2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

[DelAbbot]

I wonder if Boucher could get us Reddish

no way! Reddish has been playing way too good!

Yeah maybe last deadline Boucher could have gotten us Reddish.

Now Boucher losing mins, and Reddish has broken out.

[God Squad]

The three trade targets I would try to get if I was Toronto are Dejounte Murray, Jakob Poeltl and Myles Turner. Both Turner and Jakob Poeltl help Toronto gain legit size up front. Dejounte Murray gives Toronto a guy they could pair very nicely with Gary Trent Jr or Scottie Barnes.

I would LOVE Jakob back on the Raps. I hated seeing him go. Honestly I'd be down for all of the guys mentioned. I just don't know how it'd be possible with our main trade pieces being Bouch, Flynn and Dragic. I'm not sure Masai is really even thinking about trading Pascal or FVV. Most likely option would be a small trade, and then just let the chips fall where they may.

[h4rrison]

The three trade targets I would try to get if I was Toronto are Dejounte Murray, Jakob Poeltl and Myles Turner. Both Turner and Jakob Poeltl help Toronto gain legit size up front. Dejounte Murray gives Toronto a guy they could pair very nicely with Gary Trent Jr or Scottie Barnes.

Out of those guys, I like Poeltl. He's on the cheapest deal and we have history

YAK & SKILLZ reunion?

[PT416]

Bruh I would trade Yak for Siakam in a heartbeat. He's averaging 16-11 so far on 72% shooting. He was the main piece of the bench mob and the most talented out of them. He's a much better fit for us and it might even be a better fit for them having a creator like Siakam. But if we can get away with keeping Siakam and trading Fred for Jakob, that would be insane. With picks, whatever I dont care.

Barnes / Trent / OG / Siakam / Poeltl

Or if we actually care about winning, literally bring in Yuta.

Barnes / OG / Yuta / Siakam / Poeltl. Imagine the energy, defence and cohesiveness of that lineup. Especially if Siakam buys in.

[Rapsfan07]

Bruh I would trade Yak for Siakam in a heartbeat. He's averaging 16-11 so far on 72% shooting. He was the main piece of the bench mob and the most talented out of them. He's a much better fit for us and it might even be a better fit for them having a creator like Siakam. But if we can get away with keeping Siakam and trading Fred for Jakob, that would be insane. With picks, whatever I dont care.

Barnes / Trent / OG / Siakam / Poeltl

Or if we actually care about winning, literally bring in Yuta.

Barnes / OG / Yuta / Siakam / Poeltl. Imagine the energy, defence and cohesiveness of that lineup. Especially if Siakam buys in.

I just don't see the point. This team isn't going to win anything so why bother?

If we're going to trade our vets, better to deal them for young guys who we can build for the future with instead.

[DreamTeam09]

Svi + 2023 protected 1st for Bol Bol

Its' going to be hard to get value for Bol Bol from denver with his cheap salary. Getting a 1st for someone they drafted in the 2nd should be seen as a win for them.

Bol Bol can replace Boucher for us and possibly play more of the 5 for us as well. I really would like a player who has a chance to breakout still for us

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Poetl would do wonders for our defense and rebounding. Can't shoot still but hes a better finisher than Birch and can actually protect the rim with the best of them

[Morris_Shatford]

Svi + 2023 protected 1st for Bol Bol

Its' going to be hard to get value for Bol Bol from denver with his cheap salary. Getting a 1st for someone they drafted in the 2nd should be seen as a win for them.

Bol Bol can replace Boucher for us and possibly play more of the 5 for us as well. I really would like a player who has a chance to breakout still for us

I don't think Bol Bol costs you a first;
He is an RFA this summer and unless the folks in Denver just love the kid I don't think he gets more than his QO this summer assuming they want to retain him.

[DreamTeam09]

Svi + 2023 protected 1st for Bol Bol

Its' going to be hard to get value for Bol Bol from denver with his cheap salary. Getting a 1st for someone they drafted in the 2nd should be seen as a win for them.

Bol Bol can replace Boucher for us and possibly play more of the 5 for us as well. I really would like a player who has a chance to breakout still for us

I don't think Bol Bol costs you a first;
He is an RFA this summer and unless the folks in Denver just love the kid I don't think he gets more than his QO this summer assuming they want to retain him long term.

In my eyes, Bol Bol is someone you target with the hopes of a breakout season. I could see someone offering him a poison pill contract that makes Denver balk at resigning him. I could definitely be higher than him than anyone else for that matter as well. If I was denver though, I wouldn't trade him for some 2nds, might as well keep him or even risk the poison pill contract. A first would spark some interest in me for a player that's currently not in rotation for them and possibly due for a raise soon enough.

[Morris_Shatford]

In my eyes, Bol Bol is someone you target with the hopes of a breakout season. I could see someone offering him a poison pill contract that makes Denver balk at resigning him. I could definitely be higher than him than anyone else for that matter as well. If I was denver though, I wouldn't trade him for some 2nds, might as well keep him or even risk the poison pill contract. A first would spark some interest in me for a player that's currently not in rotation for them and possibly due for a raise soon enough.

The measurements and the pedigree are most certainly present.

The weight is a concern as for guys over 7' Bol Bol is 220lbs, while Pokusevski comes in at a feather like 190lbs the next lightest guy over seven feet is Mo Bamba who is 231 and 2" shorter.

However that can be worked on and I fully understand the "potential" aspect you see in the kid.
If the work ethic is there we certainly have some success in developing prospects.

Would have no issue rolling the dice on him but I suspect if the Nuggets are nearing the deadline and have little interest in retaining him in the summer or are concerned someone would "Birch" him then I could see them flipping him for a second. I think if we offered a first right now I think most Denver fans would happily take it.

[PT416]

Bruh I would trade Yak for Siakam in a heartbeat. He's averaging 16-11 so far on 72% shooting. He was the main piece of the bench mob and the most talented out of them. He's a much better fit for us and it might even be a better fit for them having a creator like Siakam. But if we can get away with keeping Siakam and trading Fred for Jakob, that would be insane. With picks, whatever I dont care.

Barnes / Trent / OG / Siakam / Poeltl

Or if we actually care about winning, literally bring in Yuta.

Barnes / OG / Yuta / Siakam / Poeltl. Imagine the energy, defence and cohesiveness of that lineup. Especially if Siakam buys in.

I just don't see the point. This team isn't going to win anything so why bother?

If we're going to trade our vets, better to deal them for young guys who we can build for the future with instead.

I can see that team winning a lot. Elite on defence, elite efficiency, but spurs aren’t gonna get fleeced twice.

[Bruin]

If it were doable I’d trade pascal and Fred for Dejounte and Poeltl

[Rapsfan07]

Bruh I would trade Yak for Siakam in a heartbeat. He's averaging 16-11 so far on 72% shooting. He was the main piece of the bench mob and the most talented out of them. He's a much better fit for us and it might even be a better fit for them having a creator like Siakam. But if we can get away with keeping Siakam and trading Fred for Jakob, that would be insane. With picks, whatever I dont care.

Barnes / Trent / OG / Siakam / Poeltl

Or if we actually care about winning, literally bring in Yuta.

Barnes / OG / Yuta / Siakam / Poeltl. Imagine the energy, defence and cohesiveness of that lineup. Especially if Siakam buys in.

I just don't see the point. This team isn't going to win anything so why bother?

If we're going to trade our vets, better to deal them for young guys who we can build for the future with instead.

I can see that team winning a lot. Elite on defence, elite efficiency, but spurs aren’t gonna get fleeced twice.

Nobody on that team can create their own shot reliably and OG is the only above average 3pt shooter (on volume) in that lineup.

[Rapsfan07]

If it were doable I’d trade pascal and Fred for Dejounte and Poeltl

This is pretty bad. I love me some Murray but our best two players, one of which is an all star two way PF for those guys?

I'd like to think we can do better

[Saul Goodman]

Flynn
Boucher


For


Derrick Jones JR
2022 Portland 1st
2022 Chicago 2nd



Give Masai as many picks as we possibly can. Flynn looks like he’s been lapped on the depth chart by Banton.

[DelAbbot]

If it were doable I’d trade pascal and Fred for Dejounte and Poeltl

Pascal for Dejounte and Poeltl is fair. No need to add FVV.

[Bruin]

If it were doable I’d trade pascal and Fred for Dejounte and Poeltl

Pascal for Dejounte and Poeltl is fair. No need to add FVV.

I don’t think Spurs would do it even with Fred. Adding Pascal and Fred isn’t gonna get them anywhere and they’d be getting older

Also Dejounte has looked great so far this year. Maybe an MIP contender

[DelAbbot]

If it were doable I’d trade pascal and Fred for Dejounte and Poeltl

Pascal for Dejounte and Poeltl is fair. No need to add FVV.

I don’t think Spurs would do it even with Fred. Adding Pascal and Fred isn’t gonna get them anywhere and they’d be getting older

Also Dejounte has looked great so far this year. Maybe an MIP contender

Dejounte may be breaking out but Poeltl is a role player. Pascal made all nba before and can get back to that level. When he does he will definitely be enough to fetch Dejounte and Poeltl on his own.

[C-R-E-A-M-]

Mo Bamba

[Ell Curry]

IF we keep FVV and Siakam and assume the plan is to go smaller at the 5, the core of the team going forward is starting to take shape: when you look at minutes:

Fred - 38
OG - 34
Barnes 34
Trent 33
Achiuwa 26
Birch 20
Dragic 16
Svi 15
Boucher 12
Banton 7

If we give the Boucher and Birch minutes and 3 of Fred's minutes to Siakam that puts it like this:

Fred - 35
Siakam 35
OG 34
Barnes 34
Trent 33
Achiuwa 26
Dragic + Svi + Birch + Banton 38

So, Option 1:

The 2022 first rounder presumably goes to a wing shooter or guard to replace say 20-25 of the Dragic + Svi minutes, with Banton taking the rest.

Achiuwa/Barnes/someone tall
Siakam/Barnes
OG/Barnes
Trent/2022 1st
VanVleet/Banton

Obviously Barnes would still start but that shows playing time and roles more.

Option 2:

If we want a proper full-time center and to play Banton as the backup PG and OG a fair amount at the 2 instead we could also draft a proper center to take the minute Birch now takes.

If you look at it that way it's starting to feel like we have 6 guys we like and their roles are as follows:

Achiuwa/2022 1st
Siakam/Barnes
Barnes/OG
OG/Trent
VanVleet/Banton

and Banton will fill one spot (with people sliding accordingly if we want more shooting/creation and he's not just the backup 1) with the 2022 pick hopefully being another good pick and filling that spot.

Option 3:

We take another forward with size and skill and if they do hit, play all 4 of Siakam, Barnes, OG and that pick and depending on the matchup and who's playing well the 5th guy is another longboi, a traditional center or Van Vleet.