The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread - New Thread Soon Part 2

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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#241 » by thebigbird » Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:09 pm

donnieme wrote:
nzahir wrote:
thebigbird wrote:Vogel will still start him though.

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Just pathetic, Vogel is the definition of insanity

I know our depth is weak, but even w/o DJ we have

Russ, Monk/Avery/Reaves, Bazemore, Bron, AD
Monk/Avery/Reaves, Melo, Dwight

We even have Rondo as a worst case, but no need to even play DJ rn

Jordan was most likely promised minutes. He left the Nets for playing time, he would have sought assurances from whomever he signed with, in this case the Lakers. So I'll say it once again, what a foolish signing. Lob threat my foot, notice the playmakers throw his "lobs" under the rim where he (and his defender) can reach. Will be so easy to guard in the playoffs, he can no longer reach lobs with arc on them. You had better start looking for a replacement starting now.

Anyone stupid enough to promise completely washed Deandre Jordan minutes in the year 2021 doesn’t deserve to win.
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Post#242 » by nzahir » Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:38 pm

thebigbird wrote:
donnieme wrote:
nzahir wrote:Just pathetic, Vogel is the definition of insanity

I know our depth is weak, but even w/o DJ we have

Russ, Monk/Avery/Reaves, Bazemore, Bron, AD
Monk/Avery/Reaves, Melo, Dwight

We even have Rondo as a worst case, but no need to even play DJ rn

Jordan was most likely promised minutes. He left the Nets for playing time, he would have sought assurances from whomever he signed with, in this case the Lakers. So I'll say it once again, what a foolish signing. Lob threat my foot, notice the playmakers throw his "lobs" under the rim where he (and his defender) can reach. Will be so easy to guard in the playoffs, he can no longer reach lobs with arc on them. You had better start looking for a replacement starting now.

Anyone stupid enough to promise completely washed Deandre Jordan minutes in the year 2021 doesn’t deserve to win.

Also should be a fireable offence...

But sadly Jeanie isn't the most competent either and thinks Pelinka is an elite GM

AD and Dwight should be our only bigs playing rn and only 1 at a time

We could use a 4/5 like Kieff, but hopefully one that provides more rim protection than Kieff did

Larry Nance Jr would be nice in a perfect world, but he is out of our price range

Taj Gibson? Not the quickest anymore though I believe

Not sure we could realistically make a trade for Boucher w/o moving Nunn or THT (because of salaries). He has played poorly, but he is a nice mobile big who can stretch the floor
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#243 » by PistolPeteJR » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:59 am

The Lakers should cut DJ and pick up Aminu. He was waived by the Spurs last week.
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#244 » by MisterHibachi » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:25 am

Read on Twitter
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Post#245 » by homecourtloss » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:50 am

thebigbird wrote:Vogel will still start him though.

Read on Twitter
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Lakers with Russ OFF court:
38 minutes: 111.9 ORtg, 98.8 DRtg, +13.1 per 100 possessions

Lakers with LeBron ON, Russ OFF:
32 minutes: 114.9 ORtg, 107.5 DRtg , +7.4 per 100 possessions

Lakers with LeBron ON, Russ and AD OFF:
10 minutes: 147.5 ORtg, 115.8 DRtg, +31.7 per 100 possessions :lol:

Still very early going and small sample sizes.
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Post#246 » by homecourtloss » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:58 am

Another hidden **** aspect of Westbrook’s game is how awful he is finishing in transition. Lakers aren’t getting very many stops and when they do, instead of James leading in transition, it’s Westbrook who’s throwing away points left and right.

2021-2022: 5.7 transition possessions (8th most), .41 points per possession, 0 percentile
2021: 6.0 transition possessions (2nd most), .94 points per possession, 20th percentile
2020: 7.3 transition possessions (most), 1.01 PPP, 29th percentile
2019: 7.0 transition possessions (most), .87 PPP, 12th percentile
2018: 6.7 transition possessions (most), 1.01 PPP, 34th percentile (notice how 2018 and 2020 have the same PPP but Westbrooks’s in a lower percentile in 2020 due to an increase of threes shot in transition and the efficacy of them league wide in addition to random variance from season to season)
2017: 6.8 transition possessions (most), .99 PPP, 31st percentile
2016: 5.9 transition possessions (2nd most), 1.15 PPP, 59th percentile
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.

lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
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Post#247 » by trickshot » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:08 am

They've now scored 114, 105 and 121. Since game 1 the offense actually looked promising for a team with zero chemistry. The Warriors game might have been their floor and they still scored fairly easily. I think they'll comfortably win any game they keep the opponents under 100 points. On the other hand it's also too bad it comes with 118ppg conceded in the 3 games. Furthermore the teams they faced all had 1 or 2 horrible quarters and still hung 120 so there might actually be a chance we haven't even seen the defense's rock bottom. This one is my own hot take prediction but I think someone drops 130 or 140 on it before the end of next week and it won't purely be a pace thing.
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#248 » by Baski » Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:39 pm

homecourtloss wrote:Another hidden **** aspect of Westbrook’s game is how awful he is finishing in transition. Lakers aren’t getting very many stops and when they do, instead of James leading in transition, it’s Westbrook who’s throwing away points left and right.

2021-2022: 5.7 transition possessions (8th most), .41 points per possession, 0 percentile
2021: 6.0 transition possessions (2nd most), .94 points per possession, 20th percentile
2020: 7.3 transition possessions (most), 1.01 PPP, 29th percentile
2019: 7.0 transition possessions (most), .87 PPP, 12th percentile
2018: 6.7 transition possessions (most), 1.01 PPP, 34th percentile (notice how 2018 and 2020 have the same PPP but Westbrooks’s in a lower percentile in 2020 due to an increase of threes shot in transition and the efficacy of them league wide in addition to random variance from season to season)
2017: 6.8 transition possessions (most), .99 PPP, 31st percentile
2016: 5.9 transition possessions (2nd most), 1.15 PPP, 59th percentile

Wait a minute. So where does his reputation as an elite transition player come from? The fact that he can run fast?
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#249 » by homecourtloss » Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:56 pm

Baski wrote:
homecourtloss wrote:Another hidden **** aspect of Westbrook’s game is how awful he is finishing in transition. Lakers aren’t getting very many stops and when they do, instead of James leading in transition, it’s Westbrook who’s throwing away points left and right.

2021-2022: 5.7 transition possessions (8th most), .41 points per possession, 0 percentile
2021: 6.0 transition possessions (2nd most), .94 points per possession, 20th percentile
2020: 7.3 transition possessions (most), 1.01 PPP, 29th percentile
2019: 7.0 transition possessions (most), .87 PPP, 12th percentile
2018: 6.7 transition possessions (most), 1.01 PPP, 34th percentile (notice how 2018 and 2020 have the same PPP but Westbrooks’s in a lower percentile in 2020 due to an increase of threes shot in transition and the efficacy of them league wide in addition to random variance from season to season)
2017: 6.8 transition possessions (most), .99 PPP, 31st percentile
2016: 5.9 transition possessions (2nd most), 1.15 PPP, 59th percentile

Wait a minute. So where does his reputation as an elite transition player come from? The fact that he can run fast?


Basically. In the past, he could at least draw some fouls and make FTs but now he doesn’t even do that. Additionally, he’s turnover prone in transition, too, which reflects in the abysmal .41 points per possession in transition.

Westbrook’s integration into the offense is taking away a) LeBron drives b) LeBron transition opportunities, which is one reason why James has his fewest attempts at the rim in his career so far. The highest possible outcome of this is…offense that’s less than LeBron’s offense on drives and in transition. There’s literally no upshot. :lol:
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.

lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#250 » by TroubleS0me » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:51 pm

goes to show how good D-Wade was
wasnt a good 3pt shooter he was efficient & smart player
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Post#251 » by Kobe187 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:35 pm

Awful start to the season, especially defensively.

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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#252 » by The High Cyde » Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:47 pm

They should rest James today, no need for him to push himself against the Spurs, AD and Westbrook should be able to handle it.

It’s a long season and wouldn’t want to exacerbate any lingering injuries.
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Post#253 » by thebigbird » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:06 pm

Kobe187 wrote:Awful start to the season, especially defensively.


Kobe in the username :roll:
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Post#254 » by Greyhound » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:44 pm

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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#255 » by nzahir » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:52 pm

Looks like Lebron is out tonight

Time for Russ to step up

Thank god the Spurs are weak and a small team

If we cant beat the Spurs....

Russ, Monk, Bazemore, Melo, AD
Rondo, Bradley, Reaves, Dwight

Man the depth is thin, so I think DJ starts sadly

Sekou sucks, but is he available?

We are being so cheap by not signing Ennis or another wing
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Post#256 » by trickshot » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:51 am

Lebron out makes tonight a must watch. Get to see what Westbrook running the show but also that's 3 of the 4 two way players injured so the game is going to look like a track meet. Also always a bit irritating to see Lebron and Rondo faulted for Westbrook not being able to pad (Harden before them). Those dastardly impactful ballhandlers.
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#257 » by GSP » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:14 am

**** Solomon Hill man. Last season was his last chance at Mvp. Him, Jokic and Embiid were close to tied and I think Bron was even the favorite before that reckless idiot hurt him
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#258 » by Heej » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:51 am

High ankle sprains are the worst man. This guys injuries are piling up. If anyone could delay the inevitable tho it's LeBron haha
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#259 » by letskissbro » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:20 am

Is Westbrook even a good passer at this point? Most of his passes are either off target or too fast for his teammates to handle. Dude is so trash
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#260 » by trickshot » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:26 am

oops thought was game thread.

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