PG: Raps outpace Indy

[Indeed]

I wouldn't want to be Nurse when siakam comes back. Who goes to the bench?
Barnes has been incredible, i wouldn't want to sit him right now
Trent's shooting and deflections are so important for the starting lineup
Precious seems reasonable but then you're starting Siakam or OG at center, not ideal.

I'm guessing he sits Trent and uses him as a super 6th man.

Trent has to hit the bench....just like Norm used to hit the bench.

FVV-Barnes-OG-Siakam is a must.

i understand that opinion but Trent's shooting is vital in the halfcourt.

I don't think our shooting is that bad, and I am not surprised we don't need that much of offense.

But if we have to replace someone for Trent, I am not sure who that would be.

[sidsid]

I'm in favor of Precious coming off the bench, really think Trent is a much better player as a starter

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I think it's important that we don't play Siakam out of position. He's at a pivotal point of his career and we need to put him in his natural place to succeed. And I don't know about Scottie at C.

Yeah I want to see Scottie play a bit at C, but I wouldn't want it in those starting minutes.

The future is Siakam/OG/Barnes, and we need to see them with as many minutes as possible together. Start Boucher at C for all I care if you need more spacing. Those 3 with chemistry are going to be a + lineup with a range of guys out there eventually.

[Indeed]

1-0 without Dragic. What happened?

lol.. yep. He just wasnt it.

Banton provides energy and playmaking, Dragic doesn't. You need those things off the bench from your backup.

When you look at Banton, he's incredibly long, like freakish. Once he gets a shot, and improves his overall game/confidence, he's a starter in a winning team for sure, and that's huge value at 46.

Banton
Barnes
OG
Siakam
Birch/Precious

Would be interesting to see that in a year.

That is not true, Dragic was a better playmaker, and he got fouled at rim, or his pass to the big got foul.

The difference is that Button has been impactful on defense, particularly we don't have the size and length with below average defenders with Mykhailiuk. Banton allows us to hide them, while offensively Dragic isn't shooting well.

[WuTang_CMB]

1-0 without Dragic. What happened?

lol.. yep. He just wasnt it.

Banton provides energy and playmaking, Dragic doesn't. You need those things off the bench from your backup.

When you look at Banton, he's incredibly long, like freakish. Once he gets a shot, and improves his overall game/confidence, he's a starter in a winning team for sure, and that's huge value at 46.

Banton
Barnes
OG
Siakam
Birch/Precious

Would be interesting to see that in a year.

That is not true, Dragic was a better playmaker, and he got fouled at rim, or his pass to the big got foul.

The difference is that Button has been impactful on defense, particularly we don't have the size and length with below average defenders with Mykhailiuk. Banton allows us to hide them, while offensively Dragic isn't shooting well.

Disagree. Dragic never got in the lane to create, wasn't a difference maker off the bench. Very average playmaking. Banton's been a lot better.

[HangTime]

Trent has to hit the bench....just like Norm used to hit the bench.

FVV-Barnes-OG-Siakam is a must.

i understand that opinion but Trent's shooting is vital in the halfcourt.

I don't think our shooting is that bad, and I am not surprised we don't need that much of offense.

But if we have to replace someone for Trent, I am not sure who that would be.

If Gary is just that much more effective as a starter, would you consider bringing Scottie off the bench, with the same minutes. Bring him in like 3-4 minutes into the game, or any if anyone is in foul trouble before that.

Put him in the running for rookie of the year and 6th man of the year. Just like last year he was Freshman of the year and 6th man of the year.

[Mikistan]

i understand that opinion but Trent's shooting is vital in the halfcourt.

I don't think our shooting is that bad, and I am not surprised we don't need that much of offense.

But if we have to replace someone for Trent, I am not sure who that would be.

If Gary is just that much more effective as a starter, would you consider bringing Scottie off the bench, with the same minutes. Bring him in like 3-4 minutes into the game, or any if anyone is in foul trouble before that.

Put him in the running for rookie of the year and 6th man of the year. Just like last year he was Freshman of the year and 6th man of the year.

you cant bench scottie hes been a constant positive on the floor , you dont just bench a guy who is performing that well

[will]

I don't think our shooting is that bad, and I am not surprised we don't need that much of offense.

But if we have to replace someone for Trent, I am not sure who that would be.

If Gary is just that much more effective as a starter, would you consider bringing Scottie off the bench, with the same minutes. Bring him in like 3-4 minutes into the game, or any if anyone is in foul trouble before that.

Put him in the running for rookie of the year and 6th man of the year. Just like last year he was Freshman of the year and 6th man of the year.

you cant bench scottie hes been a constant positive on the floor , you dont just bench a guy who is performing that well

Scottie will be getting minutes, regardless if he starts or comes off the bench.

What I would say is that there is no way PSizzle or Scottie will be playing the 5 spot for an extended period of time during games. It will always be Previous or Khem, with Father BooShay mixed in at the 5 spot.

[Basketball_Jones]

I wouldn't want to be Nurse when siakam comes back. Who goes to the bench?
Barnes has been incredible, i wouldn't want to sit him right now
Trent's shooting and deflections are so important for the starting lineup
Precious seems reasonable but then you're starting Siakam or OG at center, not ideal.

I'm guessing he sits Trent and uses him as a super 6th man.

Trents shooting has been bad though. That should make the decision easy. His defense has been stellar though, huge surprise for me.

[DreamTeam09]

I don't think our shooting is that bad, and I am not surprised we don't need that much of offense.

But if we have to replace someone for Trent, I am not sure who that would be.

If Gary is just that much more effective as a starter, would you consider bringing Scottie off the bench, with the same minutes. Bring him in like 3-4 minutes into the game, or any if anyone is in foul trouble before that.

Put him in the running for rookie of the year and 6th man of the year. Just like last year he was Freshman of the year and 6th man of the year.

you cant bench scottie hes been a constant positive on the floor , you dont just bench a guy who is performing that well

You act like he's been banished. He can still get 30minutes off of the bench because he plays multiple positions

[Mikistan]

If Gary is just that much more effective as a starter, would you consider bringing Scottie off the bench, with the same minutes. Bring him in like 3-4 minutes into the game, or any if anyone is in foul trouble before that.

Put him in the running for rookie of the year and 6th man of the year. Just like last year he was Freshman of the year and 6th man of the year.

you cant bench scottie hes been a constant positive on the floor , you dont just bench a guy who is performing that well

You act like he's been banished. He can still get 30minutes off of the bench because he plays multiple positions

Sure but as fvv says, there are levels to this stuff, and benching Scottie (even tho he's a rookie and I'm sure he will be ok with it) is a bad look

[Indeed]

you cant bench scottie hes been a constant positive on the floor , you dont just bench a guy who is performing that well

You act like he's been banished. He can still get 30minutes off of the bench because he plays multiple positions

Sure but as fvv says, there are levels to this stuff, and benching Scottie (even tho he's a rookie and I'm sure he will be ok with it) is a bad look

And all I know is, OG and Barnes were carrying the offense, initiating them more often than not. Trent is there to execute, may create a few for himself, but not exactly dominating like OG and Barnes. So we want to take away minutes from someone who can dominate to someone who is not much dominating?

[DreamTeam09]

You act like he's been banished. He can still get 30minutes off of the bench because he plays multiple positions

Sure but as fvv says, there are levels to this stuff, and benching Scottie (even tho he's a rookie and I'm sure he will be ok with it) is a bad look

And all I know is, OG and Barnes were carrying the offense, initiating them more often than not. Trent is there to execute, may create a few for himself, but not exactly dominating like OG and Barnes. So we want to take away minutes from someone who can dominate to someone who is not much dominating?

Barnes minutes will not be taken away, he's able to get 30mins off the bench from playing multiple positions. What's wrong with having the rook dominate against other benches and give us some much needed bench production

[Indeed]

lol.. yep. He just wasnt it.

Banton provides energy and playmaking, Dragic doesn't. You need those things off the bench from your backup.

When you look at Banton, he's incredibly long, like freakish. Once he gets a shot, and improves his overall game/confidence, he's a starter in a winning team for sure, and that's huge value at 46.

Banton
Barnes
OG
Siakam
Birch/Precious

Would be interesting to see that in a year.

That is not true, Dragic was a better playmaker, and he got fouled at rim, or his pass to the big got foul.

The difference is that Button has been impactful on defense, particularly we don't have the size and length with below average defenders with Mykhailiuk. Banton allows us to hide them, while offensively Dragic isn't shooting well.

Disagree. Dragic never got in the lane to create, wasn't a difference maker off the bench. Very average playmaking. Banton's been a lot better.

Saying Dragic never got in the lane to create is not true, and he did that a few times against the Bulls. I am not going to re-watch the Bulls game on my 3rd time to point it out, but there are a few possessions he got to the heart of defense and draw fouls. And yet his average playmaking is pretty much the top on our team.

As for Banton, he is better, but not because of the offense, he plays both end, which is why he deserves minutes.

[Indeed]

Sure but as fvv says, there are levels to this stuff, and benching Scottie (even tho he's a rookie and I'm sure he will be ok with it) is a bad look

And all I know is, OG and Barnes were carrying the offense, initiating them more often than not. Trent is there to execute, may create a few for himself, but not exactly dominating like OG and Barnes. So we want to take away minutes from someone who can dominate to someone who is not much dominating?

Barnes minutes will not be taken away, he's able to get 30mins off the bench from playing multiple positions. What's wrong with having the rook dominate against other benches and give us some much needed bench production

Why do you take away one of the best player and put him on the bench. He plays better than Trent, he should start, period.
Why not Trent gets his 36 mins off the bench? If he couldn't play better with the bench, then it is his problem, not Barnes problem.

[Kingsway_fan]

Trent no doubt will go to second unit.

Starters will be precious, pascal, Barnes, og and fred.

Second unit should be good with Yuta, boucher, Delano and khem....

[C_Money]

It should be Achiuwa going to the bench. He’s the worst of the starting 5.

[prelude00]

Sure but as fvv says, there are levels to this stuff, and benching Scottie (even tho he's a rookie and I'm sure he will be ok with it) is a bad look

And all I know is, OG and Barnes were carrying the offense, initiating them more often than not. Trent is there to execute, may create a few for himself, but not exactly dominating like OG and Barnes. So we want to take away minutes from someone who can dominate to someone who is not much dominating?

Barnes minutes will not be taken away, he's able to get 30mins off the bench from playing multiple positions. What's wrong with having the rook dominate against other benches and give us some much needed bench production

Then we could have a 6th man and ROY candidate in one player

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[Son Goku 25]

Tough decision with Trent and his streaky shooting, at least he keeps defenses honest and they won't leave him open. If one of OG, FVV Or Siakam are off from distance then we'll run into issues but I'd still like to see that lineup replacing Trent with Siakam and keeping the rest.

Really, Siakam, Precious and Scottie are interchangeable on defense but I'd rather let Precious take the banging as he's tougher and will allow siakam to guard a PF and have energy on offense.

All 5 guys can bring the ball up.

[johanliebert]

14 pages in and not a peep about that stretch of shooting vanvleet had. This board and its inflation with young players lol game after game the key players are ignored.

[johanliebert]

you cant bench scottie hes been a constant positive on the floor , you dont just bench a guy who is performing that well

You act like he's been banished. He can still get 30minutes off of the bench because he plays multiple positions

Sure but as fvv says, there are levels to this stuff, and benching Scottie (even tho he's a rookie and I'm sure he will be ok with it) is a bad look

It’s different when you’re a rookie on a team with vets. If they bench Trent and go big teams might just press the team full court. Barnes can dribble with an open court but doesn’t look like a primary ball handler yet.