No MVP+Finals MVP Draft (1990-2009) - Discussion thread

damecurry · Post #41 » by **damecurry** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:31 pm

I think it should be snakes turn. Heat had most of the day and we're not that far from 9pm est which was only a typo. Time to keep things moving imo

Dr Positivity · Post #42 » by **Dr Positivity** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:32 pm

Snakebites wrote:Wait is it my turn now?

You can pick

Post #43 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:47 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Wait is it my turn now?

You can pick

You now.

TMAC/Ginobili

I wanted TMAC- he's got a case to make as the best wing in this pool in a one year peak, but I needed Ginobili to pair with him to make it economically viable. That actually isn't an absurdly expensive wing-duo- it gives me what I expect to be the best wing pair at 35 FGA, and the other 3 starting positions have the potential to be relatively cheap.

Of course, if I couldn't get TMAC I'd have been perfectly content with a couple of other options- ultimately losing out on TMAC was less risky than losing out on Ginobili.

I think you could also argue with merit that TMAC is more valuable in a game without the best guys.

Post #44 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:03 pm

Even if Heat shows up right now he can still draft a pretty viable pair IMO.

damecurry · Post #45 » by **damecurry** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:14 pm

There are two bigs in particular I'm pretty shocked to see still on the board right now. That position significantly drops off after those two imo so I'm surprised they're slipping. Kinda surprised Dwight went before them, people are being more economical early than I expected in a draft without the top tier. Thought people would be eager to spend FGA in attempt for top tier talent, not really been the case.

Dr Positivity · Post #46 » by **Dr Positivity** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:35 pm

damecurry wrote:There are two bigs in particular I'm pretty shocked to see still on the board right now. That position significantly drops off after those two imo so I'm surprised they're slipping. Kinda surprised Dwight went before them, people are being more economical early than I expected in a draft without the top tier. Thought people would be eager to spend FGA in attempt for top tier talent, not really been the case.

I like the other center slightly more than Dwight, but in addition to costing more, I also think Dwight is a better fit for Paul

Dr Positivity · Post #47 » by **Dr Positivity** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:46 pm

Could use Heat to show up and take the best PG and best C off the board before Bird and Fadeaway get to them...

damecurry · Post #48 » by **damecurry** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:48 pm

Wow, Zo was one of the guys I was thinking of but the other one is arguably a top 3 big in the whole draft and remains on the board. Edit: Bird snatched him up right quick haha. Ewing fell way too far imo, should've been 1st round. Not sure I love the Chuck/Pat fit but if he can find some shooting around them the talent is undeniable.

Post #49 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:50 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:Could use Heat to show up and take the best PG and best C off the board before Bird and Fadeaway get to them...

Yeah him not turning up is really going to change this draft in favor of the middle drafters.

Post #50 » by **Snakebites** » Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:52 pm

damecurry wrote:Wow, Zo was one of the guys I was thinking of but the other one is arguably a top 3 big in the whole draft and remains on the board. Edit: Bird snatched him up right quick haha. Ewing fell way too far imo, should've been 1st round. Not sure I love the Chuck/Pat fit but if he can find some shooting around them the talent is undeniable.

It’s okay. You’re building this original Monstars. You should be able to wait on Mugsey Bogues until round 8 though.

Laimbeer · Post #51 » by **Laimbeer** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:02 am

I'd have gone Dwight if he was there. Not sure there's enough of a gap among those three to justify the FGA difference. Ewing does have some excellent, cheaper seasons in the 1980's - but 18.4 is about as good as you'll do with him in this.

migya · Post #52 » by **migya** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:16 am

Had to go Mutombo, the Center pool is that small. He is arguably the best defensive Center anyway and scores in double figures.

migya · Post #53 » by **migya** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:30 am

What does everyone think of Mutombo's best season? I think 94 he was a monster in the playoffs that that is probably his best season. He was younger than in 2001 and though he didn't get dpoy it was arguably his best playoff performance.

Post #54 » by **Fadeaway_J** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:15 am

Colbinii wrote:.

Up

Colbinii · Post #55 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:55 am

Snakebites wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Wait is it my turn now?

You can pick

You now.

TMAC/Ginobili

I wanted TMAC- he's got a case to make as the best wing in this pool in a one year peak, but I needed Ginobili to pair with him to make it economically viable. That actually isn't an absurdly expensive wing-duo- it gives me what I expect to be the best wing pair at 35 FGA, and the other 3 starting positions have the potential to be relatively cheap.

Of course, if I couldn't get TMAC I'd have been perfectly content with a couple of other options- ultimately losing out on TMAC was less risky than losing out on Ginobili.

I think you could also argue with merit that TMAC is more valuable in a game without the best guys.

You're up.

Yeah T Mac was the guy I was saying was a clear top 8 guy and could be argued as best wing in game.

Post #56 » by **Fadeaway_J** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:52 am

Man I was hoping Bird would take Nash instead of Ewing.

Post #57 » by **Snakebites** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:55 am

Honestly I'd probably win more of these if I didn't just decide to go off the rails every now and again.

Any two of these guys would work great, but three is just overkill.

And yet...

Colbinii · Post #58 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:58 am

Snakebites wrote:Honestly I'd probably win more of these if I didn't just decide to go off the rails every now and again.

Any two of these guys would work great, but three is just overkill.

And yet...

Looks like the bottom of the draft was the hot spot!

Dr Positivity · Post #59 » by **Dr Positivity** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:59 am

Snake just had to go weird...

Post #60 » by **Snakebites** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:11 am

Colbinii wrote:
Snakebites wrote:Honestly I'd probably win more of these if I didn't just decide to go off the rails every now and again.

Any two of these guys would work great, but three is just overkill.

And yet...

Looks like the bottom of the draft was the hot spot!

I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t influenced by not wanting him to fall further…