RS 21/22 - Mavs @ Raptors (Sat. 7:30PM EST)

Archx · Post #81 » by **Archx** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:27 am

This is why Timmy gets paid .. and KP is still a bum.

Bob8 · Post #82 » by **Bob8** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:33 am

Btw, didn't Mavs get some good reinforcements?

Maverick41 · Post #83 » by **Maverick41** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:37 am

Going back to heliocentric Luka ball really turned the game around. Good showing. Let's close this out!

Mr B · Post #84 » by **Mr B** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:42 am

Maverick41 wrote:Going back to heliocentric Luka ball really turned the game around. Good showing. Let's close this out!

They do play a lot better when they allow Luka to just run the offense instead of trying to force a system or run a set play.

Bob8 · Post #85 » by **Bob8** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:42 am

Bob8 wrote:First experiment is over, now Mavs has to quit the other too, KP taking so many shots with his awful efficiency.

I see Kidd agree, KP on the bench in crucial minutes.

ejs78 · Post #86 » by **ejs78** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:43 am

Not a pretty win but I'll take it.

I need to see more of Bullock and Brown.

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XTraderXL · Post #87 » by **XTraderXL** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:43 am

Mr B wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:Going back to heliocentric Luka ball really turned the game around. Good showing. Let's close this out!

They do play a lot better when they allow Luka to just run the offense instead of trying to force a system or run a set play.

Hm, who would have thought? :lol:

Mr B · Post #88 » by **Mr B** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:44 am

Bob8 wrote:
Bob8 wrote:First experiment is over, now Mavs has to quit the other too, KP taking so many shots with his awful efficiency.

I see Kidd agree, KP on the bench in crucial minutes.

It’s not like KP isn’t being given a chance to play the way he like and run the kind of plays he likes to run.

ejs78 · Post #89 » by **ejs78** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:46 am

ejs78 wrote:Not a pretty win but I'll take it.

I need to see more of Bullock and Brown.

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Crap I forgot who this was in terms of closing games out.

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leolozon · Post #90 » by **leolozon** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:47 am

Doncic shot selection is really bad in this quarter. Plus the way he slept on defense against Barnes was shameful.

THJ saved the game (and Luka in the 3rd) and it's a win!!! Nice half. Still, there's work to do.

ejs78 · Post #91 » by **ejs78** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:54 am

Get those stats KP lol

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Bob8 · Post #92 » by **Bob8** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:59 am

Important win and even more important Kidd did right corrections after disastrous start.

Bad thing, Mavs are counting on exactly the same players as last year.

KP should stop dreaming about being great scorer and concentrate on D.

Archx · Post #93 » by **Archx** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:00 am

Luka centric offense in the 2nd half provided much better result plus Timmy being his 2nd option instad of KP. Also, great defense. Finally some positive signs. But it's the Raptors, we're still far away from seing how good this team can really be. Kidd made some nice adjustments in the 2nd half.

Maverick41 · Post #94 » by **Maverick41** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:03 am

Bob8 wrote:Important win and even more important Kidd did right corrections after disastrous start.

Bad thing, Mavs are counting on exactly the same players as last year.

Agreed. Was good to see Kidd adjust and not force his game plan which clearly wasn't working again.

But yeah agreed with the fact that we're practically relying on the same players. Our 2 key pickups didn't play or contribute much. I have faith Bullock in particular will be a good role player but can't pretend that it's not concerning.

Darren · Post #95 » by **Darren** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:04 am

Could Luka stops taking ill-adviced contested fadeaway 3 and KP stops playing with back to the basket? That's source of inefficiency. The Mavs is just lucky catching Raptors on back-to-back status and outrebounding them and cause foul troubles here and there. But the Mavs is not playing like a playoff team. How many times the Mavs get blowed by in the game? You count it. The frontcourt rim protection is weak while the perimeter defense is also lacking effort and energy. Together ill-adviced shots from key player, these are not good combination to win against elite teams.

The only good sign is Toronto seems to welcome Powell a lot. I expect a Powell for Dragic trade goes down at some point. That's the only great thing I see from the game. I wonder what fillers or assets are needed to reach a deal ,though.

Mr B · Post #96 » by **Mr B** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:07 am

XTraderXL wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Maverick41 wrote:Going back to heliocentric Luka ball really turned the game around. Good showing. Let's close this out!

They do play a lot better when they allow Luka to just run the offense instead of trying to force a system or run a set play.

Hm, who would have thought?

It’s good they’re seeing this now and being willing to adjust. It would be huge red flags if Kidd was continuing to try to force a round peg into a square hole.

Darren · Post #97 » by **Darren** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:09 am

I think the Mavs should start Boban and play a slow tempo game for tip while playing uptempo style with bench after the Dwight Powell trade. For the time being, maybe still the Mavs need a showcase to Powell or possibly KP. KP's not a threat with back to basket like Dirk. Maybe KP's more a plus moving without the ball and gets transition buckets like the preseason games. I also don't like the way the Mavs blocking out. Being tall against a small ball team, giving up offensive board easily is unacceptable. If there's no advantages at all, why should the team going big at all?

Bob8 · Post #98 » by **Bob8** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:10 am

Darren wrote:Could Luka stops taking ill-adviced contested fadeaway 3 and KP stops playing with back to the basket? That's source of inefficiency. The Mavs is just lucky catching Raptors on back-to-back status and outrebounding them and cause foul troubles here and there. But the Mavs is not playing like a playoff team. How many times the Mavs get blowed by in the game? You count it. The frontcourt rim protection is weak while the perimeter defense is also lacking effort and energy. Together ill-adviced shots from key player, these are not good combination to win against elite teams.

The only good sign is Toronto seems to welcome Powell a lot. I expect a Powell for Dragic trade goes down at some point. That's the only great thing I see from the game. I wonder what fillers or assets are needed to reach a deal ,though.

Ill advised or not. Luka and THJ are the only reason Mavs have won. But I agree, Mavs roster is just incredible bad.

Now I will get killed by optimists.

Darren · Post #99 » by **Darren** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:13 am

Luka is 2-9 from 3 point lineup. On top of that, most of them are contested fadeaway 3 with a hand on Luka's face.

Darren · Post #100 » by **Darren** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:13 am

I should say it is actually DFS and TH putting the Mavs on position to win. DFS's 4 offensive boards come from the time the team struggling everywhere. And then, the rebounding edge let the Mavs climb up from a deep hole. And DFS's defense on FVV is also steady. Hardaway's 7 threes as well as steady defense is also another big contribution to win. KP's activity on defensive end and the energy shown is also a good sign. Not so good to try to position up without clearing space to shoot. KP's skinny while Dirk's stronger. That's a big difference in post-up situation. Luka's just not in good spirit afterall. Maybe because Luka has to take on coaching duty with an absence of coaching presence. But taking ill-adviced long threes that results in a lot of fastbreaks is not something you want against a young team.