The Tomjas Thread

[Tomjas]

I wish Ben realized how few contending teams there...with him, we're probably one of just 4-5 teams with a realistic shot to win the whole thing.

Tobias still needs to go though.

I am a Simmons fan BUT it’s ridiculous

This is Shaq & Kobe before they have won a thing

He’s delusional if he believes that being traded anywhere will be the source of happiness

Morey can’t sort it, Doc can’t, lesser players can’t

Only Joel & Ben can

Some way, some how, they need to talk it out

[Ferry Avenue]

I wish Ben realized how few contending teams there...with him, we're probably one of just 4-5 teams with a realistic shot to win the whole thing.

Tobias still needs to go though.

I am a Simmons fan BUT it’s ridiculous

This is Shaq & Kobe before they have won a thing

He’s delusional if he believes that being traded anywhere will be the source of happiness

Morey can’t sort it, Doc can’t, lesser players can’t

Only Joel & Ben can

Some way, some how, they need to talk it out

You're comparing one of the best and most self-motivated players in the history of the game (Kobe) to a player at the opposite end of that spectrum (Simmons).

[Tomjas]

I wish Ben realized how few contending teams there...with him, we're probably one of just 4-5 teams with a realistic shot to win the whole thing.

Tobias still needs to go though.

I am a Simmons fan BUT it’s ridiculous

This is Shaq & Kobe before they have won a thing

He’s delusional if he believes that being traded anywhere will be the source of happiness

Morey can’t sort it, Doc can’t, lesser players can’t

Only Joel & Ben can

Some way, some how, they need to talk it out

You're comparing one of the best and most self-motivated players in the history of the game (Kobe) to a player at the opposite end of that spectrum (Simmons).

Simmons is the best defender in the nba by a long way

Good defence is all about athletic ability, iq & motivation

Let’s trade him for Dame or Fox lmfao

We’re already crap at that end but let’s see how far we can drop

[kuclas]

If you look at all of our playoff losses the past 4 season. Almost all games are decided on the last 2 min (2 possessions or less).

We simply have issues with reliable second option closer as embiid is fatigue. Shaq was never the closer. Centers are poor closers unless named the dream Hakeem.

Until we get a reliable wing/guard closer. We will be a treadmill 2nd round exit. Potentially first round exit.

[Negrodamus]

Who are we going to get that is on Ben Simmons's tier defensively? Even if Lillard, Beal, Ingram hell even if Donovan Mitchell or Tatum were available, they are decidedly worse defensively.

The point of whoever we swap Ben for is not to replace his defense but to enhance offense, especially in end of game scenarios or when Curry isn't shooting 54% (or the team isn't shooting +40%) from three.

Defense is meant to be supplemented by role players, which Ben is a super role player. You want better defense, try to get Thad Young or Jarred Vanderbilt, or Patrick Beverley. The fact that Fox, a 25ppg self creator, is possibly attainable for Ben is hilarious to me, so I play along with Ben's perceived value.

[davesilver]

Feels like we get more leverage every day. Increased pressure on underperforming teams (SAS, NOP, SAC, POR). Gradual improvement from Ben and camp. Rival teams (Boston, Nets) having issues. If we can sustain this form and Ben can come back to his same game, I think we can get something special for him

[Negrodamus]

I am concerned that Lillard is playing poorly enough that the price goes down and Morey goes for him. I'd rather take a chance on a 24 year old who averaged 25+ and is trying to make a bounce back than a 31 year old chucker who is currently going off the rails.

[ProcessDoctor]

I am concerned that Lillard is playing poorly enough that the price goes down and Morey goes for him. I'd rather take a chance on a 24 year old who averaged 25+ and is trying to make a bounce back than a 31 year old chucker who is currently going off the rails.

I think we count our blessings if we can get our hands on either. FWIW I think Fox is the much more likely outcome. It’s a mutually beneficial swap.

Tobias must go for a couple defensive role players afterwards.

[mksp]

I don't understand the rush to trade Tobias. I think he's fine, and with an actual creator at PG instead of Ben can actually thrive. Seems like a good lockerroom guy. We'd be trading a quarter for two nickels given the contract, doesn't really make sense to me.

[ProcessDoctor]

I don't understand the rush to trade Tobias. I think he's fine, and with an actual creator at PG instead of Ben can actually thrive. Seems like a good lockerroom guy. We'd be trading a quarter for two nickels given the contract, doesn't really make sense to me.

JMO, but I don’t think we would be good enough offensively to overcome how bad we are defensively. The winning formula has largely been to have a top 10 ORTG and DRTG. I don’t think Tobias is helping us achieve either of those, esp defensively.

[Samson]

I don't understand the rush to trade Tobias. I think he's fine, and with an actual creator at PG instead of Ben can actually thrive. Seems like a good lockerroom guy. We'd be trading a quarter for two nickels given the contract, doesn't really make sense to me.

I agree 101%. People just randomly hate him around here, and he's *precisely* the kind of guy you need and want on a Championship team. I get it , he got overpaid. He would have been given a max/supermax/every dime he could get elsewhere or here. We gave up assets for him, I for one am glad we have him. *AND HE'S A GOOD DUDE*, which is no small thing these days.

He's the kind of guy who makes a difference in the end. People need to take some chill pills and chillax.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I wish Ben realized how few contending teams there...with him, we're probably one of just 4-5 teams with a realistic shot to win the whole thing.

Tobias still needs to go though.

I am a Simmons fan BUT it’s ridiculous

This is Shaq & Kobe before they have won a thing

He’s delusional if he believes that being traded anywhere will be the source of happiness

Morey can’t sort it, Doc can’t, lesser players can’t

Only Joel & Ben can

Some way, some how, they need to talk it out

You're comparing one of the best and most self-motivated players in the history of the game (Kobe) to a player at the opposite end of that spectrum (Simmons).

I don't think he was doing that at all. He wasn't comparing Ben Simmons to Kobe Bryant in the slightest. That's you creating a classic narrative that isn't even there just so that you can be a jerk in a sports forum. People do it all the time. No....I honestly think he's just comparing the situations as they were. With that said, I don't see the comparison because Shaq/Kobe had already won three rings before the bad stuff started between them. Ben and Jo haven't been able to get out of the second round. Hell, this isn't even Shaq/Penny Hardaway...It's pretty much all Ben at this point just being a baby and not being able to handle the moments or pressures that come with being a max contract type of player. It sucks for everyone involved because all Ben really has to do is own up about things, move past it, and improve as a person/player. It sounds easy when I put it that way, but being able to do those things is what makes players like Kobe Bryant so great. That's what separates them from the rest. Ben has all the talent in the world, all the opportunity right at his feet and he can't see past his own ego to make any of this work.
One thing correct about that post is that only Ben and Jo can figure this whole thing out. Them together gets us as close to a championship as we're gonna get.

[Skates]

Feels like we get more leverage every day. Increased pressure on underperforming teams (SAS, NOP, SAC, POR). Gradual improvement from Ben and camp. Rival teams (Boston, Nets) having issues. If we can sustain this form and Ben can come back to his same game, I think we can get something special for him

Almost feels like we have a guy in charge who knows what he is doing by waiting and not rushing into a trade him for anything deal. (-;

[Slacktard]

It feels nice to see other fanbases that were trolling the Sixers threads on here to now be having hot takes and seeing glaring weaknesses in their own teams.

[Murray_17]

It feels nice to see other fanbases that were trolling the Sixers threads on here to now be having hot takes and seeing glaring weaknesses in their own teams.

It was always bound to happen, all teams make adjustements in the off season but not all of them can win.

[Skates]

And some teams somehow think that copying the EB move of acquiring Josh Richardson and Al Horford as their big summer moves would somehow work out.

[Philly's Best]

And some teams somehow think that copying the EB move of acquiring Josh Richardson and Al Horford as their big summer moves would somehow work out.

[ProcessDoctor]

I'd ship out Shake in any Simmons/Fox deal. I'd try to bring Harkless back home too. Ben/Shake for Fox/Harkless.


Fox(32)/Maxey(16)
Curry(28)/Korkmaz(20)
Green(24)/Thybulle(24)
Harris(32)/Niang(16)
Embiid(30)/Drummond(18)


Fox/Maxey/Springer
Curry/Korkmaz/Joe
Green/Thybulle/Harkless
Harris/Niang/Reed
Embiid/Drummond/Bassey


Do we win a chip within the next 3 years?

[emptygator]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32535761/philadelphia-76ers-frustrated-ben-simmons-unwilling-meet-team-doctors

This guy is a moron. If you are trying to play the mental health card, then at least meet with the team doctor/ Sports psychologists to make it look like you are making an effort to get better...OR meet the terms of your contract!

Please continue to fine the man.

[Mik317]

eh

meeting w/ an outside source instead of a sixer appointed one makes sense. The outside source is an impartial party.

still coulld be lying just to get paid but not meeting with sixers docs does not prove that alone.