Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri

[vini_vidi_vici]

People slagging Masai just because we aren’t still contending immediately after the title team broke up make me laugh. There is always a down period of rebuilding.

If we are treading water 2-3 years from now still then ok I can see people start questioning the direction a bit. But there is no such thing as eternally contending. The Spurs were once the model franchise, now they are treadmilling while trying to find a new guy. Does the organization suddenly suck? No. It takes time to refill the cupboard.

They lucked into Tim Duncan.

Pops is overrated, what has he done lately??

Buford, his last big trade he got fleeced by.... *checks notes*... nevermind.

[TheRealDeal]

Who has given heat to Larry T? I need names... I will fight them right now.

Forget Lowry.... forget Masai... LT is easily the unquestionable GROAT. Bar none. Full stop.

Leiweke also deserves a ton of credit for bringing back Masai…miss that guy

Leiweke was convinced to take the job by Larry T. who knew Tim from long before

[ItsDanger]

I asked it as a question. Not possible for you to hurt my feelings. But so many of you take it from your own biases. I'm not the one being used here.

You should go back and read this thread, I think you'll find the bold statement to be false.

Follow your own advice and read the first few pages. And you have zero clue about why I post here. LOL.

[wayoftheroad]

What a dyck. Obvious Trump supporter. Typical scumbag. How can u be so dumb to not realize what you have in Masai. Hang him!!!!

[tdot_steel]

Masai is just incredible at PR and embodying Canadian values as a leader. People love him for that, but I do think he has not really positioned Toronto for the future. He says we are rebuilding, but when will Toronto be relevant again. I think Rogers was asking for a plan and that is fair because how bad will this team be?

Here is my take on Masai's tenure:

Prior to the 2019 championship Toronto was a bit of laughingstock being bullied by LBJ every playoff series. They did win a lot in the regular season though, but the East was historically bad during that time.

Toronto had one championship run based on a lucky trade for Kawhi Leonard and LBJ moving to another conference. Also, Golden State losing their most important player to injury also helped immensely.

After the Championship, he bungled all the free agencies there after losing Ibaka, Gasol and Lowry for little to no compensation.

Masai has always valued Toronto players so high with without testing the market. The Khem Birch signing makes no sense and I doubt he was valued in the market the way Toronto signed him on. Siakam was signed before being on the open market - same as OG, and FVV got a pretty big contract as a 6 foot PG who only averaged 17.6 points, 6.6 assists at the time of his deal.

Trent Jr. was RFA and yet they signed him right away when they could have went after other players with their capspace and signed him with Bird rights. Or, they could have done their own sign and trade if another team wanted him. He isn't a bad player, but the contract value at his age is tough to accept.

Lowry's sign and trade really only helped Miami and only brought a mediocre prospect in Achuiwa and a paperweight in Dragic and killed all the capspace that had been planned for the past summer. It wasn't a great free agency, but we missed out on Richaun Holmes and Spencer Dinwiddie which would have made this team much better and supported the core team if that was direction we were going in.

Instead we have an awkward group of vets in their primes who have to play with a bunch on underexperienced players that may make the playin game. I only say this because other front offices with cheaper and shrewd GMs have made huge strides like Chicago, NY, Atl, Phoenix and maybe even Charlotte will take step this year.

Many valid points here imo. I find myself wishing we had a roster like the Bulls, a team that is going for it. Even the Wizards added Dinwiddie and the 3 Lakers, and are solid now. I was all for Suggs at the draft, obviously I'm coming around to Scottie now, but we are still a long way from contending, with no guarantees. And the roster construction
is questionable. I like Masai, glad he re-signed, but it is an awful lot of money for uncertain future results.

What have the Wizards and Bulls won in the last 20 years?
Masai has given Toronto a perennial playoff team until last year.

But I take it you are okay with MLSE paying a king's ransom to Leaf executives the last 40yrs with nothing to show for it.

[vini_vidi_vici]

So the videographer was recording everything for what reason? Both sides of the story make little sense. And he thought the guy with the camera was a bodyguard? For hours or more than one day considering its in Muskoka? Doesn't add up.

I like how this is framed as asking a question. Yea, the question isnt whether the guy was filming, it was why was he there filming lol.

[guvernator]

Wasn't presence of Ujiri supposed to be a primary reason for free agents to come here? What happened? Every thing else is being handled by Webster et al anyways...so if ujiri can't even attract free agents, what is his use?

[Local_NG_Idiot]

I asked it as a question. Not possible for you to hurt my feelings. But so many of you take it from your own biases. I'm not the one being used here.

You should go back and read this thread, I think you'll find the bold statement to be false.

Follow your own advice and read the first few pages. And you have zero clue about why I post here. LOL.

It isn't to expose Ujiri's camera man's power play to become the new CEO of RCI?

[vini_vidi_vici]

Wasn't presence of Ujiri supposed to be a primary reason for free agents to come here? What happened? Every thing else is being handled by Webster et al anyways...so if ujiri can't even attract free agents, what is his use?

Im convinced, FIRE MU!!!

[MavCarter]

Wasn't presence of Ujiri supposed to be a primary reason for free agents to come here? What happened? Every thing else is being handled by Webster et al anyways...so if ujiri can't even attract free agents, what is his use?

Do you go on an internet forum and say edgy things because you get no attention in real life?

[vini_vidi_vici]

You should go back and read this thread, I think you'll find the bold statement to be false.

Follow your own advice and read the first few pages. And you have zero clue about why I post here. LOL.

It isn't to expose Ujiri's camera man's power play to become the new CEO of RCI?

The real story hasnt even been told of this lowly camcorder videographer who dared to topple the media oligarchs.

[ItsDanger]

So the videographer was recording everything for what reason? Both sides of the story make little sense. And he thought the guy with the camera was a bodyguard? For hours or more than one day considering its in Muskoka? Doesn't add up.

I like how this is framed as asking a question. Yea, the question isnt whether the guy was filming, it was why was he there filming lol.

Keep trying, you'll get there sooner or later. Both sides of the story make little sense. Therefore this person probably wasn't filming anything, this person was just there so Masai wasn't alone maybe? WHo knows. And somehow the Rogers owner assumed the entire time this videographer was a "bodyguard". LOL, not believable either. But keep trying to attack me. If it makes you feel better.

[Local_NG_Idiot]

Follow your own advice and read the first few pages. And you have zero clue about why I post here. LOL.

It isn't to expose Ujiri's camera man's power play to become the new CEO of RCI?

The real story hasnt even been told of this lowly camcorder videographer who dared to topple the media oligarchs.

Dude brought a camera to a meeting in Muskoka, without a CAMERA!.....pawns.

[Boardbreaker]

Wasn't presence of Ujiri supposed to be a primary reason for free agents to come here? What happened? Every thing else is being handled by Webster et al anyways...so if ujiri can't even attract free agents, what is his use?

We got some real weirdos posting here. I bet this is a gsptheman or whatever his name was alt account.

[Quattro]

No GM is worth 15 million dollars (nothing wrong in Rogers' thoughts). You know how much Billy Beane makes - 4 million - in a sport where being a GM is most impactful.
This team is headed towards a decade of mediocrity or worse and here we have a bunch of lemmings cheering a suit. Gl.

Nah. You just don’t understand what you’re talking about. It’s ok to admit it. Imagine siding with Rogers over Masai Ujiri. What a “fan”.

[vini_vidi_vici]

So the videographer was recording everything for what reason? Both sides of the story make little sense. And he thought the guy with the camera was a bodyguard? For hours or more than one day considering its in Muskoka? Doesn't add up.

I like how this is framed as asking a question. Yea, the question isnt whether the guy was filming, it was why was he there filming lol.

Keep trying, you'll get there sooner or later. Both sides of the story make little sense. Therefore this person probably wasn't filming anything, this person was just there so Masai wasn't alone maybe? WHo knows. And somehow the Rogers owner assumed the entire time this videographer was a "bodyguard". LOL, not believable either. But keep trying to attack me. If it makes you feel better.

Im a victim too. Im a lowly pawn who cant understand the dynamics of the RCI power struggle. My apologies. Educate us all.

[ItsDanger]

I like how this is framed as asking a question. Yea, the question isnt whether the guy was filming, it was why was he there filming lol.

Keep trying, you'll get there sooner or later. Both sides of the story make little sense. Therefore this person probably wasn't filming anything, this person was just there so Masai wasn't alone maybe? WHo knows. And somehow the Rogers owner assumed the entire time this videographer was a "bodyguard". LOL, not believable either. But keep trying to attack me. If it makes you feel better.

Im a victim too. Im a lowly pawn who cant understand the dynamics of the RCI power struggle. My apologies. Educate us all.

Hey, you cancel that Rogers subscription. Its a noble fight you got there. LOL

[WuTang_CMB]

Wasn't presence of Ujiri supposed to be a primary reason for free agents to come here? What happened? Every thing else is being handled by Webster et al anyways...so if ujiri can't even attract free agents, what is his use?

Spoiler:

[newsletter]

Sure man, the team was terrible with both DeMar and Lowry as "faces." Then Masai came and the team was good again.

The team is now worse than it has been for 15 years. Congratulations Masai. You better be giving your PR team a raise considering the state of the Fandom.

is this an alternate account? 71 posts per year and this is the most active you've been - about a guy that brought us a chip? lol.

Highly suspect indeed

[vini_vidi_vici]

Keep trying, you'll get there sooner or later. Both sides of the story make little sense. Therefore this person probably wasn't filming anything, this person was just there so Masai wasn't alone maybe? WHo knows. And somehow the Rogers owner assumed the entire time this videographer was a "bodyguard". LOL, not believable either. But keep trying to attack me. If it makes you feel better.

Im a victim too. Im a lowly pawn who cant understand the dynamics of the RCI power struggle. My apologies. Educate us all.

Hey, you cancel that Rogers subscription. Its a noble fight you got there. LOL

I dont have a rogers subscription. Tell me how to identify whether a videographer is filming or not? if im not there. These are the insights we came to you for.