Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Nwora in protocols

LuessiT · Post #161 » by **LuessiT** » Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:03 pm

JayMKE wrote:Another rim protector would be nice

I disagree. If course we could use someone now but assuming Brook is healthy we really don't need one. And we should prioritize for the POs and not for RS.

DrWood · Post #162 » by **DrWood** » Mon Nov 1, 2021 12:33 am

giannis and 1 wrote:
DrWood wrote:PJ Tucker accomplished far less than many of you think, apparently.

Yet far more than statistics indicate. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

Only in that he does have defensive flexibility. So he could be a slightly below average player guarding different positions.

raferfenix · Post #163 » by **raferfenix** » Mon Nov 1, 2021 12:55 am

LuessiT wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Another rim protector would be nice

I disagree. If course we could use someone now but assuming Brook is healthy we really don't need one. And we should prioritize for the POs and not for RS.

So I don’t know if we necessarily need another rim protector specifically. But someone who can guard bigs.

It’d be better if we wouldn’t have to bank our chances on repeating on Lopez’s health.

Portis becoming a more consistently good defender would help there too. Even then though hopefully Nwora or Semi or Thanasis or big man TBD can play some D when it counts if we need them to when injuries inevitably occur during a long playoff run.

DrWood · Post #164 » by **DrWood** » Mon Nov 1, 2021 8:05 am

raferfenix wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Another rim protector would be nice

I disagree. If course we could use someone now but assuming Brook is healthy we really don't need one. And we should prioritize for the POs and not for RS.

So I don’t know if we necessarily need another rim protector specifically. But someone who can guard bigs.

It’d be better if we wouldn’t have to bank our chances on repeating on Lopez’s health.

Portis becoming a more consistently good defender would help there too. Even then though hopefully Nwora or Semi or Thanasis or big man TBD can play some D when it counts if we need them to when injuries inevitably occur during a long playoff run.

I think they're counting on Semi to be that guy.

raferfenix · Post #165 » by **raferfenix** » Mon Nov 1, 2021 1:40 pm

DrWood wrote:I think they're counting on Semi to be that guy.

I don’t know if we are counting on Semi so much as taking a flier on him. Also Thanasis, who Horst says he is “so proud of” and “has a lot of upside,” and whether Horst really believes that or not I’m sure Giannis is appreciative for the kind words and opportunity for his brother.

Speaking of which, here is that long Eric Nehm interview where Horst laid out how we plan to play differently without PJ, as even the best case scenario for Semi and Thanasis they aren’t providing the vet savvy and bball IQ Tucker brought:

We all know we wouldn’t be champions without P.J. Tucker, and we’ll forever be grateful for what he brought to our team.

I have no illusions that we’re going to be able to replace what P.J. Tucker gave to us — his heart, soul, grit, toughness. His defensive ability is elite and there are not that many people that can do what he does. Our whole thing was, can we use those resources now and going forward to hopefully be better in a different way? Can we be better offensively? Can we be more versatile with ballhandlers and attackers?

Did our team toughness increase through that postseason run? Yes, because P.J. Tucker played a big part in showing us the way.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theathletic.com/2845304/2021/09/24/a-conversation-with-bucks-general-manager-jon-horst-defending-the-title-his-offseason-approach-and-more/%3famp

thonnisbeastley · Post #166 » by **thonnisbeastley** » Mon Nov 1, 2021 10:07 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Has there been any DDV update? Feel like no one ever talks about when he will return. I'm starting to get nervous

Pachinko_ · Post #167 » by **Pachinko_** » Tue Nov 2, 2021 2:42 am

LuessiT wrote:
JayMKE wrote:Another rim protector would be nice

I disagree. If course we could use someone now but assuming Brook is healthy we really don't need one. And we should prioritize for the POs and not for RS.

To be honest watching Giannis all by himself in the paint does make me nervous, I mean yeah Brook and Bobby are enough but people do get injured, maybe we needed an experienced cheap 4th PF-C just in case... Mamu is nowhere near ready and maybe he'll never be.

Pachinko_ · Post #168 » by **Pachinko_** » Tue Nov 2, 2021 7:16 am

PJ Tucker was 10th in minutes per game up to the point that DDV got hurt. Losing what was basically supposed to be your 10th man is hardly something to worry about, especially when you've just added Allen, Hill, and DDV is scheduled to come back at some point. We didn't lose a player, instead we found the players this team was always meant to work with.

Personally watching Tucker unable to keep KD to even 45 instead of 50 and then having to talk about his shoe size is most definitely not something I'm going to miss.

LuessiT · Post #169 » by **LuessiT** » Tue Nov 2, 2021 11:17 am

Pachinko_ wrote:PJ Tucker was 10th in minutes per game up to the point that DDV got hurt. Losing what was basically supposed to be your 10th man is hardly something to worry about, especially when you've just added Allen, Hill, and DDV is scheduled to come back at some point. We didn't lose a player, instead we found the players this team was always meant to work with.

Personally watching Tucker unable to keep KD to even 45 instead of 50 and then having to talk about his shoe size is most definitely not something I'm going to miss.

The way I see it we lost one playoff piece in Tucker and gained two in Allen/Hill. Now we lost a forward and gained two guards so there's some imbalance we'll have to fix, but the roster is certainly better than last year.

SupremeHustle · Post #170 » by **SupremeHustle** » Tue Nov 2, 2021 12:51 pm

Which one of you stole my bit?

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buckboy · Post #171 » by **buckboy** » Tue Nov 2, 2021 1:15 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Has there been any DDV update? Feel like no one ever talks about when he will return. I'm starting to get nervous

FWIW, and I stress that, I talked to a guy in the organization that says after the all-star break. This guy's very dialed in.

crkone · Post #172 » by **crkone** » Tue Nov 2, 2021 1:46 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:Which one of you stole my bit?

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Bucks: Missing 4 to 6 starters/top reserves.

This dude: Bucks really are needing a Bismack Biyombo on the bench.

ackypoo · Post #173 » by **ackypoo** » Tue Nov 2, 2021 1:46 pm

Middleton out with covid, ugh.

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Baddy Chuck · Post #174 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Nov 2, 2021 1:49 pm

crkone wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Which one of you stole my bit?

Read on Twitter
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Bucks: Missing 4 to 6 starters/top reserves.

This dude: Bucks really are needing a Bismack Biyombo on the bench.

Oh no, am I that dude?

raferfenix · Post #175 » by **raferfenix** » Tue Nov 2, 2021 1:51 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:Which one of you stole my bit?

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Would be pretty nice to have a veteran backup that could play high IQ and high intensity defense across the 3, 4 and 5 spots right about now, much less in the playoffs when injuries hit.

Oh but we have Semi. So we should be good. Or something.

And our owners got to save money! #OwnTheFuture

Brewhoopfan · Post #176 » by **Brewhoopfan** » Tue Nov 2, 2021 4:23 pm

raferfenix wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Which one of you stole my bit?

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Would be pretty nice to have a veteran backup that could play high IQ and high intensity defense across the 3, 4 and 5 spots right about now, much less in the playoffs when injuries hit.

Oh but we have Semi. So we should be good. Or something.

And our owners got to save money! #OwnTheFuture

The backups name is Bobby. He has been injured too. I'd much rather them play small than drag some 7' corpse up and down the floor. Unfortunately, injuries have decimated the back court too. Robinson and Thanasis aren't NBA players, and Nwora has disappointed. All that said, just make shots at an average clip and they're 5-2 right now. Giannis and Khris aren't exactly lighting it up to start the year either. Just need to work through this rough patch. :dontknow:

Post #177 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue Nov 2, 2021 5:00 pm

ackypoo wrote:Middleton out with covid, ugh.

I thought Bud said yesterday that MIddleton didn't have Covid and it wasn't related to that? Also, do we know why Zora is out?

Post #178 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue Nov 2, 2021 5:16 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
ackypoo wrote:Middleton out with covid, ugh.

I thought Bud said yesterday that MIddleton didn't have Covid and it wasn't related to that? Also, do we know why Zora is out?

Bud did say Mids did not have Covid so maybe it's a close contact situation, I'm not sure.

All they've said about Zora is she's out for "medical reasons". Certainly could be Covid, it's been 2 weeks now since she missed the opener.

crkone · Post #179 » by **crkone** » Tue Nov 2, 2021 7:19 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
ackypoo wrote:Middleton out with covid, ugh.

I thought Bud said yesterday that MIddleton didn't have Covid and it wasn't related to that? Also, do we know why Zora is out?

Bud did say Mids did not have Covid so maybe it's a close contact situation, I'm not sure.

All they've said about Zora is she's out for "medical reasons". Certainly could be Covid, it's been 2 weeks now since she missed the opener.

Yeah this is it.

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emunney · Post #180 » by **emunney** » Tue Nov 2, 2021 7:27 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:PJ Tucker was 10th in minutes per game up to the point that DDV got hurt. Losing what was basically supposed to be your 10th man is hardly something to worry about, especially when you've just added Allen, Hill, and DDV is scheduled to come back at some point. We didn't lose a player, instead we found the players this team was always meant to work with.

Personally watching Tucker unable to keep KD to even 45 instead of 50 and then having to talk about his shoe size is most definitely not something I'm going to miss.

Just because we stumbled ass-backwards into the lineup that won us a title doesn't mean that lineup didn't win us a title.

Also, bad individual defense by Tucker was not the reason for Durant going nuts in that series.