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Post#161 » by Impuniti » Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:16 am

Simmons ghosted his entire team and organization because they said a few mean things about him. I can't see a loser like that fitting in with the Warrior team where your mistakes are pointed out regularly.
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Post#162 » by Mac1958 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:52 am

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I'm leaning in more on this until there's another star available other than Ben Simmons. I believe the Warriors can win a Championship this season, but if something is available to put us over the top I wouldn't hesitate trading Wiseman.

If Wiseman can bring anything off the bench in limited minutes - block shots, altering shots, a few lobs, then I can't wait to see it.


If the Sixers offer Simmons and a 1st for Wiggins do you do it?


If im not giving up Kuminga and Wiseman than yes, but its not an easy choice honestly for me.

Wiggins FITS so well with the team in terms of being the 3rd offensive guy in the starters. Wiggins can hit threes, create his own shot, post up, play defense etc. The fact that Wiggins can be a shooter helps the Warriors so much and his 15-18ppg might be more valuable than Simmons.

Such a tough call.


There's more to Simmons than his terrible shooting. Most athletes would have taken what Rivers said at that press conference as a challenge; he took it as a personal attack and his feelings were oh-so-hurt. Then he was willing to hurt the team by not showing up and being a massive distraction.

I wouldn't want any part of that. Not on a team with this kind of chemistry, a team that is built to compete for the ring. And yeah, Wiggins is a better fit and the kids need some time.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#163 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:05 pm

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If the Sixers offer Simmons and a 1st for Wiggins do you do it?


If im not giving up Kuminga and Wiseman than yes, but its not an easy choice honestly for me.

Wiggins FITS so well with the team in terms of being the 3rd offensive guy in the starters. Wiggins can hit threes, create his own shot, post up, play defense etc. The fact that Wiggins can be a shooter helps the Warriors so much and his 15-18ppg might be more valuable than Simmons.

Such a tough call.


There's more to Simmons than his terrible shooting. Most athletes would have taken what Rivers said at that press conference as a challenge; he took it as a personal attack and his feelings were oh-so-hurt. Then he was willing to hurt the team by not showing up and being a massive distraction.

I wouldn't want any part of that. Not on a team with this kind of chemistry, a team that is built to compete for the ring. And yeah, Wiggins is a better fit and the kids need some time.


While I agree with you, Simmons is also just copying what he saw Harden, AD, CP3, Kawhi, Westbrook, Howard, Irving, PG, Butler, etc do. Heck Kareem, Wilt, Kobe, Carmelo, and Vince Carter demanded trades and were not "team friendly" about it so it's not really new.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#164 » by clyde21 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:53 pm

we still talking about Simmons?
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Post#165 » by EvanZ » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:19 pm

The Sixers do not want anything we have outside of Steph.
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Post#166 » by Onus » Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:43 pm

EvanZ wrote:The Sixers do not want anything we have outside of Steph.

They'd take Wiggins, Moody, Kuminga, Wiseman, and 3 1sts ... :lol:
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Post#167 » by FNQ » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:47 pm

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EvanZ wrote:The Sixers do not want anything we have outside of Steph.

They'd take Wiggins, Moody, Kuminga, Wiseman, and 3 1sts ... :lol:


Yeah was gonna say, they made an offer that included a ton of 1sts.. cant imagine Morey's so oblivious that he asked for Steph and multiple 1sts :dontknow:
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Post#168 » by clyde21 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:19 pm

EvanZ wrote:The Sixers do not want anything we have outside of Steph.


that's fine, we don't want anything they have outside Embiid
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Post#169 » by KevinMcreynolds » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:34 pm

if we traded for Simmons I would die a little inside, dude is an f'ing loser
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Post#170 » by sjballer03 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:57 pm

Impuniti wrote:Simmons ghosted his entire team and organization because they said a few mean things about him. I can't see a loser like that fitting in with the Warrior team where your mistakes are pointed out regularly.


But it's Doc and Embiid's fault for being mean to him :cry:

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Post#171 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:12 pm

KevinMcreynolds wrote:if we traded for Simmons I would die a little inside, dude is an f'ing loser


I'd happily have the Warriors trade for Simmons. A 2nd round pick straight up.
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Post#172 » by Scoots1994 » Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:14 pm

sjballer03 wrote:
Impuniti wrote:Simmons ghosted his entire team and organization because they said a few mean things about him. I can't see a loser like that fitting in with the Warrior team where your mistakes are pointed out regularly.


But it's Doc and Embiid's fault for being mean to him :cry:

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I think the person who got it most wrong was Morey. He had a chance to get a decent return for Simmons, but he blew it by being greedy.
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Post#173 » by Onus » Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:14 pm

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EvanZ wrote:The Sixers do not want anything we have outside of Steph.


that's fine, we don't want anything they have outside Embiid

Im surprised you’d want embiid. He brings similar issues that wiseman has but obviously in a more polished package but he doesn’t fit anything that we do.
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Post#174 » by cdubbz » Fri Oct 29, 2021 2:07 am

This might not be the season to trade Wiseman/Kuminga etc. Maybe this off season is the move and we see who is available. Can't see a trade so far this season that puts us over the top for stars at least. Simmons is questionable in terms of fit character wise. Wiggins is better fit too.

Wiseman, Kuminga, Poole or whatever might be enticing for the next star.
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Post#175 » by clyde21 » Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:17 am

per Kerr just now Wise is still not doing any 3v3 and 'quite a ways away from returning'.

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Post#176 » by tarantism » Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:50 am

clyde21 wrote:per Kerr just now Wise is still not doing any 3v3 and 'quite a ways away from returning'.

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I want to see him on the court as much as anybody, but they don't NEED him right now. He doesn't even 100% have a spot in the rotation.
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Re: James Wiseman 2021/2022 

Post#177 » by clyde21 » Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:58 am

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clyde21 wrote:per Kerr just now Wise is still not doing any 3v3 and 'quite a ways away from returning'.

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I want to see him on the court as much as anybody, but they don't NEED him right now. He doesn't even 100% have a spot in the rotation.


i mean yea we don't need him but he's not developing if he's not playing.
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Post#178 » by marthafokker » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:15 am

cdubbz wrote:This might not be the season to trade Wiseman/Kuminga etc. Maybe this off season is the move and we see who is available. Can't see a trade so far this season that puts us over the top for stars at least. Simmons is questionable in terms of fit character wise. Wiggins is better fit too.

Wiseman, Kuminga, Poole or whatever might be enticing for the next star.


I really want PG13. Willing to empty our puppy core for him. Don't think there is much I would swap, unless The Greek Freak wants to be here.
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Post#179 » by ILOVEIT » Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:01 pm

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cdubbz wrote:This might not be the season to trade Wiseman/Kuminga etc. Maybe this off season is the move and we see who is available. Can't see a trade so far this season that puts us over the top for stars at least. Simmons is questionable in terms of fit character wise. Wiggins is better fit too.

Wiseman, Kuminga, Poole or whatever might be enticing for the next star.


I really want PG13. Willing to empty our puppy core for him. Don't think there is much I would swap, unless The Greek Freak wants to be here.


I don't blame you. Of the guys out there that would plug in really well with the Warriors as a two way SF...he'd be it.

Curry, Klay, PG, Green....omg....that's a championship...book it.

I would trade Wiggins, Wiseman, Moody, a future first for him.
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Post#180 » by michaelm » Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:49 pm

Mac1958 wrote:
cdubbz wrote:
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If the Sixers offer Simmons and a 1st for Wiggins do you do it?


If im not giving up Kuminga and Wiseman than yes, but its not an easy choice honestly for me.

Wiggins FITS so well with the team in terms of being the 3rd offensive guy in the starters. Wiggins can hit threes, create his own shot, post up, play defense etc. The fact that Wiggins can be a shooter helps the Warriors so much and his 15-18ppg might be more valuable than Simmons.

Such a tough call.


There's more to Simmons than his terrible shooting. Most athletes would have taken what Rivers said at that press conference as a challenge; he took it as a personal attack and his feelings were oh-so-hurt. Then he was willing to hurt the team by not showing up and being a massive distraction.

I wouldn't want any part of that. Not on a team with this kind of chemistry, a team that is built to compete for the ring. And yeah, Wiggins is a better fit and the kids need some time.

I think his entourage/family and turmoil within that group hasn't helped, and he has copped brutal stuff from the notoriously tough Philadelphia fanbase for years, and while he should ignore that this is not the way is generation rolls; you can bet that like KD he follows social media assiduously. He also seems to have decided he is a superstar while remaining a flawed player, and I am not sure Klutch have greatly benefited him either.

Not withstanding being Australian myself I don't think he is the right character or a good fit for GSW, and I would rather ride out Curry and Dray and their close to telepathic link, and rely on Dray’s heart and him mostly being better in the big games, for however long they have left at the top, hopefully 2 or 3 years.

I haven't been following him but how is Booker going this year ?. He is next in line to be the victim of the Kardashian curse.

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