21-22 Season: Game 2 7:30pm ET 10/22/21 - 76ers vs Nets GDT

[Tomjas]

I had never taken much notice of Doc’s coaching until last year but everything I heard about him is true

He’s incredibly stubborn, doesn’t learn from his mistakes and is not a developer of young players

[mjkvol]

An awful loss, just so bad, and mostly on Rivers. So many questions - why wait so long to get Embiid back in the game? Why is Danny Green even in the game at that point? Why does Korkmaz get only 20 minutes, when the guy looks ready to break out? And for crying out loud, how on earth do you not challenge that blocking call?

Rivers is a dinosaur, stuck seeing the game as it was when he played. He has no clue about making adjustments on the fly, and is clearly a horrible game manager. He is loyal to a ridiculous extent, refusing to pull a player after three hideous air balls? And the halfcourt pass call when the entire arena saw it coming.

Finally, does this game just define Tobias Harris? Lights it up for three quarters, disappears with the money on the table. Hell, I'd rather have Maxey taking the big shots right now than anyone, he has absolutely no fear of the moment. One thing for sure, Morey has to somehow bring someone in who can create shots when it counts, or we're going to continue to see these kinds of losses, which have come to define these Sixers.

If they had a player who could simply score off the dribble or get to the free-throw line and make free throws in the clutch, none of the stuff above would even be discussed. Because they don’t have that player, they have no margin for error in the clutch against good teams, and then all the things noted above become magnified. If you have the necessary kind of talent, all of those things are hidden and compensated for.

Oh, completely agreed, but even without that player you can't lose this game. There were too many points where one more play stops the bleeding and salvages the win - the two Green air balls just can't happen, not challenging that block which gets the ball back with the lead, etc.

But you're absolutely right - with that guy it probably never gets to that point. When the valediction is finally read on the Process the lack of ever acquiring that player will end up being the defining reason for its failure.

[zaz102]

An awful loss, just so bad, and mostly on Rivers. So many questions - why wait so long to get Embiid back in the game? Why is Danny Green even in the game at that point? Why does Korkmaz get only 20 minutes, when the guy looks ready to break out? And for crying out loud, how on earth do you not challenge that blocking call?

Rivers is a dinosaur, stuck seeing the game as it was when he played. He has no clue about making adjustments on the fly, and is clearly a horrible game manager. He is loyal to a ridiculous extent, refusing to pull a player after three hideous air balls? And the halfcourt pass call when the entire arena saw it coming.

Finally, does this game just define Tobias Harris? Lights it up for three quarters, disappears with the money on the table. Hell, I'd rather have Maxey taking the big shots right now than anyone, he has absolutely no fear of the moment. One thing for sure, Morey has to somehow bring someone in who can create shots when it counts, or we're going to continue to see these kinds of losses, which have come to define these Sixers.

If they had a player who could simply score off the dribble or get to the free-throw line and make free throws in the clutch, none of the stuff above would even be discussed. Because they don’t have that player, they have no margin for error in the clutch against good teams, and then all the things noted above become magnified. If you have the necessary kind of talent, all of those things are hidden and compensated for.

Maxey can blow off any defender off the dribble. We have seen it enough to know this. Now. He can be a little off with the floater and iffy jumper. But he creates so
Much pressure on the defense when he’s penetrating.

Doc needs to trust Maxey.

This Tobias Harris dribble dribble shoot got to go.

Embiid rested way too long. Unless his knee is bothering him already.

Doc rivers should have challenged the charge on Kd. That’s the game there. What is his saving his timeout for?

I'm someone that needs a sample size, but I'll be watching to see if Green is washed. Tonight, I feel like I'd rather have Korkmaz in instead.

I do think that Embiids knees were bothering him, but who knows.

[NYSixersFan]

Green isn't washed, but he's not a starter.

[sfan]

Simmons plays sixers win that game. Simple really. Doc does not think he is any good. Clearly unable to coach his skills and mental motivation. haha

U could repeat these words every time we lose ...

And no one can prove it wrong anyway ...

But just give me any 30 million dollars level star player I bet we could most likely win this game anyway …

fair enough agree hard to prove either way. What i dont get is that the job of the coach is to actually coach and mentor and players come in all ranges of mindsets. If Ben "yips" were developing what strategies were implemented last season or even years before that? Curious what role the sixers Sports Psychologists have played in his mindgames.

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[Mik317]

lol Dwert

[ankle420breaker]

Game 2. #firedoc

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[phillynative]

As well as Seth and Tobi played you don't want them trying to create shots and that's what started to happen. I just don't understand why Embiid wasn't in the post more to create doubles.

Embiid in the post in the last 2mins of a game is a very bad idea without premium half-court guard play. Teams don’t give Embiid that it’ll be a quick force into a pass to a non creator/turnover. We’re just not threatening when push comes to shove.

Not just the last 2 mins but throughout the game. He never got any deep catches in the paint. Which means he gave the Nets defense a pass. Maybe Embiid could of gotten LMA in foul trouble that way we wouldnt have to watch him knock down set shots in every players face all game long way.

KD obviously was going to get every shot he wanted , the way to counter the Nets runs was to get Embiid in the post where he's unguardable one on one.

[UptownPhilly]

Green isn't washed, but he's not a starter.

This. If he and Curry were moved to the bench, and we upgraded their starting spots in a big way, we’d be a vastly better team.

[phillynative]

Yeah ya right... Maxey did much better.

Honestly, why are you here? You don't like Ben anymore, you don't like the team? Are you just here to gloat when the Sixers lose?

You are right.. I don't like Ben. I also don't like Doc or Embiid... and whilst I hate Ben I think the pile on by the fans and the way the club has hung him out to dry and treated him... means I've lost my love of this team as well.

So Schadenfreude is why I am here.... and to tell everyone I was right about Embiid never bringing anyone a championship if he has the ball in his hand in the last quarter like he wants... and that woke Doc is a proven loser.

PS: I guess Ben was to blame for Joel jacking up those 5 threes this game.... you know.. .clogging his space up and all

Awww Sounds like your hurting .You know you can dislike someone and still love them. Is that why your here? not being able to understand strange emotions can be hard.

[phillynative]

U don't take quick three with a lead into last three minutes let alone airball threes. We lose because we have a guy who is too dumb to know what he should do on the court plain and simple.

Lol who?

[Ferry Avenue]

An awful loss, just so bad, and mostly on Rivers. So many questions - why wait so long to get Embiid back in the game? Why is Danny Green even in the game at that point? Why does Korkmaz get only 20 minutes, when the guy looks ready to break out? And for crying out loud, how on earth do you not challenge that blocking call?

Rivers is a dinosaur, stuck seeing the game as it was when he played. He has no clue about making adjustments on the fly, and is clearly a horrible game manager. He is loyal to a ridiculous extent, refusing to pull a player after three hideous air balls? And the halfcourt pass call when the entire arena saw it coming.

Finally, does this game just define Tobias Harris? Lights it up for three quarters, disappears with the money on the table. Hell, I'd rather have Maxey taking the big shots right now than anyone, he has absolutely no fear of the moment. One thing for sure, Morey has to somehow bring someone in who can create shots when it counts, or we're going to continue to see these kinds of losses, which have come to define these Sixers.

If they had a player who could simply score off the dribble or get to the free-throw line and make free throws in the clutch, none of the stuff above would even be discussed. Because they don’t have that player, they have no margin for error in the clutch against good teams, and then all the things noted above become magnified. If you have the necessary kind of talent, all of those things are hidden and compensated for.

Maxey can blow off any defender off the dribble. We have seen it enough to know this. Now. He can be a little off with the floater and iffy jumper. But he creates so
Much pressure on the defense when he’s penetrating.

Doc needs to trust Maxey.

This Tobias Harris dribble dribble shoot got to go.

Embiid rested way too long. Unless his knee is bothering him already.

Doc rivers should have challenged the charge on Kd. That’s the game there. What is his saving his timeout for?

Both Maxey and Harris have too much trouble finishing at the rim in my opinion, and they don’t draw fouls on the way there.

The biggest mistake of “the process” was finally landing a closer in Jimmy Butler and not doing what it took to keep him. The organization thought Ben Simmons could develop into that role and boy was it wrong. Jimmy Butler wins that game tonight easily. You simply hand him the ball in the clutch and let him go to work.

[Mik317]

Post ups in the clutch can work. The problem is that our other option....is also post ups in the clutch basically with Tobias.

Again the best this Embiid era teams have been in the clutch was with Jimmy...and to a much lesser extent TJ lol. Simply far more options available when dribbling from the 3 with a threat of taking a 3 yourself than throw it down in the post and hope you can make a tough contested jumper or layup. Like Dirk was the GOAT shooting big and while his run was legendary that chip year...that win was more about Bron imploding than anything. Again Giannis was awesome but the Bucks also relied on Middleton hitting tough shots and Jrue getting Giannis easy shots. This is not a diss nor does it mean Embiid is a bum who sucks...its just the nature of the game really. Ideally Maxey grows into that or Tobias starts taking less of those useless floaters or Morey stops trying to be Mr. Big Balls are actually get us another ballhandler...who knows but I don't know why people are shocked that the team still has the same flaws tho.

Doc sucks balls tho and lost us this one with his decisions tho. So it goes 70% Doc. 20% Biid. 10%Morey in terms of blame game...but it is also game 2

[Ferry Avenue]

Post ups in the clutch can work. The problem is that our other option....is also post ups in the clutch basically with Tobias.

Again the best this Embiid era teams have been in the clutch was with Jimmy...and to a much lesser extent TJ lol. Simply far more options available when dribbling from the 3 with a threat of taking a 3 yourself than throw it down in the post and hope you can make a tough contested jumper or layup. Like Dirk was the GOAT shooting big and while his run was legendary that chip year...that win was more about Bron imploding than anything. Again Giannis was awesome but the Bucks also relied on Middleton hitting tough shots and Jrue getting Giannis easy shots. This is not a diss nor does it mean Embiid is a bum who sucks...its just the nature of the game really. Ideally Maxey grows into that or Tobias starts taking less of those useless floaters or Morey stops trying to be Mr. Big Balls are actually get us another ballhandler...who knows but I don't know why people are shocked that the team still has the same flaws tho.

Doc sucks balls tho and lost us this one with his decisions tho. So it goes 70% Doc. 20% Biid. 10%Morey in terms of blame game...but it is also game 2

Post-ups in the clutch are doubled immediately, and the response to the double is too inconsistent for it to be a reliable way of scoring. You need to be able to hand the ball to somebody at the top of the three-point line, where he can’t be doubled, and let him go to work to break down his defender and collapse the defense.

A post-up in the clutch is the equivalent of handing the ball to a running back for a 4 yard gain when you need a 10 yard pass for a first down.

[mjkvol]

Both Maxey and Harris have too much trouble finishing at the rim in my opinion, and they don’t draw fouls on the way there.

That's who Harris is as a player, always was and always will be. I'd like to wait and see before painting Maxey with the same brush - he's a kid and just starting to learn how to play.

[Ferry Avenue]

Both Maxey and Harris have too much trouble finishing at the rim in my opinion, and they don’t draw fouls on the way there.

That's who Harris is as a player, always was and always will be. I'd like to wait and see before painting Maxey with the same brush - he's a kid and just starting to learn how to play.

Maxey may indeed develop, but he has a long way to go if he’s going to be the guy you hand the ball to in the clutch of game seven of a playoff series beyond the first round.

[mjkvol]

This also - Embiid is still way too sloppy with the ball in dealing with doubles, and he dribbles into trouble far too often for a player of his level. I guess those are things you just accept as part of the package, but it's a big reason why he has no business handling the ball anywhere but the post down the stretch.

[NYSixersFan]

We should have kept Monty Williams

[mjkvol]

Both Maxey and Harris have too much trouble finishing at the rim in my opinion, and they don’t draw fouls on the way there.

That's who Harris is as a player, always was and always will be. I'd like to wait and see before painting Maxey with the same brush - he's a kid and just starting to learn how to play.

Maxey may indeed develop, but he has a long way to go if he’s going to be the guy you hand the ball to in the clutch of game seven of a playoff series beyond the first round.

No doubt, but I see no one else on this roster who can be that guy, which is kind of what we've been saying all along.