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Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri

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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#221 » by Quattro » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:29 pm

ItsDanger wrote:The Blue Jays roster is in great shape and people are complaining? That team had terrible bad luck this season or else they might be the one in the WS.


You’re once again missing the point. The same guy involved here pushed out a GM who took this team from a 2 decade embarrassment to a double playoff run. And the team hasn’t made the playoffs since while the team our former GM has taken over is playing in the World Series.

And spare me the “luck”, “injuries” or whatever other BS jays fans love to trot out every year to explain another failure. Nobody cares
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Post#222 » by vini_vidi_vici » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:29 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:I'm speculating given the 3rd hand info. You're assuming its legitimate fact. Big difference.


When did I assume any of this was fact?? Quite the irony this is the response of someone who is ACTUALLY assuming.

I stated clearly both sides as presented in the media appear questionable. In your next meeting with your boss, bring a friend with a camcorder and see what happens.


Again, more assumptions.

Who had the camcorder?

Keep digging I guess.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#223 » by will » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:30 pm

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Post#224 » by Quattro » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:30 pm

At least we all know now what the hold up was in the negotiations. I was mystified at the length of time it took to get this done.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#225 » by vini_vidi_vici » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:31 pm

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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#226 » by C Court » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:32 pm

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Brinbe wrote:LOL WTF @ the legit disinformation in this topic. None of the corporate Media in this country, aside from maybe TorStar which are old money neoliberal, if anything, are liberal in anyway. The G&M/NaPo/Sun media are definitely various shades of conservatism.

Some of y'all on this board are seriously far out there but I've bitten my tongue on it. Low key lots of misogyny, racism, classism, and outright racism. I don't know even know why y'all watch and support this team lol.


Agree :nod: :nod: :nod:

I come for the basketball conversation. However, it is difficult to ignore some of the opinions and observations without a side eye.

Anyone that would label the National Post (Post Media) and Sun News as liberal is smoking some bad stuff. Rebel Media, Ezra Levant, Faith Goldie, Micheal Coren, Gavin McInnis and Sun News were all far right personalities/entities who straddled the alt-right line disguised as conservatism.

I suggest you read a very old book Don't Blame the People by Robert Cirino about how the media uses bias.

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In fairness to Michael Coren - he left the conservative fold many years ago and is now a strong liberal progressive. His ideological switch was quite surprising. But the rest on your list are very much far right.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#227 » by alienchild » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:33 pm

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Who has given heat to Larry T? I need names... I will fight them right now.

Forget Lowry.... forget Masai... LT is easily the unquestionable GROAT. Bar none. Full stop.


Leiweke also deserves a ton of credit for bringing back Masai…miss that guy


Leiweke was convinced to take the job by Larry T. who knew Tim from long before :)
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#228 » by tdot_steel » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:34 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:You're going to Muskoka business meeting with key ownership (the boss) accompanied by a videographer? C'mon, that's a little unusual.


Know what else is unusual? Some rich Whitt entitled douche bag who hasn’t worked a day in his life and is loving off Daddy’s money assuming that they were “bodyguards” instead of just introducing himself (like he would have if they were white) and determining who they actually were.

So the videographer was recording everything for what reason? Both sides of the story make little sense. And he thought the guy with the camera was a bodyguard? For hours or more than one day considering its in Muskoka? Doesn't add up.


I bring a videographer to record the interaction if I don't trust the person I am dealing with. Plain and simple.

Don't think Masai is an idiot and wasn't going to protect himself. If the story is even 50% true MU was correct in his assessment of the situation that Edward Rogers was unscrupulous.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#229 » by ItsDanger » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:35 pm

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ItsDanger wrote:The Blue Jays roster is in great shape and people are complaining? That team had terrible bad luck this season or else they might be the one in the WS.


You’re once again missing the point. The same guy involved here pushed out a GM who took this team from a 2 decade embarrassment to a double playoff run. And the team hasn’t made the playoffs since while the team our former GM has taken over is playing in the World Series.

And spare me the “luck”, “injuries” or whatever other BS jays fans love to trot out every year to explain another failure. Nobody cares

Was it Ed or Mark? Alex left on his own probably because he wanted more autonomy. Some of you should learn from him how to handle these matters. Fans shouldn't complain given the current status of the team, its in great shape.
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Post#230 » by bluerap23 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:36 pm

Imagine if he succeeded and this broke. City would be gathering pitchforks
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#232 » by redeye514 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:38 pm

ItsDanger wrote: In your next meeting with your boss, bring a friend with a camcorder and see what happens.


Will I have to make a 3 hour drive up north to boss man's pretentious cottage so he's not inconvenienced to meet with me as well? Perhaps I should wear something shiny and prepare a dance routine, gotta keep em entertained too, right?
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Post#233 » by ItsDanger » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:38 pm

Its amazing how OTPP evades all criticism meanwhile they let this franchise run into the ground up until 2011.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#234 » by Ramako » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:39 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
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ItsDanger wrote:You're going to Muskoka business meeting with key ownership (the boss) accompanied by a videographer? C'mon, that's a little unusual.


Know what else is unusual? Some rich Whitt entitled douche bag who hasn’t worked a day in his life and is loving off Daddy’s money assuming that they were “bodyguards” instead of just introducing himself (like he would have if they were white) and determining who they actually were.

So the videographer was recording everything for what reason? Both sides of the story make little sense. And he thought the guy with the camera was a bodyguard? For hours or more than one day considering its in Muskoka? Doesn't add up.


Where did the article say that videographer was recording anything? It said he was "tagging along as they were heading back to the airport after."
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Post#235 » by Ramako » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:40 pm

vini_vidi_vici wrote:
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What the F are you implying?

I'm stating the depiction that we're given appears misleading.


So using misinformation was your solution, sounds legitimate.


Par for the course.
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Post#236 » by ItsDanger » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:42 pm

Ramako wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
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Know what else is unusual? Some rich Whitt entitled douche bag who hasn’t worked a day in his life and is loving off Daddy’s money assuming that they were “bodyguards” instead of just introducing himself (like he would have if they were white) and determining who they actually were.

So the videographer was recording everything for what reason? Both sides of the story make little sense. And he thought the guy with the camera was a bodyguard? For hours or more than one day considering its in Muskoka? Doesn't add up.


Where did the article say that videographer was recording anything? It said he was "tagging along as they were heading back to the airport after."

MU: Hey, why don't you waste the entire day to tag along?
Me: What for?
MU: ????
Me: Better idea, why don't we meet up at the airport?
MU: I'm paying your salary.
Me: Ok, sure.
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Post#237 » by Jcity08 » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:42 pm

bluerap23 wrote:Imagine if he succeeded and this broke. City would be gathering pitchforks


There would be riots at Jurassic Park.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#238 » by ATLTimekeeper » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:44 pm

He wasn't accusing the guy of filming their business meeting. He mistook him for a bodyguard. That's the only point of the anecdote, to show how out to lunch Rogers is.

Honestly why would it even matter if Masai did bring bodyguards? It's not Rogers' place to judge.
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Re: Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri 

Post#239 » by s e n s i » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:46 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
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ItsDanger wrote:I'm stating the depiction that we're given appears misleading.


So using misinformation was your solution, sounds legitimate.

I'm speculating given the 3rd hand info. You're assuming its legitimate fact. Big difference.


you assumed based on absolutely nothing that the videographer recorded the whole meeting.

you've misled yourself, are being called out for it, and true to your vintage form, you're now "innocently" speculating on the "3rd hand info" provided.
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