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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#241 » by Betta Bulleavit » Mon Nov 1, 2021 6:52 pm

ikeziskash wrote:Is Hassan Whiteside available?

There are probably only a handful of guys in this league that I absolutely want no part of. Whiteside is one of them. I don’t like his attitude and I don’t like what he’s about. Yes, he does bring a defensive presence but that doesn’t make up for the attitude and character flaws that he brings with him. That’s a hard pass for me.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#242 » by ChettheJet » Mon Nov 1, 2021 6:57 pm

A couple of new names people have just mentioned could work

Anybody you get could get hurt in game 1 or game 77 it's just that Isaac is more likely to get injured and it's a lower priced Otto Porter jr all over again.

Kevin Knox would be interesting, I honestly forgot he was still on the Knicks, he sure didn't come close to the floor against the Bulls . He dd well as a rookie and then Thibs showed up and Knox was on the outs. He could be one of those guys who doesn't take to Thibs style of coaching, doesn't have the stomach for the NY way of life and NY media. I wouldn't reject him as this one year to see what he's got. The change of scenery is what some guys need

I would ask if they were sold on Obi Toppin, he played briefly but well against the Bulls after being stuck to the bench last year. With Randle signed long term maybe they don't want to hope Toppin improves with limited minutes. DJJ seems like the prototype Thibs player, long arms rebounder solid defender. Their 2022 FRP is lottery protected to CHAR, it doesn't appear they will get the Laker pick. But hey Thibs doesn't trust rookies to play so maybe the expiring contract of DJJ would give them room for a veteran FA.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#243 » by Betta Bulleavit » Mon Nov 1, 2021 8:59 pm

See, I’d kick the tires on Bagley if the price was right. I think that a huge part of his issue is just needing a change of scenery. He soured on them. They soured on him. And the relationship is simply irreparable at this point. Furthermore, I just can’t trust the Kings to get stuff right. Especially when it comes to the development of talent.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#244 » by gardenofsound » Mon Nov 1, 2021 9:01 pm

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Read on Twitter


@ShamsCharania: Sources: Phoenix is declining center Jalen Smith’s third-year rookie option ($4.7M), making him an unrestricted free agent in 2022. The 6-foot-10 big man averaged 9.5 points and 8 rebounds in four preseason games after posting 16.25 PPG/12.5 RPG in summer league.

I know the thread is about this year in particular, but I'd take a flyer on him next season at the minimum or in a two-way contract. He was supposed to be a small ball center who could provide weak-side rim protection and shooting.


Kinda worrying that they're giving up on him after 1 season. Does he suck in practice or is this a way to avoid the tax?


Very possibly both - but he's young.


Might be able to absorb him into the Theis TPE this year itself. Seems like a cost saving move. Honestly makes no sense to me. They could have traded him for an expiring pretty easily I would have thought.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#245 » by HomoSapien » Mon Nov 1, 2021 9:23 pm

gardenofsound wrote:
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Kinda worrying that they're giving up on him after 1 season. Does he suck in practice or is this a way to avoid the tax?


Very possibly both - but he's young.


Might be able to absorb him into the Theis TPE this year itself. Seems like a cost saving move. Honestly makes no sense to me. They could have traded him for an expiring pretty easily I would have thought.


As long as Sarver is there, Phoenix will always be a great target. They're driven by saving money, not making the team better. For all we know, Crowder could be quietly available if it helps them enough financially.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#246 » by The Evidence » Mon Nov 1, 2021 9:31 pm

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If Thibs won't play you, you're trash.

Except that he's literally started trash before in the form of Keith Bogans and Ronnie Brewer.
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Re: Options to fix the PF holeIts 

Post#247 » by fleet » Mon Nov 1, 2021 9:36 pm

Betta Bulleavit wrote:See, I’d kick the tires on Bagley if the price was right. I think that a huge part of his issue is just needing a change of scenery. He soured on them. They soured on him. And the relationship is simply irreparable at this point. Furthermore, I just can’t trust the Kings to get stuff right. Especially when it comes to the development of talent.

It isn’t out of the question because the Bulls dont need to replace a lot of production. You would like to do better, but I think some people are getting a little too ambitious in the thread. Just need a big body that can absorb some of Pat’s minutes and not **** the bed.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#248 » by Dan Z » Mon Nov 1, 2021 11:50 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Hard to make any trades now as teams don’t know where they stand in the league as it’s too early. Washington is off to an amazing start, they aren’t going to dump a major contributor right now.


Harrell's not a bad idea, but I agree with you that Washington won't trade him now that they're off to a good start.

What I'd be willing to offer in a trade (I'm not specifically talking about Harrell or any player) is minor stuff like 2nd round picks plus DDJ or Alize. I might even add in the Portland pick if it was the right deal. I know those aren't the best assets, but maybe for the right player it would work.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#249 » by bulls_downunder » Tue Nov 2, 2021 12:27 am

Potential Low Cost Options
Kenrich Williams
6-6 210
$2,000,000 this and next season
high motor
solid switchable defender
catch & shoot offense only
38% 3PT shooter on 385 attempts / 4 attempts per 36

My Preferred Target
Danuel House
6-6 220
$3,894,000 this season
solid, switchable defender
catch & shoot offense only
36% 3PT shooter on 752 attempts / 6 attempts per 36
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#250 » by LateNight » Tue Nov 2, 2021 2:04 am

Not sure I’m interested in a trade right now. The guys we have are all contributing - probably just need a FA pick up (if anything)
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#251 » by sco » Tue Nov 2, 2021 2:16 am

DJJ...mike drop
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#252 » by NecessaryEvil » Tue Nov 2, 2021 3:13 am

what hole?

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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#253 » by biggestbullsfan » Tue Nov 2, 2021 4:32 am

The best thing that came from the Knicks loss is that we are finally playing Bradley and we have size on the floor when Vuc is sitting. I think it makes us much better when the bench plays.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#254 » by biggestbullsfan » Tue Nov 2, 2021 4:43 am

If we keep this play up, we are going to be really desirable for some buyout candidates in the future. Hopefully someone really good lol
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#255 » by Repeat 3-peat » Tue Nov 2, 2021 5:01 am

Brandon Clarke- DNP (Not injury related via google research)
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#256 » by kodo » Tue Nov 2, 2021 5:07 am

Repeat 3-peat wrote:Brandon Clarke- DNP (Not injury related via google research)


Noticed that as well. Looks like Slow-Mo & Tillman are the bench bigs. He should be very available.

DJJ + Clarke would work for me as a PF solution.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#257 » by DxC17 » Tue Nov 2, 2021 5:32 am

DJJ looked really good down the stretch. Fantastic effort, switched really well & did a solid job staying in front + contesting Tatum/Brown. He covers a lot of ground with his 7’0 wingspan. He may be more of a natural 3 but he certainly fits the mold of what Billy is looking for in the 4 spot. Honestly DJJ + Bradley isn’t bad size on the second unit, and they have been bringing a lot of energy. 9 rebounds today between the two of them, that’s almost 20% of the Bulls 50 total tonight. Not too shabby for 33 minutes of basketball. Ayo is also proving himself to be a willing hustle rebounder.

If you figure they’ve worked their way into the rotation, plus Ayo forcing Billy’s hand & Coby coming back that’s already a 10 man rotation:

Ball/Caruso
Lavine/Coby (when he’s back)
DDR/Ayo
Green/DJJ
Vuc/Bradley

Not a lot of other playing time to divvy up with TBJ & Alize waiting in the shadows. Think there’s a likely chance we stay put until the deadline when the tampering investigation is over & the team’s needs are more pronounced.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#258 » by BullsFTW » Tue Nov 2, 2021 6:33 am

    Repeat 3-peat wrote:Brandon Clarke- DNP (Not injury related via google research)

    Maybe trading TBJ for Clarke is enough. Add in a 2nd Rd pick if necessary.
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    Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

    Post#259 » by TheJordanRule » Tue Nov 2, 2021 11:08 am

    The Raptors only played Chris Boucher 10 minutes yesterday. I’m starting to think they may not understand that his potential and production are borderline elite. If we get Brandon Clark or Chris Boucher, we may have an NBA title team on our hands. Imagine what we can do with a defensively imposing, offensively above average big man mixed in with the Carushows and Lonzos.
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    Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

    Post#260 » by MGB8 » Tue Nov 2, 2021 1:23 pm

    Speaking of pipe dreams, I wonder what it would take to get OG from the Raps? He's exactly who AKME want Pat to become - just years down the line (and without a bad wrist injury).

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