RS 21/22 - Mavs @ Nuggets (Friday. 10PM EST, ESPN)

[Mr B]

Mavs have no trade and draft assets to make a move.

Unpopular opinion is they tank one year just like Golden State did to get Wiseman. I dont see Steph Curry complaining. Tank 1 year while getting the useless contracts like Powell out of the way is needed. Mavs cant just do a patch job every year. Just pull out the bandaid one time and that should fix stuff. You get capspace + a top pick.

The difference was that Steph was injured so it was easy for them to tank. Luka is not going to tank.

[Mr B]

If a team scores 75 points, it's not about Luka or bad shooting night. Their offense is atrocious and not just tonight. And the funniest thing, Mavs are more or less the same team. I wonder what all those optimists are saying now?

2nd night of a back to back, in Denver. Really not surprising they missed so many wide open shots. All night long they looked lethargic and a step slow. Now based on the first few games they clearly have some areas they need to get better (like rebounding), and they need to upgrade guys like DFS, Powell, and WCS, and they do still need another play maker. But with all that, if they just hit their wide open shots tonight (they missed a ton) there’s a chance they win this game. At the very least this game would have been a whole lot closer.

[Mr B]

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Mavs have no trade and draft assets to make a move.

Unpopular opinion is they tank one year just like Golden State did to get Wiseman. I dont see Steph Curry complaining. Tank 1 year while getting the useless contracts like Powell out of the way is needed. Mavs cant just do a patch job every year. Just pull out the bandaid one time and that should fix stuff. You get capspace + a top pick.

Klay and Curry were out.

How do you expect to lose enough games? Sit Luka? The Mavs are still probably a playoff team.

Without Luka? No way. It's very questionable, if they will be playoff team playing full strength, not with playing like that.

You’re not going to sit Luka and he’s not going to agree with tanking the season.

[Mavrelous]

If a team scores 75 points, it's not about Luka or bad shooting night. Their offense is atrocious and not just tonight. And the funniest thing, Mavs are more or less the same team. I wonder what all those optimists are saying now?

2nd night of a back to back, in Denver. Really not surprising they missed so many wide open shots. All night long they looked lethargic and a step slow. Now based on the first few games they clearly have some areas they need to get better (like rebounding), and they need to upgrade guys like DFS, Powell, and WCS, and they do still need another play maker. But with all that, if they just hit their wide open shots tonight (they missed a ton) there’s a chance they win this game. At the very least this game would have been a whole lot closer.

There is no justification, the team barely won against 3 horrible teams and was destroyed by 2 good but not great teams (Nuggets are my favourite to win the west, but they are w/o Murray).
There is a silver lining, and it's the PR job Cuban and his minions have been running is blowing up in their face, and another plus is it's bucket of freezing cold water that was poured on Luka's head, who needs this slap on the face, because Cuban and Kidd sure aren't going to do it.

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[41Dirk41]

If a team scores 75 points, it's not about Luka or bad shooting night. Their offense is atrocious and not just tonight. And the funniest thing, Mavs are more or less the same team. I wonder what all those optimists are saying now?

2nd night of a back to back, in Denver. Really not surprising they missed so many wide open shots. All night long they looked lethargic and a step slow. Now based on the first few games they clearly have some areas they need to get better (like rebounding), and they need to upgrade guys like DFS, Powell, and WCS, and they do still need another play maker. But with all that, if they just hit their wide open shots tonight (they missed a ton) there’s a chance they win this game. At the very least this game would have been a whole lot closer.

You are tight but we knew those things already 2years ago... are we waiting for what???

[41Dirk41]

If a team scores 75 points, it's not about Luka or bad shooting night. Their offense is atrocious and not just tonight. And the funniest thing, Mavs are more or less the same team. I wonder what all those optimists are saying now?

2nd night of a back to back, in Denver. Really not surprising they missed so many wide open shots. All night long they looked lethargic and a step slow. Now based on the first few games they clearly have some areas they need to get better (like rebounding), and they need to upgrade guys like DFS, Powell, and WCS, and they do still need another play maker. But with all that, if they just hit their wide open shots tonight (they missed a ton) there’s a chance they win this game. At the very least this game would have been a whole lot closer.

There is no justification, the team barely won against 3 horrible teams and was destroyed by 2 good but not great teams (Nuggets are my favourite to win the west, but they are w/o Murray).
There is a silver lining, and it's the PR job Cuban and his minions have been running is blowing up in their face, and another plus is it's bucket of freezing cold water that was poured on Luka's head, who needs this slap on the face, because Cuban and Kidd sure aren't going to do it.

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Sky is falling

[Pofukauskas]

This has to be the most uninspiring team in the league with no future. Bunch of soft underweight altar boys bricking jumpers left and right with Latvian cuck on the bench in a suit per the usual. The Pussyngis trade ruined this franchise for 5-10 years and absolutely nothing can be done to correct the mistake in the near future. They've played 5 games, barely won 3 against bottom dwellers, and lost handily against the more physical playoff teams while looking like bunch of amateurs. I expect more of the same throughout the season. Teams with tough, strong players can at least play physical when their shot isn't falling while Dallas has nothing - they need to shoot lights out to beat a good playoff team, and that won't happen very often. You can already see Doncic slowly checking out, realising this team isn't going anywhere anytime soon, and his best teammate being THJ who can't guard a chair while scoring like a second option every fifth game. And I feel absolutely no sorrow for Luka - he has chosen this **** team with no assets to improve and therefore no future over a couple million more that he would of gotten elsewhere, now he better get used to eating this **** sandwich for the next 5 years.

To all the "MFFL" - this team is a lost cause don't sweat over it.

[Mavrelous]

Mavs have 25 millions of expiring next year, and can trade their 22 pick to the Knicks and free up all their future picks, they have the best franchise player in the league, this should get you the co-star for Luka, 2 guards (Brunson and THJ) who are good for contender, but you can't waste 20% of the cap on Powell, Burke and Boban, they bring nothing to KP, Maxi, WCS and Brown, especially when your max co-star isn't looking good.
The team is well set for the future, but it needs correct management of assets, which isn't really happenning, someone needs to hold Cuban's feet to the fire.

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[XTraderXL]

I dont think the current core is enough to win a championship. It should however be enough to enter the playoffs.

So from there Cuban can see if these are aligned with his goals for this year.

Current core is more or less the same as last year, so it's proven to be enough for playoffs. But watching them this year, it's very doubtful that will be enough with new coach. Playing like in first matches for sure not.

The problem is that the coach is much worse than last year. So same team, worse coach and a McDoncic at the start of the season. Thats not a good combination.

[Pinkyring]

Im all for a tank season but we're too dumb to not do it. This team is screwed because we don't have the money or assets to add the additional guy we need and the worse part is we really aren't that far off, we don't need a star just a healthy KP and a borderline all star that can create for himself and others. Main reason I wanted derozen so bad because while he has his flaws he can provide a lot of what we need. A guy available whom isnt an ideal fit but also gives a lot of what we need is john wall, only issue is we cant make the money work without including thj which im ok with but it'll take some maneuvering.

[Archx]

I don't know what Kidd is doing to this team but i haven't seen Luka this bad, like ever... He has no confidence in his shots and letting THJ play like Kobe, playing Dwight at center, etc... is killing them.

The fact that Silas said the other night that he's surprised how Mavs have the same starting lineup as they had 3 years ago, tells you everything.

[arkuo]

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Klay and Curry were out.

How do you expect to lose enough games? Sit Luka? The Mavs are still probably a playoff team.

Without Luka? No way. It's very questionable, if they will be playoff team playing full strength, not with playing like that.

You’re not going to sit Luka and he’s not going to agree with tanking the season.

Yeah. The tank job for a top pick is what's needed. It's not gonna happen with Luka starting though. And he won't agree to sit either.

Getting a Zion type of top pick with trading Powell and the cast for expirings would turn the team around 180 degrees. Maybe trade Porzingis to Minnesota for their pick so Dallas has 2 picks in the top 8 if they plan to tank.

[arkuo]

I don't know what Kidd is doing to this team but i haven't seen Luka this bad, like ever... He has no confidence in his shots and letting THJ play like Kobe, playing Dwight at center, etc... is killing them.

The fact that Silas said the other night that he's surprised how Mavs have the same starting lineup as they had 3 years ago, tells you everything.

It's Cuban marketing the inability to sign big talent and masking it as "continuity". Continuity sells because Cuban has been harping the idea of "We are family. This is our culture, we don't trade guys away". That's easy to say now when there is no talent but he let Tyson Chandler walk away but still decides to pay these mediocre guys just as much.

[Archx]

I don't know what Kidd is doing to this team but i haven't seen Luka this bad, like ever... He has no confidence in his shots and letting THJ play like Kobe, playing Dwight at center, etc... is killing them.

The fact that Silas said the other night that he's surprised how Mavs have the same starting lineup as they had 3 years ago, tells you everything.

It's Cuban marketing the inability to sign big talent and masking it as "continuity". Continuity sells because Cuban has been harping the idea of "We are family. This is our culture, we don't trade guys away". That's easy to say now when there is no talent but he let Tyson Chandler walk away but still decides to pay these mediocre guys just as much.

Yes, but Rick understood what kind of team he had. Look at DFS, he's almost as useless as Josh Green, had a freaking 23% USG% last night. He's not that type of player at all... And it feels like everyone is out of place, even Maxi who i felt always knew how to shine in his limited role. Ofcourse we can blame the leadership the most but i honestly don't know how do you simply forget how to play in 2 months time.

We can also argue that 5 games is nothing, but my point is, this is basically the same team as it was for past 3 years and they know eachother, suddenly, no one can shot or make plays. They barely get to 50 point mark at the half or midway through the 3rd Q. People yelled for Rick to be fired, well....

[leolozon]

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Klay and Curry were out.

How do you expect to lose enough games? Sit Luka? The Mavs are still probably a playoff team.

Without Luka? No way. It's very questionable, if they will be playoff team playing full strength, not with playing like that.

You’re not going to sit Luka and he’s not going to agree with tanking the season.

Which was exactly my point. The Mavs can't tank with Luka and they won't sit him, it's a moot point.

If they wanted to build through the draft, then they had to
tank better in Luka's rookie season to keep that pick and they had to not trade for KP. It's too late now.

It was, again, a lack of forward thinking to not get rid of the starters sooner and to finish the season 4-3 (a game won in OT). They were 4 wins away from the Hawks who picked Hunter.

The Mavs mishandled another situation, which is all they've been doing since drafting Luka and Brunson.

[arkuo]

I don't know what Kidd is doing to this team but i haven't seen Luka this bad, like ever... He has no confidence in his shots and letting THJ play like Kobe, playing Dwight at center, etc... is killing them.

The fact that Silas said the other night that he's surprised how Mavs have the same starting lineup as they had 3 years ago, tells you everything.

It's Cuban marketing the inability to sign big talent and masking it as "continuity". Continuity sells because Cuban has been harping the idea of "We are family. This is our culture, we don't trade guys away". That's easy to say now when there is no talent but he let Tyson Chandler walk away but still decides to pay these mediocre guys just as much.

Yes, but Rick understood what kind of team he had. Look at DFS, he's almost as useless as Josh Green, had a freaking 23% USG% last night. He's not that type of player at all... And it feels like everyone is out of place, even Maxi who i felt always knew how to shine in his limited role. Ofcourse we can blame the leadership the most but i honestly don't know how do you simply forget how to play in 2 months time.

We can also argue that 5 games is nothing, but my point is, this is basically the same team as it was for past 3 years and they know eachother, suddenly, no one can shot or make plays. They barely get to 50 point mark at the half or midway through the 3rd Q. People yelled for Rick to be fired, well....

Rick's tenure was attached to Donnie staying. So I would be okay with the results of Rick leaving as long as Donnie didn't renew his Maverick contract for another 15 years.

If Rick is in a Dallas bench right now, it means Mark kept Donnie and fired Vegas Bob. Donnie in the front office for another 5 years would make the team go no where either way. Dirk, Luka and conpany all signed off on the Jason Kidd hiring. I wonder what they saw there.

[arkuo]

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Without Luka? No way. It's very questionable, if they will be playoff team playing full strength, not with playing like that.

You’re not going to sit Luka and he’s not going to agree with tanking the season.

Which was exactly my point. The Mavs can't tank with Luka and they won't sit him, it's a moot point.

If they wanted to build through the draft, then they had to
tank better in Luka's rookie season to keep that pick and they had to not trade for KP. It's too late now.

They were arguably 1 loss away from keeping that pick in 2019 and 4 loss away from the Hawks who got the 4th pick and Hunter. It was, again, a lack of forward thinking to not get rid of the starters sooner and to finish the season 4-3 (a game won in OT).

The Mavs mishandled another situation, which is all they've been doing since drafting Luka and Brunson.

To this day, it still surprises me how Donnie was able to keep his job for 20 years. Mafia boss level of zero accountsbilty

[Archx]

Luka and conpany all signed off on the Jason Kidd hiring. I wonder what they saw there.

He had nothing to do with Kidd hiring. People just make assumptions. He even said he stays away from front office stuff. Maybe they sent him a text during Olympics that they are thinking of hiring him and he quickly said sure. I mean what's he suppose to do? He doesn't have the knowledge who's a great coach in the league, he's too young and inexperienced.

But anyway, i think that the FO messed up again, just like with the players and now with the coach.

[Darren]

The Mavs sucks. The Management and coaching are chaotic. The team is lacking direction. The roster is awfully untalented. With a collection of shooters, the Mavs still can't shoot.

[boogiezen]

When DFS missed the easy lay up I just .

I want the media to call out Cuban's as*! Made him accountable! Tell him on his face that NO BIG TIME free agent wants to play in Dallas because of you! I want somebody to hurt his EGO!

THJ belongs to the bench.
DFS belongs to the bench.
KP is not a PF!
And Powell is not an NBA player! And yet Dallas offered him 11m per yr!