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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#81 » by anotherhomer » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:06 pm

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Ujiri’s relationship with key MLSE board members, notably Tanenbaum, Dale Lastman and Bell CEO Mirko Bibic, in the end made him really feel comfy sufficient to return to the Raptors because the staff’s vice-chairman and president, the NBA supply stated.


What does that have to do with politics? Tanenbaum tried to save BC's job, too. And George Cope tried to save Casey's job. None of it is political, it's just allies and foes. This was Ed Rogers' attempt to enrich his company knowing that Bell/Larry T were thirsty to bring back Ujiri. Ujiri is just a pawn in this game. The article states the situation pretty clearly to me.


they not the best guys, but they had good intentions
in George's defense, this happened because BC was meddling a lot, prompting George to step in
but George may had put too much trust in Casey....

at least Tanenbaum came to realize how important Ujiri was, and fought for him
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#82 » by Duffman100 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:07 pm

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Same, just switched to Telus recently.


Oh I have some good friends who quit Rogers and went to Telus, how are you finding it?


Mostly switched because my buddy is a manager there and got me a sweet phone plan, but so far it also seems like I’m *maybe* getting slightly better reception around town (Vancouver) than with Rogers


Ohhhhhh I thought you WORKED at Rogers. Got it.. still good to know.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

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Oh I have some good friends who quit Rogers and went to Telus, how are you finding it?


Mostly switched because my buddy is a manager there and got me a sweet phone plan, but so far it also seems like I’m *maybe* getting slightly better reception around town (Vancouver) than with Rogers


Ohhhhhh I thought you WORKED at Rogers. Got it.. still good to know.


Oops, totally misread your original post. Hope you’re in a better working place now after moving on from Rogers.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#84 » by Duffman100 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:11 pm

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Mostly switched because my buddy is a manager there and got me a sweet phone plan, but so far it also seems like I’m *maybe* getting slightly better reception around town (Vancouver) than with Rogers


Ohhhhhh I thought you WORKED at Rogers. Got it.. still good to know.


Oops, totally misread your original post. Hope you’re in a better working place now after moving on from Rogers.


Thanks. I was on the Media (Sportsnet) side of things.

Some really really good and talented people still there.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#85 » by C Court » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:11 pm

For those who can't see the article, these are the key parts of the story:

After weeks of negotiations that began in mid-July, both MLSE chair Tanenbaum and Bell were on board with offering Ujiri a sweetened package that included incentive pay tied to a future increase in value of the Raptors — he had already added $500 million in value to the franchise since his arrival in 2013, taken the team to the playoffs in every year prior to the pandemic and won the NBA championship in 2019.

Other sports franchises from around the world were chasing Ujiri, according to an NBA source. One NBA team’s offer included a three-per-cent ownership stake along with a salary that eclipsed the $15 million per year deal he ultimately struck with MLSE. Teams in the English Premier League — soccer’s top domestic league — also made entreaties to Ujiri, an NBA Executive of the Year winner.

Tanenbaum and Bell were ready to lock Ujiri down, but, according to two sources close to the MLSE board, Edward Rogers was the holdout.

He told his partners he felt the compensation was too high, and, according to the MLSE sources and a source close to the NBA, Rogers was convinced the Raptors could be managed without Ujiri’s help by existing general manager Bobby Webster.

The increasingly tense situation came to a head during a late July meeting at Rogers’s Lake Rosseau cottage that cemented the executive’s antagonism toward the Raptors president.

Ujiri left the meeting feeling positive but Rogers told Tanenbaum it was one of the worst meetings he had ever had, according to MLSE sources. Rogers said the Raptors president was arrogant, according to sources, arriving with bodyguards, and that he failed to share his vision for the team.

The NBA source said Ujiri was caught off guard by that interpretation of the meeting, which he said had been amicable. The source also disputed that Ujiri brought bodyguards, saying the Raptors head had gone to Muskoka with his long-time driver so he could work in the car during the drive, as well as the videographer for a charitable project, who was tagging along as they were heading back to the airport after.

The sources said some time after the meeting, Rogers called Ujiri and told him he wasn’t worth the money he was being paid. The NBA source said the call left Ujiri feeling so angry and disrespected by Rogers that he considered taking a year off as president of the Raptors.

Others in the Maple Leaf Sports executive ranks went into damage-control mode, the two sources close to MLSE said, prompting a round of further calls to Ujiri to reassure him he would be protected from Rogers and urging him to ignore the comments.

Ujiri’s relationship with key MLSE board members, notably Tanenbaum, Dale Lastman and Bell CEO Mirko Bibic, ultimately made him feel comfortable enough to return to the Raptors as the team’s vice-chairman and president, the NBA source said.

Meanwhile, Rogers had been holding out on agreeing to the contract and said he would only back down if 12 conditions were met. Eleven of the conditions concerned contractual issues such as the terms of incentive-based pay, but the 12th had nothing to do with Ujiri’s compensation.

The MLSE sources said Rogers wanted Bell and Tanenbaum to agree to a complex and potentially contentious plan that would see Rogers Communications take its 37.5-per-cent stake in MLSE (which owns the Raptors, Toronto Maple Leafs, Argos, Toronto FC and other teams), and combine it with the Toronto Blue Jays to create a separate company.



Bell and Tanenbaum would not agree to Edward Rogers’s demands, which would have involved signing off on a complex set of team valuations and issues around control and broadcast rights.

But they still had a way out. Tanenbaum is governor of the Raptors, a position that gives him ultimate power to make a call on personnel issues at the team, a structure designed by the NBA to avoid stalemates between noncontrolling owners of teams. The sources said Tanenbaum preferred to reach compromises with his partners, but in this case, he decided to overrule Rogers and sign Ujiri.

Rogers was furious, the sources said, and he and Staffieri tried to plead their case with NBA commissioner Adam Silver and the league’s general counsel Rick Buchanan. The two NBA officials told Rogers that Tanenbaum had the right to make a call on the contract, according to the sources.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#86 » by MixxSRC » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:15 pm

this is like a hit piece goddamn lol
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Post#87 » by JB7 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:16 pm

Boardbreaker wrote:Given all this I’m surprised Masai even wanted to come back. Super thankful that he did.


Just makes you wonder how much of this type of racist **** is going on at the ownership level, because he easily could have left for a better spot, if there was one out there, but maybe the other options all had similar issues as well?

I wonder how many of these owners are Trump backers.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#88 » by anotherhomer » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:16 pm

I don't know if you 'Centre Court' but what are your thoughts on this....


C Court wrote:For those who can't see the article, these are the key parts of the story:

After weeks of negotiations that began in mid-July, both MLSE chair Tanenbaum and Bell were on board with offering Ujiri a sweetened package that included incentive pay tied to a future increase in value of the Raptors — he had already added $500 million in value to the franchise since his arrival in 2013, taken the team to the playoffs in every year prior to the pandemic and won the NBA championship in 2019.

Other sports franchises from around the world were chasing Ujiri, according to an NBA source. One NBA team’s offer included a three-per-cent ownership stake along with a salary that eclipsed the $15 million per year deal he ultimately struck with MLSE. Teams in the English Premier League — soccer’s top domestic league — also made entreaties to Ujiri, an NBA Executive of the Year winner.

Tanenbaum and Bell were ready to lock Ujiri down, but, according to two sources close to the MLSE board, Edward Rogers was the holdout.

He told his partners he felt the compensation was too high, and, according to the MLSE sources and a source close to the NBA, Rogers was convinced the Raptors could be managed without Ujiri’s help by existing general manager Bobby Webster.

The increasingly tense situation came to a head during a late July meeting at Rogers’s Lake Rosseau cottage that cemented the executive’s antagonism toward the Raptors president.

Ujiri left the meeting feeling positive but Rogers told Tanenbaum it was one of the worst meetings he had ever had, according to MLSE sources. Rogers said the Raptors president was arrogant, according to sources, arriving with bodyguards, and that he failed to share his vision for the team.

The NBA source said Ujiri was caught off guard by that interpretation of the meeting, which he said had been amicable. The source also disputed that Ujiri brought bodyguards, saying the Raptors head had gone to Muskoka with his long-time driver so he could work in the car during the drive, as well as the videographer for a charitable project, who was tagging along as they were heading back to the airport after.

The sources said some time after the meeting, Rogers called Ujiri and told him he wasn’t worth the money he was being paid. The NBA source said the call left Ujiri feeling so angry and disrespected by Rogers that he considered taking a year off as president of the Raptors.

Others in the Maple Leaf Sports executive ranks went into damage-control mode, the two sources close to MLSE said, prompting a round of further calls to Ujiri to reassure him he would be protected from Rogers and urging him to ignore the comments.

Ujiri’s relationship with key MLSE board members, notably Tanenbaum, Dale Lastman and Bell CEO Mirko Bibic, ultimately made him feel comfortable enough to return to the Raptors as the team’s vice-chairman and president, the NBA source said.

Meanwhile, Rogers had been holding out on agreeing to the contract and said he would only back down if 12 conditions were met. Eleven of the conditions concerned contractual issues such as the terms of incentive-based pay, but the 12th had nothing to do with Ujiri’s compensation.

The MLSE sources said Rogers wanted Bell and Tanenbaum to agree to a complex and potentially contentious plan that would see Rogers Communications take its 37.5-per-cent stake in MLSE (which owns the Raptors, Toronto Maple Leafs, Argos, Toronto FC and other teams), and combine it with the Toronto Blue Jays to create a separate company.



Bell and Tanenbaum would not agree to Edward Rogers’s demands, which would have involved signing off on a complex set of team valuations and issues around control and broadcast rights.

But they still had a way out. Tanenbaum is governor of the Raptors, a position that gives him ultimate power to make a call on personnel issues at the team, a structure designed by the NBA to avoid stalemates between noncontrolling owners of teams. The sources said Tanenbaum preferred to reach compromises with his partners, but in this case, he decided to overrule Rogers and sign Ujiri.

Rogers was furious, the sources said, and he and Staffieri tried to plead their case with NBA commissioner Adam Silver and the league’s general counsel Rick Buchanan. The two NBA officials told Rogers that Tanenbaum had the right to make a call on the contract, according to the sources.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#89 » by Duffman100 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:19 pm

MixxSRC wrote:this is like a hit piece goddamn lol


Smart though. What does this city love? Masai.

Pit Ed Rogers up against Masai, get the public angry, watch people threaten to leaves Rogers. Stakeholders, board member (even Ed's board) can't stand behind that loss of revenue.

Ed is forced to take a backseat for a period of time. That backseat allows his family to get further entrenched and make it harder for him to come back.
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Post#90 » by Bruin » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:21 pm

All my homies hate Edward Rogers
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Post#91 » by Lord_Zedd » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:24 pm

MixxSRC wrote:this is like a hit piece goddamn lol


It's been a well-coordinated attack ever since Ed Rogers got caught trying to get rid of Joe Natale lol.

At first nobody had a horse in this race, but then Ed Rogers own sister started to spice things up. Then comes Ed Rogers trying to get rid of Masai.
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Post#92 » by lolwut » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:24 pm

This has to be a sponsored hit piece from Bell or Larry T.
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Post#93 » by Jcity08 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:24 pm

C Court wrote:For those who can't see the article, these are the key parts of the story:

After weeks of negotiations that began in mid-July, both MLSE chair Tanenbaum and Bell were on board with offering Ujiri a sweetened package that included incentive pay tied to a future increase in value of the Raptors — he had already added $500 million in value to the franchise since his arrival in 2013, taken the team to the playoffs in every year prior to the pandemic and won the NBA championship in 2019.

Other sports franchises from around the world were chasing Ujiri, according to an NBA source. One NBA team’s offer included a three-per-cent ownership stake along with a salary that eclipsed the $15 million per year deal he ultimately struck with MLSE. Teams in the English Premier League — soccer’s top domestic league — also made entreaties to Ujiri, an NBA Executive of the Year winner.

Tanenbaum and Bell were ready to lock Ujiri down, but, according to two sources close to the MLSE board, Edward Rogers was the holdout.

He told his partners he felt the compensation was too high, and, according to the MLSE sources and a source close to the NBA, Rogers was convinced the Raptors could be managed without Ujiri’s help by existing general manager Bobby Webster.

The increasingly tense situation came to a head during a late July meeting at Rogers’s Lake Rosseau cottage that cemented the executive’s antagonism toward the Raptors president.

Ujiri left the meeting feeling positive but Rogers told Tanenbaum it was one of the worst meetings he had ever had, according to MLSE sources. Rogers said the Raptors president was arrogant, according to sources, arriving with bodyguards, and that he failed to share his vision for the team.

The NBA source said Ujiri was caught off guard by that interpretation of the meeting, which he said had been amicable. The source also disputed that Ujiri brought bodyguards, saying the Raptors head had gone to Muskoka with his long-time driver so he could work in the car during the drive, as well as the videographer for a charitable project, who was tagging along as they were heading back to the airport after.

The sources said some time after the meeting, Rogers called Ujiri and told him he wasn’t worth the money he was being paid.
The NBA source said the call left Ujiri feeling so angry and disrespected by Rogers that he considered taking a year off as president of the Raptors.

Others in the Maple Leaf Sports executive ranks went into damage-control mode, the two sources close to MLSE said, prompting a round of further calls to Ujiri to reassure him he would be protected from Rogers and urging him to ignore the comments.

Ujiri’s relationship with key MLSE board members, notably Tanenbaum, Dale Lastman and Bell CEO Mirko Bibic, ultimately made him feel comfortable enough to return to the Raptors as the team’s vice-chairman and president, the NBA source said.

Meanwhile, Rogers had been holding out on agreeing to the contract and said he would only back down if 12 conditions were met. Eleven of the conditions concerned contractual issues such as the terms of incentive-based pay, but the 12th had nothing to do with Ujiri’s compensation.

The MLSE sources said Rogers wanted Bell and Tanenbaum to agree to a complex and potentially contentious plan that would see Rogers Communications take its 37.5-per-cent stake in MLSE (which owns the Raptors, Toronto Maple Leafs, Argos, Toronto FC and other teams), and combine it with the Toronto Blue Jays to create a separate company.



Bell and Tanenbaum would not agree to Edward Rogers’s demands, which would have involved signing off on a complex set of team valuations and issues around control and broadcast rights.

But they still had a way out. Tanenbaum is governor of the Raptors, a position that gives him ultimate power to make a call on personnel issues at the team, a structure designed by the NBA to avoid stalemates between noncontrolling owners of teams. The sources said Tanenbaum preferred to reach compromises with his partners, but in this case, he decided to overrule Rogers and sign Ujiri.

Rogers was furious, the sources said, and he and Staffieri tried to plead their case with NBA commissioner Adam Silver and the league’s general counsel Rick Buchanan. The two NBA officials told Rogers that Tanenbaum had the right to make a call on the contract, according to the sources.


Im not a physically violent man but reading this makes me want to punch my fist through drywall with a photo of Ed Rogers glued to it.

**** this ****. :banghead:
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Post#94 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:25 pm

Reading again.

What a peice of **** this fat moron is

So happy LArry had the balls and step up and lay the hammer using his governor power.

Ed Putz got what he deserved. Now out on both Boards (Rogers and MLSE)
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Post#95 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:27 pm

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Post#96 » by Duffman100 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:28 pm

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Post#97 » by KO7 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:29 pm

Reading that section about Rogers accusing Masai of bringing bodyguards to the Muskoka meeting, seems like Rogers has tendencies akin to the rent-a-cop that had that ridiculous situation with Masai after Game 6.

Dang, long live Mr. Tanenbaum indeed. Hope there’s a solid contingency plan for when he needs to step down.
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Post#98 » by NotMyKawhi » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:33 pm

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NotMyKawhi wrote:From a fans perspective knowing there's no cap on how much you can pay management?

This is a billionaire complaining abt paying someone who brought a championship here a couple more million lol Doesn't make rogers looks good

The guy is a friend of Donald Trump...money is probably not the main motivator for a guy like this. He may not have liked the idea of a black executive moving up in the company.


listen, you guys on the left are really dumb and imo don't really have any friends who are actually black.

The Left is more racist than the right. Before Trump was president lots of black ppl loved him. Whoever happens to run for president on the right? Is racist no matter in societies eyes, that's just how it is


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Post#99 » by Double Bubble » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:35 pm

And we wonder why there’s so few blacks in league front offices. Ed Rodgers is a blood sucking zombie, where’s the double barrelled when u need it
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Post#100 » by ItsDanger » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:35 pm

https://financialpost.com/telecom/rogers-defeats-family-attempt-to-limit-his-voting-power-at-cable-firm

This is about RCI, not Raptors or Masai. Don't be a pawn. Ed wants control of Rogers board back so using his position with family trust is a way of doing it.
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