Warriors v Grizzlies

[TwoStarz]

To blame for this loss is a tie between Wiggins and Kerr:

Wiggins - not worth the max.
Kerr - didn't put Curry in soon enough.

Don't pay attention to Curry, Poole, and Draymond combining for 16 turnovers... nothing to see here.

Seriously not putting Curry in really screwed us. We had to play 5 extra minutes instead of losing earlier.. that will hurt us next game. We're already losing next game because Kerr is playing reverse upside-down 4-D checkers

Curry was at the scorers table for a long time waiting for a dead ball. Kerr would have had to use a TO to get him in the game and then Curry went scoreless in the 4th and OT. Blaming Kerr is silly. Just like the play-in game, the Dubs two best players threw the ball away and disappeared down the stretch.

edit: FNQ might have got me.

So Kerr had the foresight to know Curry was gonna go 0 for in the fourth and OT?

Kerr called a time out with 6:51 left in the 4th and Memphis had just tied the game. He could have brought Curry in since he usually comes in at the 6 minute mark anyways. But he didn’t, he probably wanted to prove some point by letting the line up of Wiggins, JTA, Draymond, Iggy show their offensive prowess off.

The loss Isn’t on Kerr, but to act like all his decisions are absolved of blame is ridiculous. He absolutely makes mistakes, just like the rest of this team and the rest of man kind.

Also turnovers are due to poor execution and at some point that’s gotta fall on the coaching staff too. Everyone shares the blame, and Steve needs to figure it the F out

[WESCO]

Not a good way to start the home stand.

Luckily. We're starting a nice extended home stand.

[whatisacenter]

Seriously not putting Curry in really screwed us. We had to play 5 extra minutes instead of losing earlier.. that will hurt us next game. We're already losing next game because Kerr is playing reverse upside-down 4-D checkers

Curry was at the scorers table for a long time waiting for a dead ball. Kerr would have had to use a TO to get him in the game and then Curry went scoreless in the 4th and OT. Blaming Kerr is silly. Just like the play-in game, the Dubs two best players threw the ball away and disappeared down the stretch.

edit: FNQ might have got me.

So Kerr had the foresight to know Curry was gonna go 0 for in the fourth and OT?

Kerr called a time out with 6:51 left in the 4th and Memphis had just tied the game. He could have brought Curry in since he usually comes in at the 6 minute mark anyways. But he didn’t, he probably wanted to prove some point by letting the line up of Wiggins, JTA, Draymond, Iggy show their offensive prowess off.

The loss Isn’t on Kerr, but to act like all his decisions are absolved of blame is ridiculous. He absolutely makes mistakes, just like the rest of this team and the rest of man kind.

plenty of blame to go around for sure. the grizz players were better down the stretch and in OT than the Dubs. Reminded me of the play-in game.

[SpreeChokeJob]

Serious question, how can Curry and Draymond be so careless for the entire game? It's like they were determined to show Memphis that they were totally unfazed and that Memphis definitely wasn't in their head that they proved that Memphis was indeed in their head.

I think it’s fatigue. Physical and mental. Look at the pace they’ve been playing in Sacramento and OKC.

Their style has to change as their players are getting older. They are playing a style for guys in their mid to late 20’s. Iggy getting blocked on a jam. That’s old man-itis. In his prime he would took the ball and the guy into the basket.

[DevinVassell]

Seriously not putting Curry in really screwed us. We had to play 5 extra minutes instead of losing earlier.. that will hurt us next game. We're already losing next game because Kerr is playing reverse upside-down 4-D checkers

Curry was at the scorers table for a long time waiting for a dead ball. Kerr would have had to use a TO to get him in the game and then Curry went scoreless in the 4th and OT. Blaming Kerr is silly. Just like the play-in game, the Dubs two best players threw the ball away and disappeared down the stretch.

edit: FNQ might have got me.

Kerr made a sub with 6:36 left to bring Lee and Wiggins back in. Why can’t he bring curry in? Is he waiting for his precious 6 minute mark wtf

I've been bitching about this forever. Kerr is way way to rigid with Stephs' minutes allocation.

If the score is that CLOSE in the fourth, your best (and highest paid) player should not be sitting on the bench. He should have been put in at the 10 min mark this game. Rest is for when your up 15 or blowouts.

[GunnerWRX]

What a downer

[WESCO]

Serious question, how can Curry and Draymond be so careless for the entire game? It's like they were determined to show Memphis that they were totally unfazed and that Memphis definitely wasn't in their head that they proved that Memphis was indeed in their head.

I think it’s fatigue. Physical and mental. Look at the pace they’ve been playing in Sacramento and OKC.

Their style has to change as their players are getting older. They are playing a style for guys in their mid to late 20’s. Iggy getting blocked on a jam. That’s old man-itis. In his prime he would took the ball and the guy into the basket.

Im not buying the fatigue even at the age of our Stars. It's not game 40 or 60. It's #5 when the opposing team is coming on to our home court while they are on the back end of a b2b and we've had a days rest.

Edit I should say say "physical fatigue"

[SpreeChokeJob]

Serious question, how can Curry and Draymond be so careless for the entire game? It's like they were determined to show Memphis that they were totally unfazed and that Memphis definitely wasn't in their head that they proved that Memphis was indeed in their head.

I think it’s fatigue. Physical and mental. Look at the pace they’ve been playing in Sacramento and OKC.

Their style has to change as their players are getting older. They are playing a style for guys in their mid to late 20’s. Iggy getting blocked on a jam. That’s old man-itis. In his prime he would took the ball and the guy into the basket.

Im not buying the fatigue even at the age of our Stars. It's not game 40 or 60. It's #5 when the opposing team is coming on to our home court while they are on the back end of a b2b and we've had a days rest.

Edit I should say say "physical fatigue"

The game they played in Sacramento was intense. They played very hard. Then they showed signs of slowing down in the early quarters of OKC. And now at Memphis they could only manage a burst in the early quarter and can’t bring the same intensity in the later quarters.

The way they play, Steph is running non stop and Draymond gets assigned to guard bigs. These guys aren’t made of titanium, but they try to wear down the other team. They are also wearing themselves down in the process.

They need to run a traditional lineup to keep guys fresh, or add more people on the rotation, or guys get every other day to rest.

[SFrush]

25 minutes for a 90 year old Andre Iguodala while Bjelica, Otto and GP waste away on the bench. A+ coaching job tonight

Yeah those were some odd decisions. Atleast put Porter in down 3 with less than a minute left.

[DAWill1128]

Kerr is going to stick to Steph sub patterns regardless of what’s happening on the floor. It’s frustrating at times but I accept he won’t change that.

[HiRez]

I don't know how Memphis only had 9 blocks because it felt like about 50. What a @#*% deflating game, Memphis is talented but we really shat the bed hard.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Curry and dray have their share of turnovers, but they do other things to help compensate. Poole is a turnover machine right now who didn't provide anything to compensate. Poole needs to just chill and try not to do too much and play off the open looks that curry or dray creates. 6 turnovers with 9 points as the second highest usage player is tough.

[Crazy-Canuck]

One thing kerr should have done is put wiggs to work vs morant in the post. It worked well last game, why ignore it this game?

[Phase 3]

Warriors aren’t going anywhere meaningful in the playoffs unless they add more firepower around Steph.

Sure, they’ll be a solid regular season team. But good teams will swarm Curry and force others to beat them.

Make a move for Siakim if available and hope Klay gets back to 85%+ of what he was.

[vagelis]

I wish they would have used Wiggins more. He was feeling it against Anderson.

I also wish they had more size on the court to finish the 4th or OT.

More so I wish that Green didn't throw the game away every chance he got.

Kerr refuses to give Wiggins a bigger role while he is clearly the second best offensive player of the Warriors.
The previous year Kerr sticked with Oubre as second option fort the first 3 months of the year and it was a disaster.
Wiggins became the second option only after Oubre got injured.
This year Kerr tries to make Poole and Lee the second option while they are not that type of players.
Wiggins stays and waits his opportunity as last year, while he produces every night even staying uninvolved for big stretches of games.
He had zero shot attempts in overtime. The second best offensive player of the team had zero shot attempts when it mattered and while he is a clutch player and scores better when it matters.
The ball goes everywhere else except Wiggins

[WarriorGM]

We ran out of steam big time here today, so where the issue is I don't know. I'd like a review of all items provided to the team, including brand of socks, types of deodorant, shampoo acidity, Gatorade flavours, popcorn provided, blend of cotton to polyester ratio of the towels used, etc. There must be something off.

They’ve been running non stop since the Sacramento game. They are just tired. Poole needs to step up. The other two rookies and Wiseman need to get up to speed. These tired old legs are not recovering like when they were in their 20’s.

This game reeks of mental fragility. Poole and Lee will need to practice maintaining a lead. Steph and Draymond better learn not to turn the ball over.

Fatigue at this early stage of the season is an excuse plain and simple.

If players are tired, play the other guys, that's what a bench is for.

Trying to save Steph minutes led to him playing more minutes.

Still it is best to see these weaknesses now so they can be addressed rather than later when the team's hands are tied.

[DevinVassell]

Trying to save Steph minutes led to him playing more minutes.

Bingo!... try and get too cute with rest and it can bite you in the arse.

Anyway onwards.

[cpower]

we lost the game on 3rd. let them getting to close and Ja heated up. We need a reliable 2nd option clearly neither poole nor wiggins is providing that. Lee should take some of wiggins shot and let wiggins just shoot open threes its clear he cant create nor score when defense is focusing on him. Porter should take more threes i have no idea why Kerr dont play him more.

[cpower]

I wish they would have used Wiggins more. He was feeling it against Anderson.

I also wish they had more size on the court to finish the 4th or OT.

More so I wish that Green didn't throw the game away every chance he got.

Kerr refuses to give Wiggins a bigger role while he is clearly the second best offensive player of the Warriors.
The previous year Kerr sticked with Oubre as second option fort the first 3 months of the year and it was a disaster.
Wiggins became the second option only after Oubre got injured.
This year Kerr tries to make Poole and Lee the second option while they are not that type of players.
Wiggins stays and waits his opportunity as last year, while he produces every night even staying uninvolved for big stretches of games.
He had zero shot attempts in overtime. The second best offensive player of the team had zero shot attempts when it mattered and while he is a clutch player and scores better when it matters.
The ball goes everywhere else except Wiggins

Wiggins is a below avg offensive player. he cant create , cant finish in open court and his 3 is inconsistent. If he is our 2nd best offensive player we are screwed either way.

[SpreeChokeJob]

we lost the game on 3rd. let them getting to close and Ja heated up. We need a reliable 2nd option clearly neither poole nor wiggins is providing that. Lee should take some of wiggins shot and let wiggins just shoot open threes its clear he cant create nor score when defense is focusing on him. Porter should take more threes i have no idea why Kerr dont play him more.

I wanted them to start Curry Wiggins Green Porter Looney. The only reason not to start Porter is he probably isn’t durable, but just play him less minutes to begin with. The starting lineup has less upside than with Poole but more stable. Porter’s three is more reliable.

Poole has played more like a sixth man anyways. But Kerr’s mindset is to always go small. Hell, I wouldn’t even mind see the same lineup with Bjelica instead of Looney, but Looney is in his contract year. Bjelica and Draymond have chemistry though.

With Bjelica Porter Green Wiggins Curry, the floor is completely spread. Should make things easier. The only reason not to play this lineup is if they can not run with smaller lineups. But I think these vets can hold their own against faster lineups because they can shoot.

Beats the hell of making Curry run around like a chicken with his head cut off. Just make the plays easier and reserve small ball at the end of games to close like what Grizzlies did yesterday to us. They started Adams first to wear the Warriors down then went for the knockout punch like this team used to do when they had Bogut.