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Re: Knicks - Pelicans PG: RJ CAME TO PLAY 

Post#341 » by Mister Ed » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:09 am

Clyde_Style wrote:Bedtime thought:

Obi is becoming something entirely different and maybe is going to be a special player

His defense is maturing very rapidly. He’s making reads and is already a shot block threat. He had one stretch tonight where he was everywhere for a few minutes and very disruptive

And the guy is a legit passer. The more he plays the more he flashes the ability to make plays

This guy needs more minutes. Give him some of Randle’s minutes. Obi is going to be a piece for us


He has made several blocks that we marveled about Robinson making, blocking an outside shot while being behind another knick player. Seems to be just another kid putting in the work ethic to improve and he has, and he is a good rebounder. Another guy easy to root for, truly homegrown.
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Post#342 » by Separatista » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:11 am

3toheadmelo wrote:people really wanna trade randle for this fatty lmfao
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And you cant say extra padding or thick sweaters as an excuse, just look at zion’s hips. Man is big
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Post#343 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:11 am

I don't wanna trade Julius for Zion but...any disgruntled star trade can be centered around Julius and scraps. I'm not gutting the team to build around Randle. He's not that guy!
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Post#344 » by robillionaire » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:13 am

thebuzzardman wrote:Knicks fans seem to be adjusting to the team actually being good and being in the lead most of the time. Understandable.


I keep thinking we must be getting pranked by the universe. I don’t want to let myself get my hopes up too high about this team

But if RJ plays like he did tonight on a consistent basis I’d have no hesitation saying this team is a legitimate contender. I’m not expecting that right away but hopefully it’s a true glimpse of the player he will be in the future
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Post#345 » by DaGawd » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:13 am

Our best hope is RJ developing into a legit number 1 cause we already know Randle ain’t it. He’s a really good number 2. Still a long way to go for RJ to get there but he’s starting to show signs.. you love to see it. I will gladly eat some crow if that materializes
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Post#346 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:14 am

duetta wrote:Knicks are developing a tendency to play down to the level of their opponents. It's not an uncommon tendency.

Monster game by RJ, solid game by Walker and Fournier. Randle needs to get his head out of his backside.

Walker may be playing too many minutes this early. Rose can play more.

IQ is still struggling but I have no doubt that he's hasn't lost the ability to shoot. He's just going through a bad patch at his point. We need to get him back playing well if only to restore his value as a trade asset.

Burks dribbles too much out there for my taste. That second team offense is not flowing at the moment. None of the 2nd team guards were attempting to get Obi any opportunities tonight.

Win is a win - and this was a game we needed to win given how beat up New Orleans is.


I disagree with the playing down part, to an extent.

The Knicks have been leading for almost every quarter they played, other than the game they lost. I'm not going to check and prove it - loosely, it seems the case. They've basically been playing with the lead or damn near.
And they've been doing this without really playing WELL.

I've seen this script before, but the Knicks were always on the other side of it. The clearly better team leads most of the game. The Knicks, or in this case now, the Knicks opponents, expend a lot of energy trying to make runs, only to run out of gas or get out-talented by a couple of baskets, and lose at the end.

The Knicks are that good team now. Who have a pretty decent amount of room for improvement, yet are still leading for most of the quarters and are 5-1.

Last year, the Knicks needed 90% of the team to meet or exceed their games, in order to have a chance to win. This year, 2 or 3 guys can be somewhat "off" and Knicks pretty much leading the game wire to wire.
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Post#347 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:17 am

    robillionaire wrote:I see the hawks are getting blown out and Trae is once again playing very poorly and only has 4 FT attempts. I think he is shook


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    Post#348 » by Mister Ed » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:18 am

    Are We Ther Yet wrote:5-1 and we all see flaws in things. If we get it together and improve? Wow. This is team ball. No one person has to carry us! We spread the wealth and get wins. Most of you have never seen this! I can't remember the last time I have. I expect wins now. Yes... it's early...blah blah blah. We aren't even clicking on all cylinders but...we escape with the wins. No star. No respect. Just results. RJ IS A **** STUD! Let him rock. I have NEVER witnessed a draft pick of ours grow like this. Not since Ewing. I don't expect much but...this team is looking like a problem! Long season bit..at least we can root for wins and get them! Bring on the elite teams. We got this!


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    Post#349 » by Separatista » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:20 am

    Im completely wrong on obi and Im embarass to open the “is obi a bust” thread because of what i posted there. We were giddy at IQ being a surprise breakout late pick and just strike it as obi and quickley switch draft position and call it a win.
    But as early as the playoffs, obi was showing more why he deserve that 8th pick. He got that drive to excell. And I think he and RJ would compliment each other alot.
    I still have hope for IQ, i think this is an adjustment phase for him, but obi needs minutes. He’s developing fast and in line with Barret.
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    Post#350 » by K_ick_God » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:21 am

    omerome wrote:
    knicks94 wrote:It’s time to include RJ in a package for Lillard!

    No.


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    Post#351 » by robillionaire » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:22 am

    thebuzzardman wrote:
    duetta wrote:Knicks are developing a tendency to play down to the level of their opponents. It's not an uncommon tendency.

    Monster game by RJ, solid game by Walker and Fournier. Randle needs to get his head out of his backside.

    Walker may be playing too many minutes this early. Rose can play more.

    IQ is still struggling but I have no doubt that he's hasn't lost the ability to shoot. He's just going through a bad patch at his point. We need to get him back playing well if only to restore his value as a trade asset.

    Burks dribbles too much out there for my taste. That second team offense is not flowing at the moment. None of the 2nd team guards were attempting to get Obi any opportunities tonight.

    Win is a win - and this was a game we needed to win given how beat up New Orleans is.


    I disagree with the playing down part, to an extent.

    The Knicks have been leading for almost every quarter they played, other than the game they lost. I'm not going to check and prove it - loosely, it seems the case. They've basically been playing with the lead or damn near.
    And they've been doing this without really playing WELL.

    I've seen this script before, but the Knicks were always on the other side of it. The clearly better team leads most of the game. The Knicks, or in this case now, the Knicks opponents, expend a lot of energy trying to make runs, only to run out of gas or get out-talented by a couple of baskets, and lose at the end.

    The Knicks are that good team now. Who have a pretty decent amount of room for improvement, yet are still leading for most of the quarters and are 5-1.

    Last year, the Knicks needed 90% of the team to meet or exceed their games, in order to have a chance to win. This year, 2 or 3 guys can be somewhat "off" and Knicks pretty much leading the game wire to wire.


    Even in the loss we won the first 3 quarters (up 2 after the 1st, 5 at halftime, and 6 after the 3rd) we only lost the 4th quarter after Terrence Ross scored 22 points in the quarter because of course he did. But feels like we’ve had the lead for the most part of the season.
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    Post#352 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:25 am

    Mister Ed wrote:
    Are We Ther Yet wrote:5-1 and we all see flaws in things. If we get it together and improve? Wow. This is team ball. No one person has to carry us! We spread the wealth and get wins. Most of you have never seen this! I can't remember the last time I have. I expect wins now. Yes... it's early...blah blah blah. We aren't even clicking on all cylinders but...we escape with the wins. No star. No respect. Just results. RJ IS A **** STUD! Let him rock. I have NEVER witnessed a draft pick of ours grow like this. Not since Ewing. I don't expect much but...this team is looking like a problem! Long season bit..at least we can root for wins and get them! Bring on the elite teams. We got this!


    Team ball. If you were lucky, or old, you saw it in the championship era. There’s a reason that Reed, Frazier, Deb, Bradley, Monroe are in the hall of fame - team ball - maybe they didn’t invent it, or maybe they did, but they perfected it before all these other teams you see in the modern era that people are so amazed about. Been there done that


    Wish I could talk about the Frazier Willis etc era. I cannot. I was in diapers last time we won. I can talk about the Coked out PG and the blown out knee if Bernard. I was a ABA DR J fan as a kid.

    Needlessly said...we haven't played team ball since 1999 IMO. We haven't had a PG in decades. This is rare air in the Dolan era. 5-1! isn't parade worthy but...it's fun for a change.
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    Post#353 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:26 am

    HarthorneWingo wrote:For all you’re complaining, Randle was 4-9 FGs. He wasn’t chucking away at all. He also had 6 rebounds, 4 assists, only 2 turnovers, and a +2.


    It's really not just Shamms and Melo etc that are horrible people. It's 99% of the board.
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    Post#354 » by Capn'O » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:26 am

    robillionaire wrote:
    F N 11 wrote:-Fournier causally shooting 45% from 3 on 8 attempts lol
    -Kemba casually shooting 58% from 3 and 1.7 spg, best since 12-13


    Rose over 50% from 3 as well. That’s awesome but what worries me is that the games have been close and I know there’s no way those averages can hold up mathematically over the course of a season. So hope when they’re off others can step up


    This is what I expected to happen in the Magic game. They let them hang around and then put the nail in at the end. Clocked in just enough to win.
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    Post#355 » by DaGawd » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:27 am

    I’m beginning to be concerned about IQ and Obi.. they’ve regressed..
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    Post#356 » by stuporman » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:30 am

    Here's the trippy part.....the Knicks have yet to fire on all cylinders on either side of the court and still pulled off a 5-1 start to the season.

    Mental mistakes on defense, players still trying to settle into their roles on offense and hesitation in the clutch yet figuring out ways to win in the end.

    Top rated offense so far even with inconsistent performances and a fairly respectable defense though there are lapses that need to be cleaned up.
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    Post#357 » by blueNorange » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:30 am

    3toheadmelo wrote:people really wanna trade randle for this fatty lmfao
    Read on Twitter

    randle wasn’t always in the best of shape himself :D

    but good to see randle deferring to the #1
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    Post#358 » by K_ick_God » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:31 am

    DaGawd wrote:I’m beginning to be concerned about IQ and Obi.. they’ve regressed..


    Obi? He's not regressing.
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    Post#359 » by TheGreenArrow » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:32 am

    3toheadmelo wrote:people really wanna trade randle for this fatty lmfao
    Read on Twitter


    It’s the new way to force yourself out of somewhere you don’t want to be!!!!!

    He clearly doesn’t want to be there!!!!!!

    Once he comes(make no mistake he’s coming)here he’ll be in tip top shape!!!!!!!
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    Post#360 » by Juggynaut » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:33 am

    DaGawd wrote:I’m beginning to be concerned about IQ and Obi.. they’ve regressed..


    IQ's been bad, but Obi has been great. He's not shooting well but has improved leaps and bound in other areas. He only played 10 minutes tonight.
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