Post-Game Notes: WAS 116, BOS 107 (2-3)

[FlatearthZorro]

My god we as fans are pathetic.

New coach
Roster overhaul
Positional changes


And people bitching relentlessless and pointing blame on individual players.

It has been 5 games.


5 games

This is such a tired narrative. We just haven't looked good- our coach looks lost, Smart has been complete trash(useless basically), Brown and Tatum have been on and off. It's facts, not just making something up.

[jfs1000d]

I don’t like how the ball isn’t in the ha fe if Tatum enough.

That said, hate the defense mods. We made Harrell look like Karl Malone.


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[ballup]

Was only able to catch the 2nd half. A couple of tough floaters by Holiday and pull up 3s by Dinwiddie sealed it.

Schroeder has become better and showed a bit of Rondo-ness during his drives.

We have to come to reality that this team isn't a bonafide top 4 in the east. The middle of the pack in the east has gotten better and we can't expect easy wins outside of the bottom feeders.

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[The_Ghost_of_JB]

I don't understand why smart continues to get a pass for his shooting either. Just because he makes "winning plays" people just completely forget about his horrendous shooting throughout the game.

I think if this was any other player shooting this poorly they'd be all over them yet it's okay for Smart to shoot 25%.

[Fierce1]

Milwaukee was the #1 seed and favorites to end up in the Finals in 2019.
But they got bounced by Toronto.

The following season, Miami basically swept them in the semis.

It was only when the Bucks got rid of Bledsoe and went all in on Jrue that the Bucks were able to get to the Finals and win a championship.

Same thing with the Suns.
The Suns weren't even a playoff team in 2020.

In 2021 they made it to the Finals.
And the reason for that is the addition of a star PG, CP3.

A talented team with multiple star players can get away with having a PG like Derek Fisher.
But there's just no way a team can be a championship team if the starting PG is just shooting 25.5% from the field.

It's time to wake up.

Marcus Smart has only shot 40%, or better, once his entire NBA career!
This is Smart's 8th season.

If Ime or Brad doesn't have the guts to do something about Smart, the Celts will become the Blazers of the east.

Udoka needs to limit Smart 28 minutes per game, off the bench.

Even better if Brad can package Smart with some of the young players and draft picks for real starting Guard.

[radcot]

Really wanted the Celtics to pick up Harrell this off-season. He is a fierce competitor and a beast in the paint. He killed us in this game. Can't understand why he hasn't stuck with one team. As to the C's, they obviously have not looked good so far and that's disappointing, but I'm still optimistic that things will come together. Brown will recover greater consistency. He's too good not to. Smart is clearly not right physically. He's not a good shooter, but he's not 16 per cent bad. Got to get Pritch and Nee more minutes. We need their shooting.

[darrendaye]

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[Triple7]

Milwaukee was the #1 seed and favorites to end up in the Finals in 2019.
But they got bounced by Toronto.

The following season, Miami basically swept them in the semis.

It was only when the Bucks got rid of Bledsoe and went all in on Jrue that the Bucks were able to get to the Finals and win a championship.

Same thing with the Suns.
The Suns weren't even a playoff team in 2020.

In 2021 they made it to the Finals.
And the reason for that is the addition of a star PG, CP3.

A talented team with multiple star players can get away with having a PG like Derek Fisher.
But there's just no way a team can be a championship team if the starting PG is just shooting 25.5% from the field.

It's time to wake up.

Marcus Smart has only shot 40%, or better, once his entire NBA career!
This is Smart's 8th season.

If Ime or Brad doesn't have the guts to do something about Smart, the Celts will become the Blazers of the east.

Udoka needs to limit Smart 28 minutes per game, off the bench.

Even better if Brad can package Smart with some of the young players and draft picks for real starting Guard.

I don’t think Ime has it in him to play the right players for us to win. Steve Kerr did that. Benching David Lee, a former all nba, all star player still in his prime, for an up and coming Draymond Green. He knew that was the best for the team, disregarding if feeling would get hurt. After that, they took off as a team. Smart needs to go to the bench. He doesn’t need to play on closing minutes, if he is playing bad. Ime should have the guts to do that. I don’t care what he says after. All of that are cheap talks and no action. If we are losing despite a better roster, to weaker teams, then there is a problem with lineups and rotations. Try sonething different.

[Triple7]

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Never really recovered from covid is bull ****. The guy scored 60 after covid. He played in the olympics lol. It’s definitely not that.

[GoCeltics123]

Fire ImE already. That guy doesn’t know what he’s doing. We should have traded Smart. Dennis and Marcus together won’t work. Not enough shooters to finish games.

As I sixers fan I came in when you guys hired him, warning you all that he wasn't this great coach, and his defensive schemes (which included Horford) where mind bogglingly bad. Now hopefully some of you can see my point. Still think he's a better coach than Glenn Rivers though lol.

I mean, he's citing that Dennis and Smart hasn't worked when it's statistically been part of our best lineup, so flexing your muscle about Ime on that note is dumb dude

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Smart stars
7-4-4 25% shooting

Dennis schroder
16-4-6 40% shooting.

I'm sure some people will pull some advanced stats nonsense but looking at the difference between the two why would smart continue to start? If you have a guy that is a better shooter and equal rebounder and a better distributor why would you not start him considering how many times this team has a slow start?

[FeedReed]

I thought JT had this moments keeping this team in the game, but he is far from a leader. Disappeared in the do 4th. Smart annoyed me per usual.

Tonight was a gut check for Jaylen. I am a big fan of his but this was a terrible look for him tonight. If he doesn't wake up there's going to be a big shake up coming with his name on it

tatum is 23, everyone doesn't have to lead the same way. you can lead a horse to water...

everybody agrees that Al is a leader and yet we fell apart in that kyrie season with him. sometimes being a good leader isn't all it takes. we don't know what happens behind the scenes.

he is an anti leader. i get it, nba players are entitled, it's the aau era or whatever you call it. tatum is an extreme case. even by today's standards, he's more of an entitled brat than 99.99%. if that play at the end of the first half last night(crying to the ref over the no call after rob finished his missed layup) didn't turn people off to him, i don't know what will. it spoke volumes. tatum and smart need to go. start over.

[fallguy]

Smart stars
7-4-4 25% shooting

Dennis schroder
16-4-6 40% shooting.

I'm sure some people will pull some advanced stats nonsense but looking at the difference between the two why would smart continue to start? If you have a guy that is a better shooter and equal rebounder and a better distributor why would you not start him considering how many times this team has a slow start?

You don't make this kind of choice with a guy signed longterm after 5 games.

That said - Schroder is much more effective at collapsing the defense than Smart and that's something we need.

[FeedReed]

i don't understand pritchard getting dnp'd. smart is not good enough to where pritchard shouldn't play at all.

[fallguy]

Ime's candor is really appealing. Brad would never say the kind of stuff he does in the post-games.

It's early. Very early. And toughening up this bunch and getting them focused is job #1.

But a bigger roster change than we expect might be coming....

[JJHondo17]

And yet Smart was the only Celtic to post a plus in the +/- (+3) I know that's' not popular right now and neither is this. I don't think Rob Williams plays hard enough. Always see him jogging up the floor instead of putting pressure off on a retreating defense, doesn't approach setting picks or getting into screen-n- rolls with enough force. And has been timid underneath failing to finish with force.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Smart stars
7-4-4 25% shooting

Dennis schroder
16-4-6 40% shooting.

I'm sure some people will pull some advanced stats nonsense but looking at the difference between the two why would smart continue to start? If you have a guy that is a better shooter and equal rebounder and a better distributor why would you not start him considering how many times this team has a slow start?

You don't make this kind of choice with a guy signed longterm after 5 games.

That said - Schroder is much more effective at collapsing the defense than Smart and that's something we need.

Why not? Shouldn't you be doing what's best for the team? It's not like smart lit the world on fire last year when he started either. Smart simply isn't a starting point guard. The sooner the team realizes that the better they will be.

I'm sure the players like how hard smart plays but anyone who has ever played basketball on any level at all knows one of the most annoying teammates you can have is the guy who can't shoot constantly putting up shots.

[ddb]

We don't need more of a sample size to know that Marcus Smart is not the answer at PG. Many of our concerns heading into the season about Smart in that role have rapidly proven to be true. He's better suited as the Swiss-army-knife coming off the bench. Period. There is literally no debate. He cannot shoot AT ALL and never will be able to. He's to turnover prone. The list goes on. He's a 22-25MPG guy off the bench who can bring toughness, energy, and occasionally get hot shooting. That's it.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

Smart stars
7-4-4 25% shooting

Dennis schroder
16-4-6 40% shooting.

I'm sure some people will pull some advanced stats nonsense but looking at the difference between the two why would smart continue to start? If you have a guy that is a better shooter and equal rebounder and a better distributor why would you not start him considering how many times this team has a slow start?

You don't make this kind of choice with a guy signed longterm after 5 games.

That said - Schroder is much more effective at collapsing the defense than Smart and that's something we need.

Why not? Shouldn't you be doing what's best for the team? We already have Ime calling out the team and JB yet somehow Smart can't be touched?

It's not like smart lit the world on fire last year when he started either. Smart simply isn't a starting point guard. The sooner the team realizes that the better they will be.

I'm sure the players like how hard smart plays but anyone who has ever played basketball on any level at all knows one of the most annoying teammates you can have is the guy who can't shoot constantly putting up shots.

[fallguy]

Smart stars
7-4-4 25% shooting

Dennis schroder
16-4-6 40% shooting.

I'm sure some people will pull some advanced stats nonsense but looking at the difference between the two why would smart continue to start? If you have a guy that is a better shooter and equal rebounder and a better distributor why would you not start him considering how many times this team has a slow start?

You don't make this kind of choice with a guy signed longterm after 5 games.

That said - Schroder is much more effective at collapsing the defense than Smart and that's something we need.

Why not? Shouldn't you be doing what's best for the team? It's not like smart lit the world on fire last year when he started either. Smart simply isn't a starting point guard. The sooner the team realizes that the better they will be.

I'm sure the players like how hard smart plays but anyone who has ever played basketball on any level at all knows one of the most annoying teammates you can have is the guy who can't shoot constantly putting up shots.

I'm with you on Smart's shooting. Smitty noted in his recap that his current percentages make him unplayable and he's right.

But what's best for the team is not to demote the guy you just handed a four-year-deal based on a five-game sample size.