General Blue Jays Thread

GoRapstheoriginal · Post #1501 » by **GoRapstheoriginal** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:06 am

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polo007 · Post #1502 » by **polo007** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:58 pm

2021 MLB general manager ratings: The American League East - Call to the Pen

Ross Atkins, general manager, Toronto Blue Jays

+14.7 WAA

Atkins’ Blue Jays came up one game short of qualifying for a shot at an MLB postseason spot. But that shortfall should not obscure the job Atkins did this past year in boosting his Jays into contention.

The Jays’ front office boss made 52 player personnel moves that affected the Major League roster since the conclusion of the 2020 season. An impressive 28 of those moves – that’s 58 percent – improved the team.

And several of Atkins’ moves hit big. He signed free agent shortstop Marcus Semien to a bargain-basement one-year, $18 million deal and was rewarded when Semien delivered 45 home runs, 102 RBIs, and a 4.9 WAA.

The more heralded signing of free agent outfielder George Springer did not generate the same value, largely because injuries limited Springer to a half season. But he did hit 22 home runs, drive in 50 runs and generate 1.4 WAA in that time.

Atkins promoted pitcher Alek Manoah from the farm system and Manoah went 9-2 with a3.22 ERA in 20 starts. That was worth another 1.8 WAA.

Atkins not only knew who to sign or promote, he also displayed a keen eye for whom to dump. He traded away, sold, or released 13 players who produced value for another major league team in 2021. In none of those 13 cases did the player’s value to his new team turn out to be positive.

The sum total of Atkins’ contributions to the Jays’ season amounted to +14.7 WAA. That’s far and away the largest contribution by a GM to team success this season.

Parataxis · Post #1503 » by **Parataxis** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:18 pm

polo007 wrote:Atkins not only knew who to sign or promote, he also displayed a keen eye for whom to dump. He traded away, sold, or released 13 players who produced value for another major league team in 2021. In none of those 13 cases did the player’s value to his new team turn out to be positive.

The sum total of Atkins’ contributions to the Jays’ season amounted to +14.7 WAA. That’s far and away the largest contribution by a GM to team success this season.

This surprised me, and my first thought was Tellez, who seemed to get off to a hot start when he moved to the Brewers.

Turns out, he had a positive WAR, but a negative WAA.

bluerap23 · Post #1504 » by **bluerap23** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:13 pm

Parataxis wrote:
polo007 wrote:The sum total of Atkins’ contributions to the Jays’ season amounted to +14.7 WAA. That’s far and away the largest contribution by a GM to team success this season.

This surprised me, and my first thought was Tellez, who seemed to get off to a hot start when he moved to the Brewers.

Turns out, he had a positive WAR, but a negative WAA.

Now just imagine if he had a manager that didn't tip the scale in the opposite direction.

polo007 · Post #1505 » by **polo007** » Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:08 pm

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polo007 · Post #1507 » by **polo007** » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:17 am

Alejandro Kirk had a good season with @losazulejos

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xAIRNESSx · Post #1508 » by **xAIRNESSx** » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:49 am

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polo007 · Post #1509 » by **polo007** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:24 am

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Post #1511 » by **Schad** » Thu Mar 3, 2022 6:47 am

Dorktown, Jon Bois' vehicle for incredibly exhaustive videos on some niche sports thing, has turned his attention to Dave Stieb (and his pursuit of a no-hitter):

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Fairview4Life · Post #1512 » by **Fairview4Life** » Thu Mar 3, 2022 2:18 pm

OMG part 1 of 4 lol.

Post #1513 » by **Schad** » Thu Mar 3, 2022 7:26 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:OMG part 1 of 4 lol.

The man did a two-hour video (split into two parts) about how there aren't many baseball players named Bob anymore. Three hours on Dave Stieb is comparatively pretty sparse.

SharoneWright · Post #1514 » by **SharoneWright** » Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:17 pm

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Ok then. I'm no longer worried about Vlad's contract.

Post #1515 » by **Cyrus** » Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:32 pm

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Ok then. I'm no longer worried about Vlad's contract.

Why? Larry doesn't own the Jays, unless that other partner is Rogers?

SharoneWright · Post #1516 » by **SharoneWright** » Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:34 pm

Cyrus wrote:
SharoneWright wrote:

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Ok then. I'm no longer worried about Vlad's contract.

Why? Larry doesn't own the Jays, unless that other partner is Rogers?

I think that's the implication. Anyway, could be wrong... and I'll always worry about Vlad's contract! lol

Post #1517 » by **Schad** » Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:55 pm

I'd be surprised if Rogers was the partner. CFC is going to cost in excess of $3b CDN, and I can't see them shelling that out.

However, there is another former Larry T partner with a bunch of assets in the UK already: the OTPP. That'd be my guess.

Parataxis · Post #1518 » by **Parataxis** » Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:47 pm

Schad wrote:I'd be surprised if Rogers was the partner. CFC is going to cost in excess of $3b CDN, and I can't see them shelling that out.

However, there is another former Larry T partner with a bunch of assets in the UK already: the OTPP. That'd be my guess.

That's reasonable, actually. All of the benefits of owning a sports team, but none of the PR drawbacks of owning a mediocre one in your local market.

polo007 · Post #1519 » by **polo007** » Tue Mar 22, 2022 9:47 pm

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