Nets v. Wizards | 10.25.2021 @ 7:30 PM on YES/NBATV

[MrDollarBills]

One thing I REALLY noticed this game was the officiating.

It's not just the points of emphasis or the flopping or the foul baiting. The refs aren't calling ANYTHING that isn't blatant or intentional. It feels like FIBA or college at times. I like it but I don't wanna see the refs start calling soft stuff when certain stars are in town.

Yeah, this is a shift back towards early 00s basketball in regards to fouling. I don't mind it as long as the games are called both ways. Don't sit there, watch Harden get wacked with no call, and then go back down the floor and call ticky tack fouls in LeBron's favor. That will send me.

[MrDollarBills]

I don’t know any other coach who doesn’t try to gain a consistent starting line up. It’s important for players to get in a grove and know when their minutes are coming. The issue for the nets last season was lack of consistency with the line up. That was a lot out of necessity but also somewhat Nash. We are healthy and ready to go. There is no reason not to be consistent.

Nash will say he wants guys to be ready to play come play off time if needed but then he didn’t play them in the playoffs when they were needed. Hilarious.

I think we need to stick with Blake at C for now.

Harden/Brown/Harris/KD/Blake should be the consistent 5 from here on out, but I would swap LMA for Blake when we play against teams like Denver and Philly. Blake should be able to at least hang with Bam when we play Miami.

[TheNetsFan]

I don’t know any other coach who doesn’t try to gain a consistent starting line up. It’s important for players to get in a grove and know when their minutes are coming. The issue for the nets last season was lack of consistency with the line up. That was a lot out of necessity but also somewhat Nash. We are healthy and ready to go. There is no reason not to be consistent.

Nash will say he wants guys to be ready to play come play off time if needed but then he didn’t play them in the playoffs when they were needed. Hilarious.

I think we need to stick with Blake at C for now.

Harden/Brown/Harris/KD/Blake should be the consistent 5 from here on out, but I would swap LMA for Blake when we play against teams like Denver and Philly. Blake should be able to at least hang with Bam when we play Miami.

It might be an oversimplification, but I look at Brown & Claxton playing almost the same role. One should be on the court pretty much at all times, but never together. 40-45 minutes per game combined. Based on matchup, rotate 2 of the 3 old bigs at center.

[Prokorov]

Patty is the best, why are we paying Joe $17m a year. I'd be looking to trade Joe for a a guy who can D up

When mills hits a 5/35 slump and harris cant miss, you will remeber why. These guys are paid for actual past performance. Joe has been the best shooter in THE ENTIRE NBA over the past 3 season, on high volume.

Mills is for sure underpaid, give marks a big pat on the back. there is a reason harris makes 17 million. go look at role shooters who take 6-10 threes a game. few if any are as good/consistent as joe, and much do alot less then even joe does. (like some legit never move from the corner ever)

[DarkXaero]

Nash never said that he wasn't going to play Bruce Brown. He just said that he already knew what they had in Bruce Brown and they wanted to give others a chance to see what they could do. He specifically said that Bruce Brown would be back in rotation soon.

Dumb mistake would be not try and experiment. This group of vets definitely consigned with it.

LOL.

Bruce Brown was our 3rd best player in the playoffs last year. There was no scenario in which he shouldn't start let alone get minutes.

It was dumb then and its dumb now.

I don't think you're understanding. Nets already know what Brown can do and never planned to take him permanently out of the rotation. The coaching staff wanted to see what other players can do in extended minutes, given that we have a deep roster and not everyone will ultimately have playing time once the rotation settles.

[DarkXaero]

Patty is the best, why are we paying Joe $17m a year. I'd be looking to trade Joe for a a guy who can D up

When mills hits a 5/35 slump and harris cant miss, you will remeber why. These guys are paid for actual past performance. Joe has been the best shooter in THE ENTIRE NBA over the past 3 season, on high volume.

Mills is for sure underpaid, give marks a big pat on the back. there is a reason harris makes 17 million. go look at role shooters who take 6-10 threes a game. few if any are as good/consistent as joe, and much do alot less then even joe does. (like some legit never move from the corner ever)

Are you ready to accept now that Joe Harris is struggling mightily early in the season right now?

[Prokorov]

For the life of me I don't see how James Johnson was getting more mins than Bembry, who is far better on both ends.

Bembry and Brown should be getting much more mins going forward. Less mins for Carter and Johnson.

They're similar caliber players (Bembry and James Johnson) but James Johnson is now approaching mid 30s, doesn't quite have the same athleticism and energy anymore. But I think you're being harsh on James Johnson who is better than what he has shown so far.

I agree on this....

what needs to also be factored in is they play different positions... big vs. small. there minutes dont factor eachother. for bembry to play more Carter/mills/Harris/Harden have to play less. I think if carter cant find his three ball you will see more bembry. its a good problem to have

[Prokorov]

Patty is the best, why are we paying Joe $17m a year. I'd be looking to trade Joe for a a guy who can D up

Joe value must be all time low right now , at least in my eyes , he used to drive behind defenders and score ( not anymore) his shooting disappeared in Bucks series and he never got it back , waste of a roster spot as of now

Feel like this a bit of an overreaction. He almost always starts a season off slow.

Give it a month at least.

yeah... i mean "since the bucks series" is legit 4 games

[Prokorov]

Patty is the best, why are we paying Joe $17m a year. I'd be looking to trade Joe for a a guy who can D up

I mean Joe has been abysmal. He's posting a PER of 5 on 37/39/50

He needs to perform better. He's not a kid anymore and he's being paid like a high end role player. We need him.

Three point shooters, even the best ones are streaky and there is no way around it. if they werent guys would be shooting 60% from three.

Again, point to shamet last year, who got KILLED. i said it will all come back to the main, and he finsihed the year right at 39-40% where he typically is expected.

Same with Joe. Elite shooters dont forget how to shoot.

[Prokorov]

Well he finished last one slow as well

Yes, we're all pissed about last season.

I get it but it's a new season and it's not even been 5 games yet. He's historically a slow starter, so not going to kill him based off how the playoffs ended.

You’re right still pissed about last season, maybe overreaction on my part , but if this continues Marks should wait for few games good stretch and ship him out if possible
Even though he hit this three 8 of 10 (20%)

Who would you want to trade joe for? someone elses three point shooter who is less consistent/reliable? because quite literally every shooter in the NBA is less consistent/reliable with a huge 3 year sample

[Prokorov]

Patty is the best, why are we paying Joe $17m a year. I'd be looking to trade Joe for a a guy who can D up

When mills hits a 5/35 slump and harris cant miss, you will remeber why. These guys are paid for actual past performance. Joe has been the best shooter in THE ENTIRE NBA over the past 3 season, on high volume.

Mills is for sure underpaid, give marks a big pat on the back. there is a reason harris makes 17 million. go look at role shooters who take 6-10 threes a game. few if any are as good/consistent as joe, and much do alot less then even joe does. (like some legit never move from the corner ever)

Are you ready to accept now that Joe Harris is struggling mightily early in the season right now?

I think his play is fine. He is shooting 35% from three in a small sample. He will hit 1-2 more a night once he gets going and it will even out. its not like he is shooting 25% for the entire first month like shamet last year. I think the criticism is way overblown and stems from the big missed shots vs. the bucks.

Harris is doing what is expected, taking the shots he should. playing the same role at the same level. he has missed some open ones he usually hits. he is going to have a 6/8 game soon and be back up to 40-45%.

I dont see "Struggling" struggling is someone who cant hit anything and is going o-for and sulking on the floor and not hustling. none of that i see from joe right now.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Dumb mistake would be not try and experiment. This group of vets definitely consigned with it.

LOL.

Bruce Brown was our 3rd best player in the playoffs last year. There was no scenario in which he shouldn't start let alone get minutes.

It was dumb then and its dumb now.

I don't think you're understanding. Nets already know what Brown can do and never planned to take him permanently out of the rotation. The coaching staff wanted to see what other players can do in extended minutes, given that we have a deep roster and not everyone will ultimately have playing time once the rotation settles.

What is the purpose of not playing Brown when hes crucial to our team? Why not cut someone else's minutes?

Made no sense at all.

[DarkXaero]

When mills hits a 5/35 slump and harris cant miss, you will remeber why. These guys are paid for actual past performance. Joe has been the best shooter in THE ENTIRE NBA over the past 3 season, on high volume.

Mills is for sure underpaid, give marks a big pat on the back. there is a reason harris makes 17 million. go look at role shooters who take 6-10 threes a game. few if any are as good/consistent as joe, and much do alot less then even joe does. (like some legit never move from the corner ever)

Are you ready to accept now that Joe Harris is struggling mightily early in the season right now?

I think his play is fine. He is shooting 35% from three in a small sample. He will hit 1-2 more a night once he gets going and it will even out. its not like he is shooting 25% for the entire first month like shamet last year. I think the criticism is way overblown and stems from the big missed shots vs. the bucks.

Harris is doing what is expected, taking the shots he should. playing the same role at the same level. he has missed some open ones he usually hits. he is going to have a 6/8 game soon and be back up to 40-45%.

I dont see "Struggling" struggling is someone who cant hit anything and is going o-for and sulking on the floor and not hustling. none of that i see from joe right now.

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[DarkXaero]

LOL.

Bruce Brown was our 3rd best player in the playoffs last year. There was no scenario in which he shouldn't start let alone get minutes.

It was dumb then and its dumb now.

I don't think you're understanding. Nets already know what Brown can do and never planned to take him permanently out of the rotation. The coaching staff wanted to see what other players can do in extended minutes, given that we have a deep roster and not everyone will ultimately have playing time once the rotation settles.

What is the purpose of not playing Brown when hes crucial to our team? Why not cut someone else's minutes?

Made no sense at all.

Brown is not crucial to our team, he's a replaceable role player. Nets fans need to stop overstating the importance of Bruce Brown. That is not to say that he's not a good rotation player, because he is, but developing reliance on a player with Bruce Brown's limitations is not good. And whose minutes were we going to cut? Harden? Joe Harris? Patty MIlls? Jevon Carter was the guy that the Nets wanted to give minutes to see what he can do in place of Brown. Not to mention, Bruce Brown only really works well in small ball lineups as he's a non shooter and needs to be accommodated with a 3pt threat at 5.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I don't think you're understanding. Nets already know what Brown can do and never planned to take him permanently out of the rotation. The coaching staff wanted to see what other players can do in extended minutes, given that we have a deep roster and not everyone will ultimately have playing time once the rotation settles.

What is the purpose of not playing Brown when hes crucial to our team? Why not cut someone else's minutes?

Made no sense at all.

Brown is not crucial to our team, he's a replaceable role player. Nets fans need to stop overstating the importance of Bruce Brown. That is not to say that he's not a good rotation player, because he is, but developing reliance on a player with Bruce Brown's limitations is not good. And whose minutes were we going to cut? Harden? Joe Harris? Patty MIlls? Jevon Carter was the guy that the Nets wanted to give minutes to see what he can do in place of Brown. Not to mention, Bruce Brown only really works well in small ball lineups as he's a non shooter and needs to be accommodated with a 3pt threat at 5.

Lol ok. He is a replaceable role player. We have no one else that does what he does. That is high effort and good defensively on the perimeter.

I would personally love to cut trash Joe Harris's minutes. Or Claxton's. Or Carter's. Without Brown we were so lazy and useless defensively.

[DarkXaero]

What is the purpose of not playing Brown when hes crucial to our team? Why not cut someone else's minutes?

Made no sense at all.

Brown is not crucial to our team, he's a replaceable role player. Nets fans need to stop overstating the importance of Bruce Brown. That is not to say that he's not a good rotation player, because he is, but developing reliance on a player with Bruce Brown's limitations is not good. And whose minutes were we going to cut? Harden? Joe Harris? Patty MIlls? Jevon Carter was the guy that the Nets wanted to give minutes to see what he can do in place of Brown. Not to mention, Bruce Brown only really works well in small ball lineups as he's a non shooter and needs to be accommodated with a 3pt threat at 5.

Lol ok. He is a replaceable role player. We have no one else that does what he does. That is high effort and good defensively on the perimeter.

I would personally love to cut trash Joe Harris's minutes. Or Claxton's. Or Carter's. Without Brown we were so lazy and useless defensively.

Jevon Carter does what Brown does (point of attack defense specialist) but Brown is better due to being bigger and therefore more capable of guarding bigger players on switches. Obviously Jevon Carter has not made his jumpers in the reg season so far so its hard to justify his playing time over Brown. But he did have a great preseason and therefore it was worth seeing whether he can be a bigger part of the rotation.

Cutting Joe Harris minutes is tough because he's the highest paid role player on this team by far ($19 mill/yr) and we need him to produce, he can't be dead weight. If he stays that way, then he needs to be traded for someone who can help us. The problem with Joe is that if he's not a hyper efficient 3pt specialist for us (something he did for us brilliantly last reg season), then he's a liability. His defense seems to have regressed (and it already wasn't good) and he gets targeted more frequently now on mismatches/switches.

[therealbig3]

Eh I’m as pissed at Joe as anyone for his disappearing act against the Bucks in the playoffs, but shooting 35% through 4 games from deep isn’t the worst thing in the world.

I have legit concerns about how the guy is gonna play come playoff time, because unfortunately I get the feeling he’s just a choker and can’t perform when the lights are brightest (which is why I think he should have been traded for anyone that can actually function in the playoffs, since that’s really what matters at the end of the day), but so far this regular season? Eh, it’s 4 games.

[ArksNetsSince99]

Yes, we're all pissed about last season.

I get it but it's a new season and it's not even been 5 games yet. He's historically a slow starter, so not going to kill him based off how the playoffs ended.

You’re right still pissed about last season, maybe overreaction on my part , but if this continues Marks should wait for few games good stretch and ship him out if possible
Even though he hit this three 8 of 10 (20%)

Who would you want to trade joe for? someone elses three point shooter who is less consistent/reliable? because quite literally every shooter in the NBA is less consistent/reliable with a huge 3 year sample

Who said i want a shooter ?
Harris will perform and give you few threes here and there in meaningless regular season games but ,
hypothetically we down 3 with 7 seconds in playoff game , i don't wanna see ball in Harris hands , i rather KD Harden or Mills shoot it despite Joe great %
I don’t trust him in crunch time , period

[Hello Brooklyn]

Eh I’m as pissed at Joe as anyone for his disappearing act against the Bucks in the playoffs, but shooting 35% through 4 games from deep isn’t the worst thing in the world.

I have legit concerns about how the guy is gonna play come playoff time, because unfortunately I get the feeling he’s just a choker and can’t perform when the lights are brightest (which is why I think he should have been traded for anyone that can actually function in the playoffs, since that’s really what matters at the end of the day), but so far this regular season? Eh, it’s 4 games.

Hes terrible. Its not just the shooting. His scoring and defense have been terrible. I get it its a few games. But why does he keep doing this?

[Hello Brooklyn]

You’re right still pissed about last season, maybe overreaction on my part , but if this continues Marks should wait for few games good stretch and ship him out if possible
Even though he hit this three 8 of 10 (20%)

Who would you want to trade joe for? someone elses three point shooter who is less consistent/reliable? because quite literally every shooter in the NBA is less consistent/reliable with a huge 3 year sample

Who said i want a shooter ?
Harris will perform and give you few threes here and there in meaningless regular season games but ,
hypothetically we down 3 with 7 seconds in playoff game , i don't wanna see ball in Harris hands , i rather KD Harden or Mills shoot it despite Joe great %
I don’t trust him in crunch time , period

Honestly I wish we had Dinwiddie over Harris. Especially with Kyrie out.