Toronto Star: Edward Rogers fought plans to keep Raptors’ Masai Ujiri

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I guess he had to call him the N word for it to be obvious ? So why did he call Ujiri to belittle him AFTER business was done ? Stop gaslighting POC.

Maybe he just doesn't like Ujiri, or maybe he does believe him to be arrogant and not worth the money? People in power do that kind of thing all the time, talk down to subordinates who share opposing views to them. Or maybe Ed's just an A-hole who doesn't like people who don't support him 100%, ie his own family. I don't know what was said behind closed doors or their personal relationship or exactly how he feels about POC, but you took ONE picture of him with Trump and have now concluded he's a racist and everything he does is racially motivated. That's a ridiculous conclusion to unilaterally draw. Gaslighting POC? Please. I'm simply looking at the evidence presented and not rushing to any conclusions based on my personal feelings. Again, there is clear evidence that he PERSONALLY called for permission to hire Kenny Williams, a POC, for the Jays presidency which was then held by...a white man. What through and through racist would do that? Are you maybe just ignoring some facts in order to better suit your narrative?

Even if he probably IS a racist, which I'm not denying, I'm simply not willing to draw the direct conclusion that he didn't want Masai as President of the Raptors SOLELY because he's black. Maybe Rogers believed (wrongly) that Masai didn't perform well, or maybe he believes, like many here do, that Masai isn't 100% invested in the Raptors and is more interested in GOA/other jobs?

I took a picture with Doug Ford once. Does that make me a drug addict, or align me in any way with Doug Ford's racial preclusions, whatever they may have been? Does that mean I can't speak ill about drugs now? Does that mean I'm pro-drugs?

You're confusing me with someone else. I've never discussed the picture. But again, why did he call Ujiri to belittle him AFTER BUSINESS was done ? Don't ignore the question, with gaslighting.

Ok, so minus the picture, what evidence do you have that he's a racist, may I ask? I am unaware of any other evidence to this claim. So maybe I'm just missing some info.

If the phone call to Ujiri to belittle him is your sole evidence that he's racist, well, I don't think that'd hold up to ANY sort of logical scrutiny.

And I did offer a potential reason for the call to Ujiri - Ed Rogers is an A-hole and a horrible businessman and leader. I've said as much already. Don't forget, Ed was AGAINST Ujiri's re-hiring from the start. So the fact that he called him after business concluded just shows that his stance didn't change. Why Ed was against Ujiri's re-hiring, I don't know. Maybe racially motivated, maybe not, but I have no strong evidence to suggest that it was racially motivated, so I reject the outright claim that it was.

So I throw it back to you. What evidence is there that Ed is a racist, and how do you reconcile that with his attempt to hire a POC for the Jays President position?

[HiJiNX]

Do I think Ed Rogers is a racist I can't say that with any form of certainty. Do I think he made a classless move to empower himself and put down Masai and his worth, hell yes. Going to the race card only derails the real talking points about this.

Im going to let you in on a Secret. Black people HATE playing the race card. We'll literally look for every reason not to use it before using it because we couldn't believe racism is the real reason for some bull playing out in front of us.

From a Business standpoint Masai oversaw the Raptors most successful tenure that saw them add $500M in value and a Championship into the fold. Masai has had Rivals both within and outside of Basketball trying to poach him...From a business standpoint how do you even begin to think this man isn't worth the money you're paying him?

There's only one reason and it coincides with this fool being a trumper.

He's racist. That can't be ignored and it can't be swept under the rug under the guise of not derailing the conversation.

IT IS THE CONVERSATION.

There's no such thing as the "race card". Racism is simply racism. The "race card" is a way to gaslight POC, making them feel ashamed or guilty of reporting racial discrimination. Stay on task. After making this franchise millions, both in hard cash and equity, and being the best in the league at his job, while getting offered more money, Rogers still didn't want to pay him. If he was a white man and won the leafs a cup, Roger's wouldn't dare try that. Lastly, after giving him the contract, he called Ujiri back, a grow man with a wife and kids to belittle him, saying he's not worth the contract he was given. Yet people have the audacity to say this isn't a racial issue.

Man you know that when we talk about racism on this board that posters act like we are calling THEM racist haha. Nah fam. It ain’t like that. We just calling it what it is. If some don’t wanna see it then it’s either naiveté but more likely that someone has their own blind spots.

Nobody wants to look into the mirror and admit they’re biased against a particular group of people because they know it’s wrong and don’t wanna deal with the feelings so instead they find reasons to distance themselves from a very uncomfortable reality. The thing is, bias can be changed. Recognition is the first step and if more folks were willing to do that we’d have fewer prejudiced adults walking around.

Anyway, Ed Rogers is a walking red flag for racism. To deny this is to live outside reality.

[HiJiNX]

Maybe he just doesn't like Ujiri, or maybe he does believe him to be arrogant and not worth the money? People in power do that kind of thing all the time, talk down to subordinates who share opposing views to them. Or maybe Ed's just an A-hole who doesn't like people who don't support him 100%, ie his own family. I don't know what was said behind closed doors or their personal relationship or exactly how he feels about POC, but you took ONE picture of him with Trump and have now concluded he's a racist and everything he does is racially motivated. That's a ridiculous conclusion to unilaterally draw. Gaslighting POC? Please. I'm simply looking at the evidence presented and not rushing to any conclusions based on my personal feelings. Again, there is clear evidence that he PERSONALLY called for permission to hire Kenny Williams, a POC, for the Jays presidency which was then held by...a white man. What through and through racist would do that? Are you maybe just ignoring some facts in order to better suit your narrative?

Even if he probably IS a racist, which I'm not denying, I'm simply not willing to draw the direct conclusion that he didn't want Masai as President of the Raptors SOLELY because he's black. Maybe Rogers believed (wrongly) that Masai didn't perform well, or maybe he believes, like many here do, that Masai isn't 100% invested in the Raptors and is more interested in GOA/other jobs?

I took a picture with Doug Ford once. Does that make me a drug addict, or align me in any way with Doug Ford's racial preclusions, whatever they may have been? Does that mean I can't speak ill about drugs now? Does that mean I'm pro-drugs?

You're confusing me with someone else. I've never discussed the picture. But again, why did he call Ujiri to belittle him AFTER BUSINESS was done ? Don't ignore the question, with gaslighting.

Ok, so minus the picture, what evidence do you have that he's a racist, may I ask? I am unaware of any other evidence to this claim. So maybe I'm just missing some info.

If the phone call to Ujiri to belittle him is your sole evidence that he's racist, well, I don't think that'd hold up to ANY sort of logical scrutiny.

And I did offer a potential reason for the call to Ujiri - Ed Rogers is an A-hole and a horrible businessman and leader. I've said as much already. Don't forget, Ed was AGAINST Ujiri's re-hiring from the start. So the fact that he called him after business concluded just shows that his stance didn't change. Why Ed was against Ujiri's re-hiring, I don't know. Maybe racially motivated, maybe not, but I have no strong evidence to suggest that it was racially motivated, so I reject the outright claim that it was.

So I throw it back to you. What evidence is there that Ed is a racist, and how do you reconcile that with his attempt to hire a POC for the Jays President position?

Man every time we have the race conversation on this board you’re always asking for EVIDENCE. I mean cmon fam. Open your eyes.

As Black folks, we tend to develop a racism radar throughout life and this dude Ed Rogers is ticking like all the boxes.

And yeah he’s also probably an **** and all the things you listed. He’s probably ALSO racially prejudiced.

You see, racism isn’t about hurt feelings, it’s about power and racists tend to be cool with BIPOC folks when they don’t have power but tend to flex their power when they fell threatened. Just like Ed Rogers did here. Why would he feel threatened? Well due to his own issues of course. I imagine through the likely prejudiced lens of Ed Rogers it probably sucks to see a Black man be more beloved and more valuable in real terms to the company than you are. And he hates that. And will try to make Masai know or to prove it through sabotage. POCs see this sh*t in the workplace all the time.

Now obviously I can’t definitely say Ed Rogers is racist but he’s giving off all the vibes. ALL THE VIBES.

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Do I think Ed Rogers is a racist I can't say that with any form of certainty. Do I think he made a classless move to empower himself and put down Masai and his worth, hell yes. Going to the race card only derails the real talking points about this.

Agreed. People are very quick to call out the -isms these days. There is one truth that we KNOW to be true, and that Ed's a classless businessman who is in the middle of a powerstruggle with his family for RCI. That we know FOR SURE. And that's enough for me to not like the guy, without even having to bring race into question. And for the record, I'm not particularly fond of the rest of the Rogers family either, it's not just Ed.

We can both support Masai's rehiring and ALSO be skeptical of whether or not Ed is a racist, was against Ujiri because he's a POC, and/or called Ujiri to belittle him simply because Ed is a racist POS who doesn't like POC. I don't understand why some posters have it stuck in their head that because I question the evidence that Ed is a racist, that somehow I can ONLY belong to a group that supports Trump/racists. Like, how do these conclusions get drawn, and how does that help the fight for equality that POC and others fight for? Creating enemies out of allies, and calling them names, is a pretty crappy way to forward your agenda or any sort of positive discussion.

It completely closes the door for intellectual conversation and debate because it's simply "my way or the highway", ie anyone who opposes a POC is automatically a racist or supports racists.

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You're confusing me with someone else. I've never discussed the picture. But again, why did he call Ujiri to belittle him AFTER BUSINESS was done ? Don't ignore the question, with gaslighting.

Ok, so minus the picture, what evidence do you have that he's a racist, may I ask? I am unaware of any other evidence to this claim. So maybe I'm just missing some info.

If the phone call to Ujiri to belittle him is your sole evidence that he's racist, well, I don't think that'd hold up to ANY sort of logical scrutiny.

And I did offer a potential reason for the call to Ujiri - Ed Rogers is an A-hole and a horrible businessman and leader. I've said as much already. Don't forget, Ed was AGAINST Ujiri's re-hiring from the start. So the fact that he called him after business concluded just shows that his stance didn't change. Why Ed was against Ujiri's re-hiring, I don't know. Maybe racially motivated, maybe not, but I have no strong evidence to suggest that it was racially motivated, so I reject the outright claim that it was.

So I throw it back to you. What evidence is there that Ed is a racist, and how do you reconcile that with his attempt to hire a POC for the Jays President position?

Man every time we have the race conversation on this board you’re always asking for EVIDENCE. I mean cmon fam. Open your eyes.

As Black folks, we tend to develop a racism radar throughout life and this dude Ed Rogers is ticking like all the boxes.

And yeah he’s also probably an **** and all the things you listed. He’s probably ALSO racially prejudiced.

You see, racism isn’t about hurt feelings, it’s about power and racists tend to be cool with BIPOC folks when they don’t have power but tend to flex their power when they fell threatened. Just like Ed Rogers did here. Why would he feel threatened? Well due to his own issues of course. I imagine through the likely prejudiced lens of Ed Rogers it probably sucks to see a Black man be more beloved and more valuable in real terms to the company than you are. And he hates that. And will try to make Masai know or to prove it through sabotage. POCs see this sh*t in the workplace all the time.

Now obviously I can’t definitely say Ed Rogers is racist but he’s giving off all the vibes. ALL THE VIBES.

I don't disagree with you at all. And I appreciate the approach you took here.
I fully admit that he gives off racist vibes. 100% there with you. Put a gun to my head, and tell me to pick a side or die, I'd guess he probably does have racist tendencies, which I suppose makes him racist. I just can't confidently plant my flag on either side of the fence based on what I know at the moment.

I'm just making my point that given the circumstances with RCI's internal feud, and what we know from this story about Masai, I can't bring myself to logically conclude that Ed is 100% a racist through and through. The Kenny Williams story gives me some pause in this regard.

With regards to the point about people in power feeling threatened, I can agree with that too. But I DO believe that this threatened feeling/jealousy over a subordinate suceeding would also extend to a white subordinate. I just believe that people at the top always want the credit, and don't like it when they're not fangirled and fanboyed over in the same way their subordinates are. That's not to say it's not potentially racially motivated too in this case, but I don't believe it to be the sole reason, if it is one.

[DG88]

Do I think Ed Rogers is a racist I can't say that with any form of certainty. Do I think he made a classless move to empower himself and put down Masai and his worth, hell yes. Going to the race card only derails the real talking points about this.

Agreed. People are very quick to call out the -isms these days. There is one truth that we KNOW to be true, and that Ed's a classless businessman who is in the middle of a powerstruggle with his family for RCI. That we know FOR SURE. And that's enough for me to not like the guy, without even having to bring race into question. And for the record, I'm not particularly fond of the rest of the Rogers family either, it's not just Ed.

We can both support Masai's rehiring and ALSO be skeptical of whether or not Ed is a racist, was against Ujiri because he's a POC, and/or called Ujiri to belittle him simply because Ed is a racist POS who doesn't like POC. I don't understand why some posters have it stuck in their head that because I question the evidence that Ed is a racist, that somehow I can ONLY belong to a group that supports Trump/racists. Like, how do these conclusions get drawn, and how does that help the fight for equality that POC and others fight for? Creating enemies out of allies, and calling them names, is a pretty crappy way to forward your agenda or any sort of positive discussion.

It completely closes the door for intellectual conversation and debate because it's simply "my way or the highway", ie anyone who opposes a POC is automatically a racist or supports racists.

We live in a world where opinion is fact and if you don't agree with someone's opinion you are pariah.

[guvernator]

The stream of clownish takes on this board...Yeah, any other rich guy would agree to simply hand out 15 mil/per PLUS 3% of 2.5 billion (at current valuation) for a figurehead... GTFO.
Masai is a politician playing the role of a sports exec at the moment and hes got a sizeable population of fools eating out of his hand.
And if Bell tried to back stab rogers in this fiasco, TSN can forget about Jays content, forever. And about the expos thing...No freaking way Rogers/Jays are getting on board with that.

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The stream of clownish takes on this board...Yeah, any other rich guy would agree to simply hand out 15 mil/per PLUS 3% of 2.5 billion (at current valuation) for a figurehead... GTFO.
Masai is a politician playing the role of a sports exec at the moment and hes got a sizeable population of fools eating out of his hand.
And if Bell tried to back stab rogers in this fiasco, TSN can forget about Jays content, forever. And about the expos thing...No freaking way Rogers/Jays are getting on board with that.

1. I'm pretty sure it's 3% of "increased value" but may be wrong
2. Larry T - a rich guy - did agree
3. Other rich guys who own other franchises also offered the same

I really hope some of this money Masai got is yours, because you love counting it.

[maternal85]

The stream of clownish takes on this board...Yeah, any other rich guy would agree to simply hand out 15 mil/per PLUS 3% of 2.5 billion (at current valuation) for a figurehead... GTFO.
Masai is a politician playing the role of a sports exec at the moment and hes got a sizeable population of fools eating out of his hand.
And if Bell tried to back stab rogers in this fiasco, TSN can forget about Jays content, forever. And about the expos thing...No freaking way Rogers/Jays are getting on board with that.

The racial gaslighting continues. Hand out 15 million ? Do you know how business works ? MU services has gained them MILLIONS in liquid cash and equity. Take away Tampa and this year (the year is not done), since MU came back, he has the highest winning percentage in the league, we were a lock to make the 2nd round of the playoffs at least each year. The Wizard sweep and BK series loss were the only ones. 2 conference finals, 1 NBA finals, and 1 CHAMPIONSHIP. The revenue generated in those 7 years with playoff appearances, TV viewership going up, merchandise sales, etc. MU has made this team hundreds of millions in terms of revenue and equity I'm sure. He's not handing out anything. MU DESERVES IT !! Every dollar he spends, MLSE gets back like 4. Making your employer money is not a hand out. GTFO

This man has built the best development/ farm team in the league. He has won a CHAMPIONSHIP, despite no major FA wanting to sign in Canada. He presents himself as a true professional, always cleaned saved. Brought respect to the team, BOTH on and off the floor. Now when we draft young players they're on TV dancing. It wasn't always like that. Despite how successful he becomes, despite him being at a bigger disadvantage than his peers (having an NBA team in Canada) he's not appreciated and still gets treated like a (you know the word)

Just look at the top GM/Presidents in the league.

Pat Riley 11 million. Take him away from Florida and low taxes, he won't win jack.

Bufford 9 million with the Spurs. What has he done since Duncan left ?

Myers with GS, 8 million. MU would win more titles with the talent he has had for years.

Did people question Phil Jackson when he was making over 10 million with the Knicks ? What did he accomplish ?

MU isn't worth 15 million ? He's even underpaid. Stop the nonsense.

[guvernator]

The stream of clownish takes on this board...Yeah, any other rich guy would agree to simply hand out 15 mil/per PLUS 3% of 2.5 billion (at current valuation) for a figurehead... GTFO.
Masai is a politician playing the role of a sports exec at the moment and hes got a sizeable population of fools eating out of his hand.
And if Bell tried to back stab rogers in this fiasco, TSN can forget about Jays content, forever. And about the expos thing...No freaking way Rogers/Jays are getting on board with that.

1. I'm pretty sure it's 3% of "increased value" but may be wrong
2. Larry T - a rich guy - did agree
3. Other rich guys who own other franchises also offered the same

I really hope some of this money Masai got is yours, because you love counting it.

Negotiations wouldn't have taken a gazillion years if LT and Bell were so eager to agree to Masai's ask. Rogers' foot-in-mouth issue forced them to agree.

[6ixpessant]

A vast majority love Masai, but some dont - i dont understand why that is hard to believe. Masai isnt perfect but he is damn close to it my eyes. There isnt 1 executive out there that has 100% support. Some people may not like Masai, and it doesnt have to be about race. In fact it was outlined in the article, it was about money and ego. Plus he wanted a Japanese-American to run the Raptors.

If Rogers doesnt like minorities, he is doing a bad job of showing it because if he had his way 2 of the 3 sports teams in Toronto would have an African-American and a Japanese-American in charge.

While this story may have nothing to do with race... And I hope to hell it doesn't. Suggesting employing POC is currency for not being a racist is wrong. If you need a case study, Donald Sterling.

[guvernator]

The stream of clownish takes on this board...Yeah, any other rich guy would agree to simply hand out 15 mil/per PLUS 3% of 2.5 billion (at current valuation) for a figurehead... GTFO.
Masai is a politician playing the role of a sports exec at the moment and hes got a sizeable population of fools eating out of his hand.
And if Bell tried to back stab rogers in this fiasco, TSN can forget about Jays content, forever. And about the expos thing...No freaking way Rogers/Jays are getting on board with that.

The racial gaslighting continues. Hand out 15 million ? Do you know how business works ? MU services has gained them MILLIONS in liquid cash and equity. Take away Tampa and this year (the year is not done), since MU came back, he has the highest winning percentage in the league, we were a lock to make the 2nd round of the playoffs at least each year. The Wizard sweep and BK series loss were the only ones. 2 conference finals, 1 NBA finals, and 1 CHAMPIONSHIP. The revenue generated in those 7 years with playoff appearances, TV viewership going up, merchandise sales, etc. MU has made this team hundreds of millions in terms of revenue and equity I'm sure. He's not handing out anything. MU DESERVES IT !! Every dollar he spends, MLSE gets back like 4. Making your employer money is not a hand out. GTFO

This man has built the best development/ farm team in the league. He has won a CHAMPIONSHIP, despite no major FA wanting to sign in Canada. He presents himself as a true professional, always cleaned saved. Brought respect to the team, BOTH on and off the floor. Now when we draft young players they're on TV dancing. It wasn't always like that. Despite how successful he becomes, despite him being at a bigger disadvantage than his peers (having an NBA team in Canada) he's not appreciated and still gets treated like a (you know the word)

Just look at the top GM/Presidents in the league.

Pat Riley 11 million. Take him away from Florida and low taxes, he won't win jack.

Bufford 9 million with the Spurs. What has he done since Duncan left ?

Myers with GS, 8 million. MU would win more titles with the talent he has had for years.

Did people question Phil Jackson when he was making over 10 million with the Knicks ? What did he accomplish ?

MU isn't worth 15 million ? He's even underpaid. Stop the nonsense.

Right... Kyle, Demar were getting their almost 30 million paychecks for **** and giggles. Did Kawhi ever play for the raptors or am I imagining? MASAI did this...
I'm not here to dunk on you, so don't make me the villain. Understand the snake oil that is being sold here. Or not.
In 2 years, most of this board will have their pitchforks ready anyways...I'll be sure to resurrect this thread then.

[YelloC]

What I get from Ed Rogers telling Masai he wasn’t worth what he got is Ed seems like the type that would be diametrically opposed to a lot of the things that Masai champions/stands for.
Rogers as an entity is a driver of poverty with regards to the obscene rates that they charge. Their whole business mantra is to take whatever is left after rent/mortgage and necessities.

[maternal85]

The stream of clownish takes on this board...Yeah, any other rich guy would agree to simply hand out 15 mil/per PLUS 3% of 2.5 billion (at current valuation) for a figurehead... GTFO.
Masai is a politician playing the role of a sports exec at the moment and hes got a sizeable population of fools eating out of his hand.
And if Bell tried to back stab rogers in this fiasco, TSN can forget about Jays content, forever. And about the expos thing...No freaking way Rogers/Jays are getting on board with that.

The racial gaslighting continues. Hand out 15 million ? Do you know how business works ? MU services has gained them MILLIONS in liquid cash and equity. Take away Tampa and this year (the year is not done), since MU came back, he has the highest winning percentage in the league, we were a lock to make the 2nd round of the playoffs at least each year. The Wizard sweep and BK series loss were the only ones. 2 conference finals, 1 NBA finals, and 1 CHAMPIONSHIP. The revenue generated in those 7 years with playoff appearances, TV viewership going up, merchandise sales, etc. MU has made this team hundreds of millions in terms of revenue and equity I'm sure. He's not handing out anything. MU DESERVES IT !! Every dollar he spends, MLSE gets back like 4. Making your employer money is not a hand out. GTFO

This man has built the best development/ farm team in the league. He has won a CHAMPIONSHIP, despite no major FA wanting to sign in Canada. He presents himself as a true professional, always cleaned saved. Brought respect to the team, BOTH on and off the floor. Now when we draft young players they're on TV dancing. It wasn't always like that. Despite how successful he becomes, despite him being at a bigger disadvantage than his peers (having an NBA team in Canada) he's not appreciated and still gets treated like a (you know the word)

Just look at the top GM/Presidents in the league.

Pat Riley 11 million. Take him away from Florida and low taxes, he won't win jack.

Bufford 9 million with the Spurs. What has he done since Duncan left ?

Myers with GS, 8 million. MU would win more titles with the talent he has had for years.

Did people question Phil Jackson when he was making over 10 million with the Knicks ? What did he accomplish ?

MU isn't worth 15 million ? He's even underpaid. Stop the nonsense.

Right... Kyle, Demar were getting their almost 30 million paychecks for **** and giggles. Did Kawhi ever play for the raptors or am I imagining? MASAI did this...
I'm not here to dunk on you, so don't make me the villain. Understand the snake oil that is being sold here. Or not.
In 2 years, most of this board will have their pitchforks ready anyways...I'll be sure to resurrect this thread then.

I'm grown. Say what you want to say. So Kyle and Demar taking this team far in the playoffs didn't make them money ? Were the Raptors losing money each year ? Or you want them to work for free, like the old days ? Or certain people making millions bothers
you? Because nobody complains when the owners make their millions. Do you know how business works ?

[DelAbbot]

Who the hell posted Roger Stone's picture? Now when I scroll RealGM on mobile there is a full screen picture of that repulsive pos.

[ItsDanger]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/194739/franchise-value-of-the-toronto-raptors/

Based on Forbes estimate in USD. Lets take valuation (I'm sure contract has its own methodology) over average 5 yr period since MLSE purchase in 2011/12. Assuming 3% is appreciation of FMV of Raptors since mid 2021, then Masai could conceivably earn up to $21/22M per year after the 5 year term is done. I assume his $15M is in USD.

Thats a very good deal. But surely repeatedly comparing the $15M is misleading when you omit the FMV appreciation component? I'd also mention we don't even know the real final details or what Masai even asked for. Maybe he asked for 5% & $22M per year. Who knows. Masai is an adult and business isn't always what you think it is. I'd keep this in context with your opinions.

[Kingsway_fan]

The guy is a blatant racist and as long as he is a part of blue jays I will not attend any of their games either.

[Kingsway_fan]

The guy is a blatant racist and as long as he is a part of blue jays I will not attend any of their games either.

[Dennis 37]

Spoiler:

So much to unpack ...

What better offers were on the table for Lowry/Ibaka/Gasol?

What makes Precious "mediocre" (he's averaging 11/11/2) ?

How would overpaying for Dinwiddie/Holmes have helped our future/cap ?

Are you not excited by Banton at all ?

The Birch signing made perfect sense (positional need, wants to be here), you just wish it was a few mill less.

You're upset about the GTJ contract because of his age ? Huh ? That's literally the best part of the deal.

Spoiler:

Being "over the cap" is meaningless till Game 82. We will not be over the cap.

Dragic isn't a "paperweight" unless we get nothing for him. Until then, he's still an asset.

So basically ... you're upset we locked up our own core, you're upset we didn't lock up other expensive FA's, you're upset we didn't pursue SnT's we have no proof existed & you're upset that everybody else's youth is better than ours.

Dude ... we've been in every game so far, without our best player. If you can't see the potential (and think we'd have been better off being capped out with Holmes/Dinwiddie), all I can say is, keep watching.

The GTJ contract is not a problem because of age or amount, but length. When you give that much money, at that age, you lock up for more years. 3 plus a team option was what was needed. Do we really want to have to pay him more 21 months from now?

Having said that, of course Masai is worth his money.

On another note is Drake, as the team's ambassador, still a thing?