What do we do with the season now?

[Note30]

This is obviously not the start most of us thought we would have. What do most of you think we should do?

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[Krapinsky]

Trade for Simmons

[Neeva]

Wolves have essentially missed out on two out of their last three high lotto picks, drafting the bust Culver and then giving their last lottery pick for overpaid Dlo. If they had Herro and Mobley instead things would be so bright..this franchise can’t afford to completely miss out on high lotto picks it’s basically the only way they can improve.

[shangrila]

Obviously after 7 games we’ve seen enough. Burn it all down.

Literally. Burn the stadium down and salt the earth.

Nothing is repairable, the defence from the last few games is enough to convince us all that it’s the forever defence (but not the good defence from the start of the season, forget about that. Fool’s gold) and the offence is clearly rotted to the core and incapable of anyone, for example, managing to reach their career averages again. It’s hopeless.

In all seriousness I’m surprised most of you haven’t turned on Ant yet.

[Calinks]

We are still building this iteration of the team, all you can do is put your head down and keep building up. Shots will start to fall and the defense has to get back to a top 12 level. The talent of this team can be around .500. The team has to find a way to build an identity and get there.

Going to be a lot of ups and downs and but the goal should still be to improve and make the play in. If we come up very short of that by the end of the year, then we can look into blowing it up or another route.

[winforlose]

Earlier we were asked in a different thread to predict the record through the first 8. I said 5-3. A win tomorrow puts us one game below where I thought we were. Granted a loss would be very bad, and is entirely possible, but so is a win. In our losses two things have been clear. 1, Our 3 point shooting is not sufficient, 2, our role players are not playing their roles. Is this the new normal, I don’t think so. It could be. Prince, and Beasley might have developed a tragic case of ISS (Irritable Shooters Syndrome,) and as a result can never hit consistent deep balls again. MCD might have caught a case of the Yipps and gone from steal of the drafts to collapse and washout player of the year. JMAC might have hit has head and developed “I shouldn’t be in the rotation syndrome) but who are we kidding he didn’t need head trauma for that. I could go on, but nothing I have seen is either irreversible or critical yet. While it is true we are underperforming and we badly need to make a move to add size, the NBA has seen teams make comebacks from way worse than 3-4 and make the playoffs. We have the talent, we need to find the rhythm.

[Takingbaconback]

Go get Buddy Hield without giving up Beasley. Lottery protected 1st + Layman + Okogie +Prince
The problem is and always has been shooting with this team. They can clearly play defense, but when you see everyone bricking throughout the game it kills the morale and swag. In today's NBA, the biggest energy and momentum injection comes from a barrage of 3s not dunks or a great defensive play. There is no Detroit Pistons pounding their chest shutting you down under 60 points or knocking guys onto the floor. If your opponent begins to run with the game with 3s and your team can't match it (which this team doesn't have the shooters to do it), the team shuts down on defense.

Buddy wants to start in this league and dude shoots over 40% from 3 and over 86% from FT. He would be wolves best shooter immediately. Finch can play Beasley and Hield together if they need more firepower. And stop playing McLaughlin, he isn't NBA caliber.

DLo/Hield/ANT/Vanderbilt/KAT
PatBev/Beasley/Bolmaro/Jmac/Reid

[Note30]

Obviously after 7 games we’ve seen enough. Burn it all down.

Literally. Burn the stadium down and salt the earth.

Nothing is repairable, the defence from the last few games is enough to convince us all that it’s the forever defence (but not the good defence from the start of the season, forget about that. Fool’s gold) and the offence is clearly rotted to the core and incapable of anyone, for example, managing to reach their career averages again. It’s hopeless.

In all seriousness I’m surprised most of you haven’t turned on Ant yet.

Outside of a few role players this is the same team as last year. It's not 7 games.

[Krapinsky]

Obviously after 7 games we’ve seen enough. Burn it all down.

Literally. Burn the stadium down and salt the earth.

Nothing is repairable, the defence from the last few games is enough to convince us all that it’s the forever defence (but not the good defence from the start of the season, forget about that. Fool’s gold) and the offence is clearly rotted to the core and incapable of anyone, for example, managing to reach their career averages again. It’s hopeless.

In all seriousness I’m surprised most of you haven’t turned on Ant yet.

Outside of a few role players this is the same team as last year. It's not 7 games.

Outside the blip that was the Thibs-Butler era, it's more like 17 years at this point

[Mamba4Goat]

Eventually half the team will get out of career worst shooting slumps that they started the season with. I’m not too worried. I’m still in the party that wants Simmons though. I feel like he’s the answer.

[Krapinsky]

Go get Buddy Hield without giving up Beasley. Lottery protected 1st + Layman + Okogie +Prince
The problem is and always has been shooting with this team. They can clearly play defense, but when you see everyone bricking throughout the game it kills the morale and swag. In today's NBA, the biggest energy and momentum injection comes from a barrage of 3s not dunks or a great defensive play. There is no Detroit Pistons pounding their chest shutting you down under 60 points or knocking guys onto the floor. If your opponent begins to run with the game with 3s and your team can't match it (which this team doesn't have the shooters to do it), the team shuts down on defense.

Buddy wants to start in this league and dude shoots over 40% from 3 and over 86% from FT. He would be wolves best shooter immediately. Finch can play Beasley and Hield together if they need more firepower. And stop playing McLaughlin, he isn't NBA caliber.

DLo/Hield/ANT/Vanderbilt/KAT
PatBev/Beasley/Bolmaro/Jmac/Reid

I don't think it's shooting. It's a lack of a true point guard/facilitator and the resulting lack of having any offensive rhythm that comes with it. The only thing significantly different between the end of last season and this roster is no Rubio.

Personally, I'd trade for another point guard / facilitator. I'd make Russell the 6th man.

[moss_is_1]

Obviously after 7 games we’ve seen enough. Burn it all down.

Literally. Burn the stadium down and salt the earth.

Nothing is repairable, the defence from the last few games is enough to convince us all that it’s the forever defence (but not the good defence from the start of the season, forget about that. Fool’s gold) and the offence is clearly rotted to the core and incapable of anyone, for example, managing to reach their career averages again. It’s hopeless.

In all seriousness I’m surprised most of you haven’t turned on Ant yet.

Outside of a few role players this is the same team as last year. It's not 7 games.

I think that's a bit foolish to say, team is very young. We had our first offseason with a new coach, and getting to play with everyone pretty healthy. Dlo getting banged up(and Bev missing a game) isn't ideal, but we have to hope Ant, Jaden, Naz, other young guys develop each season.

I like that it looks like the team is really trying to be more active defensively, and using a lot more energy on that end. Our offense has been brutal most games, but it will level out at some point. Beasley, Prince, Jaden, Dlo, Naz, and Ant are shooting terribly from 3 right now. Beasley, Dlo, and Prince have at least shown that are higher level shooters if nothing else those open looks should start falling more.

Absolutely would be nice to make a move for a big and play more 2 way guys instead of so many players that are 1 dimensional. Vando, Okogie and McDaniels add almost nothing offensively right now.

[moss_is_1]

Go get Buddy Hield without giving up Beasley. Lottery protected 1st + Layman + Okogie +Prince
The problem is and always has been shooting with this team. They can clearly play defense, but when you see everyone bricking throughout the game it kills the morale and swag. In today's NBA, the biggest energy and momentum injection comes from a barrage of 3s not dunks or a great defensive play. There is no Detroit Pistons pounding their chest shutting you down under 60 points or knocking guys onto the floor. If your opponent begins to run with the game with 3s and your team can't match it (which this team doesn't have the shooters to do it), the team shuts down on defense.

Buddy wants to start in this league and dude shoots over 40% from 3 and over 86% from FT. He would be wolves best shooter immediately. Finch can play Beasley and Hield together if they need more firepower. And stop playing McLaughlin, he isn't NBA caliber.

DLo/Hield/ANT/Vanderbilt/KAT
PatBev/Beasley/Bolmaro/Jmac/Reid

I don't think it's shooting. It's a lack of a true point guard/facilitator and the resulting lack of having any offensive rhythm that comes with it. The only thing significantly different between the end of last season and this roster is no Rubio.

Personally, I'd trade for another point guard / facilitator. I'd make Russell the 6th man.

Rubio would be nice. I liked seeing the offense with Bev tonight too, I feel like he knows how to run an offense better than Dlo. Of course dlo and beasley off the bench doesn't seem that ideal either for them to get into a rhythm.

[winforlose]

The answer is a big rebounder with rim protection and preferably with good conditioning to maintain the pace we seek to play with.

During the game they said that shooting across the league is down to levels not seen since 98-99. The new ball is a factor, as is the increase in volume of 3s (every year it seems everyone wants to take more,) but my point is it’s not just us. On Monday in the fourth the Magic hit everything. Tonight it was the same. No amount of defense can stop pure offense. That said, a lot of their open 3s were caused by size mismatches forcing switches. We would be better off in a zone scheme with a rim protector then with raw switching scheme. But we lack the right big to make it work.

[shangrila]

Obviously after 7 games we’ve seen enough. Burn it all down.

Literally. Burn the stadium down and salt the earth.

Nothing is repairable, the defence from the last few games is enough to convince us all that it’s the forever defence (but not the good defence from the start of the season, forget about that. Fool’s gold) and the offence is clearly rotted to the core and incapable of anyone, for example, managing to reach their career averages again. It’s hopeless.

In all seriousness I’m surprised most of you haven’t turned on Ant yet.

Outside of a few role players this is the same team as last year. It's not 7 games.

It’s 7 games after a Finch training camp. It’s 7 games with the new roster. It’s 7 games after all the optimism of the offseason. So yeah, it’s 7 games that have most of you tilted and willing to cut bait with everyone besides Ant (and let’s be honest, he’s a bad week away from getting the same treatment).

Serious question then; do you expect our team to continue shooting well below even last season’s averages?

[Foye]

Blow it up. Trade KAT to the highest bidder. Get rid of everyone else minus Edwards and McDaniels.

There is no winning basketball with this current group.

I have been trying to tell you that for about 2 years now…even before that horrible Russell deal. Literally everything went as predicted since then. The team is the definition of mediocrity.

[Takingbaconback]

Go get Buddy Hield without giving up Beasley. Lottery protected 1st + Layman + Okogie +Prince
The problem is and always has been shooting with this team. They can clearly play defense, but when you see everyone bricking throughout the game it kills the morale and swag. In today's NBA, the biggest energy and momentum injection comes from a barrage of 3s not dunks or a great defensive play. There is no Detroit Pistons pounding their chest shutting you down under 60 points or knocking guys onto the floor. If your opponent begins to run with the game with 3s and your team can't match it (which this team doesn't have the shooters to do it), the team shuts down on defense.

Buddy wants to start in this league and dude shoots over 40% from 3 and over 86% from FT. He would be wolves best shooter immediately. Finch can play Beasley and Hield together if they need more firepower. And stop playing McLaughlin, he isn't NBA caliber.

DLo/Hield/ANT/Vanderbilt/KAT
PatBev/Beasley/Bolmaro/Jmac/Reid

I don't think it's shooting. It's a lack of a true point guard/facilitator and the resulting lack of having any offensive rhythm that comes with it. The only thing significantly different between the end of last season and this roster is no Rubio.

Personally, I'd trade for another point guard / facilitator. I'd make Russell the 6th man.

We've had Rubio before. We've seen what it is with a true PG, the only constant is that team never has players that can flat out shoot except LaVine (what a stud) and not enough shooters in general. But yes this team definitely needs a facilitator, which DLo needs to be and can be. He has all the skills to be one, but has to change his mindset. I don't think there's a good enough PG/facilitator that is available for Minnesota and I think DLO is the best option for the foreseeable future. DLo is only 24 years old so I think there is a lot of room to improve for him.

This is where getting a shooter can help as he will see the benefits of distributing the ball. DLO, ANT, and KAT are very good at drawing in defenders, but don't have that dude to capitalize on their gravity. Looking at the upcoming FA pool, there's no better shooter than Hield other than Beal. He fits the timeline of this Wolves team, he desperately wants to start and I think it makes sense to take a risk on him even though it's not the perfect move on paper. If it works, Hield can absolutely move the needle unlike all these mediocre rebounding big men, and Hield has shown he can shoot every year of his career so there is reliability there. I don't see a move Wolves can make this year or next that can raise the ceiling higher than Hield, so why not use the cap space on him? What do we have to lose, it's got so bad that we got people wanting to trade an absolute stud like KAT already lol

[Domejandro]

Blowing it up is incredibly stupid at this point of the season, wait until the trade-deadline at least.

[Foye]

Blowing it up is incredibly stupid at this point of the season, wait until the trade-deadline at least.

They have waited for two years already...and missed the chance to add further talent to the roster for D'Angelo Russell...

[Domejandro]

Blowing it up is incredibly stupid at this point of the season, wait until the trade-deadline at least.

They have waited for two years already...and missed the chance to add further talent to the roster for D'Angelo Russell...

Ignoring that two years is a completely arbitrary number, you don't blow up a team seven games into a season, even if it is going to be a dumpster fire. Beyond being silly, the trade asset pool is at its worst during this period of the season, it makes zero sense.