerDSP · Post #1928 » by **KramerDSP** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:59 pm

NYSixersFan wrote:You can bet this will be a big issue in the next CBA

Absolutely. It’ll be the Ben Simmons clause.

KramerDSP · Post #1929 » by **KramerDSP** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:04 pm

Woj just now - tone and tenor have changed today. Simmons is asking for professional help. Sixers providing it to him. Sixers will try to get him to a place where he is ready to ply for them again. Also, Morey has not called Brooklyn once.

KramerDSP · Post #1930 » by **KramerDSP** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:06 pm

SAS: nobody in Philly is buying this but they have no choice because the mental health card has been played.

Post #1931 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:21 pm

KramerDSP wrote:Given that this game is on National Tv, is the home opener, and the team has suggested they have Simmons’ back, I keep going to this scenario:

The fans do a derogatory Simmons chant that was heard at the Flyers game the other day. Embiid angrily reacts and scowls, shushing the fans.

It’s possible they have Embiid talk to the fans tonight before the game starts asking them to be respectful and give Simmons his space, no? Gotta think they’ve at least batted that idea around.

Embiid isn't bothering with that stuff, guy has a game to win.

Kobblehead · Post #1932 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:22 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:So if I have mental issues, can I just stop working until they fix over time? will I get my salary? thanks guys!

If you pull that card, there should be a mandatory institutionalization period. Especially with all the millions at stake.

Mik317 · Post #1933 » by **Mik317** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:22 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:So if I have mental issues, can I just stop working until they fix over time? will I get my salary? thanks guys!

You don't have a players union on your side.

some places of business do have things called a mental health day as well.

But stop comparing NBA players to the average joe anyway lol. Despite being "employees" because of their talent they are closer to general CEO status lol. Your CEO can take a day or two off if he wants in some cases.

Post #1934 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:25 pm

I mean everywhere I have worked if someone said something like that they would give them a few days if not longer, doesn't happen everywhere unfortunately.

If Ben tries to make it a big thing they will make him jump through some hoops though I assume. Like I said he'll have to be assessed by independent doctors.

Murray_17 · Post #1935 » by **Murray_17** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:25 pm

Mik317 wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:So if I have mental issues, can I just stop working until they fix over time? will I get my salary? thanks guys!

You don't have a players union on your side.

some places of business do have things called a mental health day as well.

Even more basic than this: leave of absence exist.

I really can't believe anyone who has worked at least one day in his life can make a comment like that or try to be sympathetic to a situation like that if your job doesn't allow you to take time in cases like this.

It's just stupid in itself

phiphan · Post #1936 » by **phiphan** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:36 pm

Anyone who actually believes this isn’t a concoction by a high level PR firm is a ****ing rube.

eyeatoma · Post #1937 » by **eyeatoma** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:39 pm

KramerDSP wrote:Woj just now - tone and tenor have changed today. Simmons is asking for professional help. Sixers providing it to him. Sixers will try to get him to a place where he is ready to ply for them again. Also, Morey has not called Brooklyn once.

Why should he, Kyrie is worse than Ben lol.

agiaco · Post #1938 » by **agiaco** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:43 pm

I don't doubt Ben has anxiety about the entire situation for many reasons. Reconciling with teammates, gaining trust of the organization and of course the city and fans, etc. I also don't find it acceptable to potentially misuse mental health struggles as a means of not working and still collecting a paycheck. He came back because he was losing money.

Dude has multiple houses on the market. I guess we will see if any smidgen of hope for his return came out of the morning meeting, but I am still not optimistic.

theo42 · Post #1939 » by **theo42** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:46 pm

phiphan wrote:Anyone who actually believes this isn’t a concoction by a high level PR firm is a ****ing rube.

I mean...i normally would agree.

Anyone can see this guy has issues. Maybe it is just extreme immaturity or narcism but there is an issue. Always has been. He clearly was in his own head in that Hawks series. He does have a lot of people he has really disapponted, starting with his home country. They literally spent millions to build their olympic team around him and he bailed. He let the entire city down, he let the fans down, he snubbed his teamates.

It was a big step to talk to everyone today and say he had an issue, imo.

Murray_17 · Post #1940 » by **Murray_17** » Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:46 pm

phiphan wrote:Anyone who actually believes this isn’t a concoction by a high level PR firm is a ****ing rube.

Again, it doesn't matter, if is PR we're gonna eventually know. If it's real you need to acomodate for the guy.

The team can gain normalcy again by trying to be human and can unite again. Even if internally they suspect they guy is lying.