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Re: RS 21/22 - Mavs @ Raptors (Sat. 7:30PM EST) 

Post#181 » by Mr B » Sun Oct 24, 2021 6:47 pm

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arkuo wrote:The complaints about Luka stem from post season play. He can put on a clinic during the regular season with 50 pts, 50 ast and 50 rebounds per game. But its in the palyoffs when teams go small and put a longer guy on Luka which they go 6 or 7 games in a series. You cant pull off the same tricks for 6 or 7 games. Playoff teams adjust. It's the same movie running on it's 3rd year now. Heliocentric basketball does not work in the playoffs. But it does produce great fantasy numbers for the regular season.


Huh? Produced great fantasy numbers for the regular season? Isn't Luka had almost a triple double in the playoffs? :roll:

Isn't you the one who said that Luka should stop being a ballhog? You couldn't even come up a resolution with this current line up because you know that this team is not good enough. But hey it's still Luka's fault that DFS could not post up three times or Brunson decided to shoot first before play as a PG. Lol.

I believe Luka’s numbers increased across the board in the playoffs.
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Re: RS 21/22 - Mavs @ Raptors (Sat. 7:30PM EST) 

Post#182 » by Darren » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:07 pm

I've an premature hypothesis. KP is better with Boban on the floor at least offensively. What if Boban sets a screen for KP and pick everything away? That's a 7-3 unicorn facing no rim protection (except perhaps charging attempts) in paint area. When someone is waiting for a charge, it could always open up backdoor opportunity. It could also end up with a wide-opened three in KP's sweet spot everytime. Boban can win a lot of matchup at least offensively in low post. A Boban-KP inside-out on a semi-iso set is also non-stoppable if TO potential could be resolved. I think an experiment could be pretty good as long as you find a way to be effective defensively. With Boban or KP, opponents generally will opt to attack the paint. But with both on the floor, could team really involve one in pick-n-roll and think it's done? I don't think so. They either see a Wall or a long athletic KP waiting for a volleyball block. Not to mention that Boban has the highest rebound rate compared to all Mavs big. This could potentially help the Mavs control the tempo by defending better and running a little more fastbreak. While Boban is not a PG, Boban could make plays and creates. Anyway, Boban should be an upgrade over Powell defensively.

Indeed, Powell and Kleber has some nice chemistry before drafting Luka. This could also boost the offense for 2nd unit. The Mavs at one point is having the most effective bench unit with Dirk, Powell, McBuckets, JJ and Yogi. Why not Maxi, Powell, Bullock, Burke and Brunson, then?
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Re: RS 21/22 - Mavs @ Raptors (Sat. 7:30PM EST) 

Post#183 » by Bob8 » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:07 pm

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boogiezen wrote:
arkuo wrote:The complaints about Luka stem from post season play. He can put on a clinic during the regular season with 50 pts, 50 ast and 50 rebounds per game. But its in the palyoffs when teams go small and put a longer guy on Luka which they go 6 or 7 games in a series. You cant pull off the same tricks for 6 or 7 games. Playoff teams adjust. It's the same movie running on it's 3rd year now. Heliocentric basketball does not work in the playoffs. But it does produce great fantasy numbers for the regular season.


Huh? Produced great fantasy numbers for the regular season? Isn't Luka had almost a triple double in the playoffs? :roll:

Isn't you the one who said that Luka should stop being a ballhog? You couldn't even come up a resolution with this current line up because you know that this team is not good enough. But hey it's still Luka's fault that DFS could not post up three times or Brunson decided to shoot first before play as a PG. Lol.

I believe Luka’s numbers increased across the board in the playoffs.


And 3pts %, a lot.
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Re: RS 21/22 - Mavs @ Raptors (Sat. 7:30PM EST) 

Post#184 » by Mavrelous » Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:41 am

Read on Twitter


Good thread on why Luka like double ball screen with a roller and popper, basically DP screens and rolls THJ/KP pop, and 1 or 2 players (DFS, Maxi, KP and Brunson) wait for the corner 3, this spaces the floor very well.
Luka's wizard, most defenses thrown at him he'll find the right way to respond, hit the roller, drive and kick, or finish at the rim, the only case where this failed was when long athletic defender, who fights through the screen successfully was thrown at him (Simmons, Gordon, Hunter).
This was RC's offense, I hope Kidd doesn't stubbornly throw away this effective and enjoyable offense just to put his mark.
it's been preseason and 2 games, the biggest problem from last year, rim protection, seems to be improved a lot, I hope they don't force another problem.
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Re: RS 21/22 - Mavs @ Raptors (Sat. 7:30PM EST) 

Post#185 » by Apz » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:47 am

Oh buddy hield the saviour. 18.2% fg% last night. He is ****, seriously
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Post#186 » by Bob8 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:55 am

Apz wrote:Oh buddy hield the saviour. 18.2% fg% last night. He is ****, seriously


If we go with small size data, then Mavs really **** up with Barnes, 28.3/10.3, 56% for 3. ;)
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Post#187 » by Apz » Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:27 am

Bob8 wrote:
Apz wrote:Oh buddy hield the saviour. 18.2% fg% last night. He is ****, seriously


If we go with small size data, then Mavs really **** up with Barnes, 28.3/10.3, 56% for 3. ;)


Just saying, considering people here keep saying thj is streaky and we shojld have traded for buddy. Wouldnt trade powell straight up for buddy if it was legal
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Re: RS 21/22 - Mavs @ Raptors (Sat. 7:30PM EST) 

Post#188 » by Bob8 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 12:07 pm

Apz wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Apz wrote:Oh buddy hield the saviour. 18.2% fg% last night. He is ****, seriously


If we go with small size data, then Mavs really **** up with Barnes, 28.3/10.3, 56% for 3. ;)


Just saying, considering people here keep saying thj is streaky and we shojld have traded for buddy. Wouldnt trade powell straight up for buddy if it was legal


I believe that THJ is worth his contract. Mavs problem are, max. player, who is more or less useless. 5 centers, what is a point of having them so many is beyond me. And 2020 year draft, where Mavs have missed everything.
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Post#189 » by SOUNDCHASER » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:29 pm

First game in Atl guys they are clearly motivated in a home opener and mean while Jason Kidd gets his first start as coach. Duh wtf else would you expect and you throw shooting so bad it’s like they gave up game 1
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Post#190 » by SOUNDCHASER » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:30 pm

Game 2 comes along and opening night jitters are gone so Winning returns
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Post#191 » by SOUNDCHASER » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:51 pm

DFS powell clearly one is getting shopped and the other is ok but not great so a sf is on my list.
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Post#192 » by SOUNDCHASER » Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:57 pm

So going forward the team can build and do a better job selling asssets
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Post#193 » by fuller4379 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:43 am

1-1 and some people think the sky is falling.
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Post#194 » by Mr B » Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:15 am

fuller4379 wrote:1-1 and some people think the sky is falling.

There’s no way they can come back from that bro. They should just start tanking right now.
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Post#195 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:29 pm

Yes guys, we could easily finish 43-32 or 42-30 like last 2 years but this doen't change the mediocrity of the roster... That kind of thinking is perfect to justify Cuban mistake.
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Post#196 » by Mr B » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:20 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:Yes guys, we could easily finish 43-32 or 42-30 like last 2 years but this doen't change the mediocrity of the roster... That kind of thinking is perfect to justify Cuban mistake.

They could finish with over 50+ wins too.
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Post#197 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:32 pm

Mr B wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:Yes guys, we could easily finish 43-32 or 42-30 like last 2 years but this doen't change the mediocrity of the roster... That kind of thinking is perfect to justify Cuban mistake.

They could finish with over 50+ wins too.


Yes of course because it's a full season without COVID stop...but the speech is the same.

Anyway...Go Mavssssssss
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Post#198 » by Mr B » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:40 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
Mr B wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:Yes guys, we could easily finish 43-32 or 42-30 like last 2 years but this doen't change the mediocrity of the roster... That kind of thinking is perfect to justify Cuban mistake.

They could finish with over 50+ wins too.


Yes of course because it's a full season without COVID stop...but the speech is the same.

Anyway...Go Mavssssssss

All I hear is “they have the same players, they have the same players”. Well those same players won 43 games in a 72 game season, and as you stated, in a Covid season. Without Covid and with 10 more games to play they easily win over 50 games with a damn near identical roster. So did these same guys suck last year too? How do you suck and win that many games?
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Post#199 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:17 pm

Mr B wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Mr B wrote:They could finish with over 50+ wins too.


Yes of course because it's a full season without COVID stop...but the speech is the same.

Anyway...Go Mavssssssss

All I hear is “they have the same players, they have the same players”. Well those same players won 43 games in a 72 game season, and as you stated, in a Covid season. Without Covid and with 10 more games to play they easily win over 50 games with a damn near identical roster. So did these same guys suck last year too? How do you suck and win that many games?


Yes, they sucked... we lost against very poor teams like OKC, Houston ecc ecc

With Luka win 50games is almost automatic, that's the point. He covers all the problems.
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Post#200 » by Mr B » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:55 am

41Dirk41 wrote:
Mr B wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Yes of course because it's a full season without COVID stop...but the speech is the same.

Anyway...Go Mavssssssss

All I hear is “they have the same players, they have the same players”. Well those same players won 43 games in a 72 game season, and as you stated, in a Covid season. Without Covid and with 10 more games to play they easily win over 50 games with a damn near identical roster. So did these same guys suck last year too? How do you suck and win that many games?


Yes, they sucked... we lost against very poor teams like OKC, Houston ecc ecc

With Luka win 50games is almost automatic, that's the point. He covers all the problems.

So you’re saying Luka can win 50 games all by himself? He can guard all 5 guys in the court at the same time?

Have you every watched basketball? Any team is capable of losing to any other team even if they are bad. I remember the 72 win Bulls losing to the 12 win Mavs, does that mean the Bulls sucked too?

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