2021-22 Rookie Thread

[Got Nuffin]

You asked what makes Scottie a wing and I answered lol

Except a wing is generally considered to be a SF/SG, not a PG.

What I was getting at, though, is there's a fair chance both players end up primarily playing PF.

Sure but Scottie has played PG and SF in several lineups. He’s pretty much positionless and once Pascal returns soon, I don’t think Scottie will be full time PF. More likely that we see Scottie slide over to SF and OG to SG

Yeah Scottie looks very comfortable with the ball in his hands both in transition and half-court. Plopping him at pf just because of his size is fine but a waste imo, you want this guy as one of your primary ball-handlers as his vision and ball-handling are pretty unique.

When Siakam returns I imagine pf- Siakam, f- Barnes, g Anunoby as well. I don't think that disadvantages us defensively in any way and OG is a much better shooter these days and can probably hold the fort. Lets Barnes act as secondary ball-handler to FVV, which will pay off big-time in the long run.

Scottie Barnes is NOT Draymond Green despite everyone comparing the two.

[basketballRob]

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[Bruin]

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Not sure I see your point, especially when you post a link and give no context to what your point is

They’re both completely different players and the numbers suggest the same too. As a Michigan fan, I’m glad Franz is doing well, but its really a non comparison considering the roles they play and the style of their games

[zimpy27]

Jalen Green looks disappointing so far

[basketballRob]

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Not sure I see your point, especially when you post a link and give no context to what your point is

They’re both completely different players and the numbers suggest the same too. As a Michigan fan, I’m glad Franz is doing well, but its really a non comparison considering the roles they play and the style of their games

You make an argument that Franz has been better than Scottie so far.

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[Funcrusher]

Jalen Green looks disappointing so far

it's been 5 games.

[Bruin]

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Not sure I see your point, especially when you post a link and give no context to what your point is

They’re both completely different players and the numbers suggest the same too. As a Michigan fan, I’m glad Franz is doing well, but its really a non comparison considering the roles they play and the style of their games

You make an argument that Franz has been better than Scottie so far.

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Based on what? Scottie has more points, rebounds, assists, FG%, FT%

Franz has done better in steals, blocks, and turnovers which is a pointless comparison cause Scottie plays PG minutes and runs the offense at times

If you truly think there’s a way to stretch things numbers to say that Franz has been better than Scottie, then may I suggest you look at our 46th pick vs Suggs per36?
https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=bantoda01&player_id2=suggsja01

You’re reaching too far. Scottie > Franz

[zimpy27]

Jalen Green looks disappointing so far

it's been 5 games.

Yes it is, he's been disappointing so far


Would you say Barnes has been good so far? Or would you say no comment is valid yet either positive or negative?

[Vampirate]

Jalen Green looks disappointing so far

He'll probably be a scoring machine, it just won't be this year.

[WeTheNorth123]

Jalen Green looks disappointing so far

it's been 5 games.

Yes it is, he's been disappointing so far


Would you say Barnes has been good so far? Or would you say no comment is valid yet either positive or negative?

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[MrBigShot]

Jalen Green's not gun shy so not so surprised at some of his struggles. What you wanna see are the flashes of what he could become, like the 30 point game he put together. Think 2 years from now when he's got lots of playing time under his belt and has had time to put on some strength.

[QPR]

I remember Durant came into the league in a similar situation as a skinny rookie expected to be a first or second option on a poor team - he averaged 20ppg in his first season but he shot 43% and under 30% from 3, and there were some big games in amongst a bunch of poor shooting nights.

Next season he grew up, put on size and figured out NBA defenses. I expect it will be similar for Green.

[anotherhomer]

moses moody riding the pine here
Kerr hates rookies lol

[God Squad]

Where are all the posters who were stroking Jalen during SL

Hiding of course. Green will stink up then next 2-3 games, then explode for 20 then they'll pop back up.

[God Squad]

Not sure I see your point, especially when you post a link and give no context to what your point is

They’re both completely different players and the numbers suggest the same too. As a Michigan fan, I’m glad Franz is doing well, but its really a non comparison considering the roles they play and the style of their games

You make an argument that Franz has been better than Scottie so far.

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Based on what? Scottie has more points, rebounds, assists, FG%, FT%

Franz has done better in steals, blocks, and turnovers which is a pointless comparison cause Scottie plays PG minutes and runs the offense at times

If you truly think there’s a way to stretch things numbers to say that Franz has been better than Scottie, then may I suggest you look at our 46th pick vs Suggs per36?
https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=bantoda01&player_id2=suggsja01

You’re reaching too far. Scottie > Franz

Franz so far is a spot up shooter, who can attack if given space. Sub par rebounder, passer and ball handler. How you even think it's close is beyond me.

Don't even get me started on the bolded.

[God Squad]

Jalen Green's not gun shy so not so surprised at some of his struggles. What you wanna see are the flashes of what he could become, like the 30 point game he put together. Think 2 years from now when he's got lots of playing time under his belt and has had time to put on some strength.

He can't wait 2 years. He was all in his feelings about not being picked first and wanting to win ROY.

[God Squad]

I remember Durant came into the league in a similar situation as a skinny rookie expected to be a first or second option on a poor team - he averaged 20ppg in his first season but he shot 43% and under 30% from 3, and there were some big games in amongst a bunch of poor shooting nights.

Next season he grew up, put on size and figured out NBA defenses. I expect it will be similar for Green.

I don't think so. First never compare anyone to the original unicorn in KD. KD is damn near 7ft tall moving and handling the ball like a guard. He can get his shot over anyone. Green's handle isn't as tight, and he can't just shoot over people.

Greens going to have a lot of hot, and cold games. But I think they'll be more poor efficient ones than the 30 pt 8-10 3pt breakout. I'm not sure he wins ROY this year. Especially if Cade (although both jumper reliant) has much better efficiency.

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[basketballRob]

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[basketballRob]

You make an argument that Franz has been better than Scottie so far.

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Based on what? Scottie has more points, rebounds, assists, FG%, FT%

Franz has done better in steals, blocks, and turnovers which is a pointless comparison cause Scottie plays PG minutes and runs the offense at times

If you truly think there’s a way to stretch things numbers to say that Franz has been better than Scottie, then may I suggest you look at our 46th pick vs Suggs per36?
https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=bantoda01&player_id2=suggsja01

You’re reaching too far. Scottie > Franz

Franz so far is a spot up shooter, who can attack if given space. Sub par rebounder, passer and ball handler. How you even think it's close is beyond me.

Don't even get me started on the bolded.

Franz can get by people and is a really good passer.

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[Funcrusher]

Jalen Green looks disappointing so far

it's been 5 games.

Yes it is, he's been disappointing so far


Would you say Barnes has been good so far? Or would you say no comment is valid yet either positive or negative?

yes, i would say Barnes is playing good, but I'm not going to project too much out of him from 5 games. same thing with Green, who i've criticized quite a bit in fact. Saying someone has been a disappointment in their first 5 games in the NBA is textbook "prisoner of the moment" disease. Like, yeah he hasn't been good thus far. So what?