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Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri

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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#201 » by fbalmeida » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:08 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:You're going to Muskoka business meeting with key ownership (the boss) accompanied by a videographer? C'mon, that's a little unusual.


Know what else is unusual? Some rich Whitt entitled douche bag who hasn’t worked a day in his life and is loving off Daddy’s money assuming that they were “bodyguards” instead of just introducing himself (like he would have if they were white) and determining who they actually were.

So the videographer was recording everything for what reason? Both sides of the story make little sense. And he thought the guy with the camera was a bodyguard? For hours or more than one day considering its in Muskoka? Doesn't add up.


The videographer didn't record anything pertaining to the meeting.

The source also disputed that Ujiri brought in bodyguards, saying that the Raptors chief had gone to Muskoka with his longtime driver so he could work in the car during the drive, as well as a videographer for a charitable project. , who was tagging along on their way back to the airport.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#202 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:09 pm

Both Rogers and Bell are greedy corporations that operate within an unfair system that takes advantage of its citizens but at least one of them was smart enough to realize Masai's importance.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#203 » by ItsDanger » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:11 pm

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fbalmeida wrote:I'd like to know more and dive into the details on that mix-up in the article: not only did he consider Masai as being arrogant, but after he showed up incidentally, with his driver and videographer, Ed Rogers mistook them both for bodyguards?

Um, what?

Risking being grossly unfair (I have no clue what his driver and videographer look like) could it be that Ed Rogers just couldn't handle black men in business casual without blowing a fuse?

I'd like to know more.

You're going to Muskoka business meeting with key ownership (the boss) accompanied by a videographer? C'mon, that's a little unusual.


What the F are you implying?

I'm stating the depiction that we're given appears misleading.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#204 » by MavCarter » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:15 pm

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Who has given heat to Larry T? I need names... I will fight them right now.

Forget Lowry.... forget Masai... LT is easily the unquestionable GROAT. Bar none. Full stop.


Maybe i have selective memory but i remember larry catching heat from the board because he was reportedly stubborn about letting BC go until TL put his foot down :lol:. LT seems to have a fatherly/son relationship with his players/execs which could be the explanation. You can even see it with him and masai
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#205 » by vini_vidi_vici » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:15 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:You're going to Muskoka business meeting with key ownership (the boss) accompanied by a videographer? C'mon, that's a little unusual.


What the F are you implying?

I'm stating the depiction that we're given appears misleading.


So using misinformation was your solution, sounds legitimate.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#206 » by ATLTimekeeper » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:16 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:You're going to Muskoka business meeting with key ownership (the boss) accompanied by a videographer? C'mon, that's a little unusual.


What the F are you implying?

I'm stating the depiction that we're given appears misleading.


No, you misread and have been corrected. It happens, but it happens to you a lot.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#207 » by Quattro » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:17 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
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ItsDanger wrote:You're going to Muskoka business meeting with key ownership (the boss) accompanied by a videographer? C'mon, that's a little unusual.


Know what else is unusual? Some rich Whitt entitled douche bag who hasn’t worked a day in his life and is loving off Daddy’s money assuming that they were “bodyguards” instead of just introducing himself (like he would have if they were white) and determining who they actually were.

So the videographer was recording everything for what reason? Both sides of the story make little sense. And he thought the guy with the camera was a bodyguard? For hours or more than one day considering its in Muskoka? Doesn't add up.

If you read the article, you would know why the videographer was there.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#208 » by ItsDanger » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:18 pm

vini_vidi_vici wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
What the F are you implying?

I'm stating the depiction that we're given appears misleading.


So using misinformation was your solution, sounds legitimate.

I'm speculating given the 3rd hand info. You're assuming its legitimate fact. Big difference.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#209 » by C Court » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:18 pm

This is not Edward's first rodeo. He was involved in efforts with the Blue Jays to push Beeston and Alex A out the door.

Edward has been involved in the exits of previous CEOs and executives at Rogers Communications and his dealings with Ujiri were also not the first time he clashed with highly-respected Toronto sports executives.

In 2014, Rogers attempted to hire Kenny Williams, then the executive vice-president of the Chicago White Sox, to fill the role Paul Beeston held as the president of the Blue Jays. That move was scuttled when Jerry Reinsdorf, the owner of the White Sox, alerted his close friend Beeston of Rogers’s intentions.

Rogers was also involved in the departure of Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos after negotiations fell apart over the role Anthopoulos would play under Beeston’s successor, Mark Shapiro.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#210 » by ItsDanger » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:20 pm

The Blue Jays roster is in great shape and people are complaining? That team had terrible bad luck this season or else they might be the one in the WS.
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Post#211 » by Fairview4Life » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:21 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
vini_vidi_vici wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:I'm stating the depiction that we're given appears misleading.


So using misinformation was your solution, sounds legitimate.

I'm speculating given the 3rd hand info. You're assuming its legitimate fact. Big difference.


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Post#212 » by tdot_steel » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:22 pm

Brinbe wrote:LOL WTF @ the legit disinformation in this topic. None of the corporate Media in this country, aside from maybe TorStar which are old money neoliberal, if anything, are liberal in anyway. The G&M/NaPo/Sun media are definitely various shades of conservatism.

Some of y'all on this board are seriously far out there but I've bitten my tongue on it. Low key lots of misogyny, racism, classism, and outright racism. I don't know even know why y'all watch and support this team lol.


Agree :nod: :nod: :nod:

I come for the basketball conversation. However, it is difficult to ignore some of the opinions and observations without a side eye.

Anyone that would label the National Post (Post Media) and Sun News as liberal is smoking some bad stuff. Rebel Media, Ezra Levant, Faith Goldie, Micheal Coren, Gavin McInnis and Sun News were all far right personalities/entities who straddled the alt-right line disguised as conservatism.

I suggest you read a very old book Don't Blame the People by Robert Cirino about how the media uses bias.

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Post#213 » by OakleyDokely » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:23 pm

ItsDanger wrote:The Blue Jays roster is in great shape and people are complaining? That team had terrible bad luck this season or else they might be the one in the WS.
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Post#214 » by TheRealDeal » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:25 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Both Rogers and Bell are greedy corporations that operate within an unfair system that takes advantage of its citizens but at least one of them was smart enough to realize Masai's importance.


I guess they don’t have to worry as much about paying for talent when the system is rigged in their favor
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Post#215 » by vini_vidi_vici » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:25 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
vini_vidi_vici wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:I'm stating the depiction that we're given appears misleading.


So using misinformation was your solution, sounds legitimate.

I'm speculating given the 3rd hand info. You're assuming its legitimate fact. Big difference.


When did I assume any of this was fact?? Quite the irony this is the response of someone who is ACTUALLY assuming.
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Post#216 » by Quattro » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:25 pm

C Court wrote:This is not Edward's first rodeo. He was involved in efforts with the Blue Jays to push Beeston and Alex A out the door.

Edward has been involved in the exits of previous CEOs and executives at Rogers Communications and his dealings with Ujiri were also not the first time he clashed with highly-respected Toronto sports executives.

In 2014, Rogers attempted to hire Kenny Williams, then the executive vice-president of the Chicago White Sox, to fill the role Paul Beeston held as the president of the Blue Jays. That move was scuttled when Jerry Reinsdorf, the owner of the White Sox, alerted his close friend Beeston of Rogers’s intentions.

Rogers was also involved in the departure of Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos after negotiations fell apart over the role Anthopoulos would play under Beeston’s successor, Mark Shapiro.


And while the jays continue to specialize in finishing in 4th place, the Braves are playing in the World Series. I stopped caring about the jays when this pissant pushed AA out the door. They’re a lost cause as long as they’re owned by these idiots. Watch how great their off-season will go.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#217 » by Rapcity_11 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:26 pm

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fbalmeida wrote:I'd like to know more and dive into the details on that mix-up in the article: not only did he consider Masai as being arrogant, but after he showed up incidentally, with his driver and videographer, Ed Rogers mistook them both for bodyguards?

Um, what?

Risking being grossly unfair (I have no clue what his driver and videographer look like) could it be that Ed Rogers just couldn't handle black men in business casual without blowing a fuse?

I'd like to know more.

You're going to Muskoka business meeting with key ownership (the boss) accompanied by a videographer? C'mon, that's a little unusual.


Know what else is unusual? Some rich Whitt entitled douche bag who hasn’t worked a day in his life and is loving off Daddy’s money assuming that they were “bodyguards” instead of just introducing himself (like he would have if they were white) and determining who they actually were.


How about the fact that Rogers was holding business meetings in Muskoka? How about having a business meeting, I dunno at an Office?
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#218 » by ItsDanger » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:28 pm

vini_vidi_vici wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
vini_vidi_vici wrote:
So using misinformation was your solution, sounds legitimate.

I'm speculating given the 3rd hand info. You're assuming its legitimate fact. Big difference.


When did I assume any of this was fact?? Quite the irony this is the response of someone who is ACTUALLY assuming.

I stated clearly both sides as presented in the media appear questionable. In your next meeting with your boss, bring a friend with a camcorder and see what happens.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#219 » by HiJiNX » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:28 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
fbalmeida wrote:I'd like to know more and dive into the details on that mix-up in the article: not only did he consider Masai as being arrogant, but after he showed up incidentally, with his driver and videographer, Ed Rogers mistook them both for bodyguards?

Um, what?

Risking being grossly unfair (I have no clue what his driver and videographer look like) could it be that Ed Rogers just couldn't handle black men in business casual without blowing a fuse?

I'd like to know more.

You're going to Muskoka business meeting with key ownership (the boss) accompanied by a videographer? C'mon, that's a little unusual.

Not if you’re filming something later or throughout the day.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#220 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:28 pm

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Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:OK, simple enough. Close all Rogers accounts.

Screw them.

Unfortunately, Rogers is the only decent internet option for my neighborhood. Bell doesn't have fast enough service, and independent ISPs are not price competitive.

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