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2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation

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Post#701 » by NapoleonII » Thu Nov 4, 2021 11:53 am

AtheJ415 wrote:Also, going to add Mikal will be an all-star. He's taking a similar path to Jimmy Butler and Kawhi (defensive wings who developed offensively). It'll come on fast. I think he's at 18-20 PPG by end of next season. Might not quite get there this year due to shot distribution but it'll happen next year, and he's already a top 3 defensive wing in the league.

We really need to figure out if Cam Payne can start for us after CP3 in a few years or when CP3 inevitably gets injured and if Cam Johnson can start at the 4 alongside Ayton. Our best lineup imo is still Paul, Booker, Mikal, Cam, Ayton. I think Cam is noticeably better than Crowder at this point, and the sooner we make that change the better.


I agree, the potential is there for Bridges. Sky's the limit.

And Crowder does some nice things, but most of it is flashy stuff and not very fundamental or consistent. His season shooting looks decent because he stinks it up more than half the time, then gets hot every 4th or 5th game and shoots like 4/6. CamJo is the future and plays off Ayton really well.
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Post#702 » by Iceman36 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 12:41 pm

I think everyone underestimates Crowders impact. He would be in the S5 at every team in the league. It's the little things he does, which are beyond the real numbers in the boxscore. It has something to do with his aura/charisma (sorry I don't know a better word for it) on the court.

By the way, I hope we can turn things around soon, as this season we clearly underperform until now, but my feelings are not to good at the moment...
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Post#703 » by sunskerr » Thu Nov 4, 2021 1:02 pm

Smith was a bone headed pick. No defending that. He can't crack the rotation over Frank Kaminsky (lol) so we didnt pick up his contract.

Mikal is slightly overrated here too. He's a very good defender but I don't think he's played all NBA defense and it's easy to pick out 5 perimeter defenders who are better than him. I'll wait a few more games to comment on his (apparent) scoring improvement but when I dig further his 2s are assisted 83% and his 3s are assisted 100%, which is up from his career averages. Seems to me it's more just Chris Paul passing (his assists are up). But we'll see. Probably only way to know for sure is if Chris Paul is out for an extended period. I hope for offensive improvement but I wouldn't bet on it.

Cam Johnson...I just dont know what people see in him. A decent role player is his ceiling and I expect nothing else other than good shooting and decent defense. Not a player to withhold from trade discussions.

Devin Booker is just blah right now. He was so good in the finals and he's been our guy for years now so we know he'll bounce back. Need to see improved 3 pt shooting and handles for him to really take the next step. And of course continued defensive improvement because he's still kinda bad there. No reason he shouldn't be averaging 25 ppg on 48-50% with CP3 passing as much as he is right now.

Ayton...you guys already know what I think. Rim runner ceiling on offense because he's not yet shown the ability to anything else. Like that he's taking threes which means he's been working on it. Dunno if it'll be any effective at this stage, but at least there's something there. I want him to be top 10 in defensive RAPTOR in the league of like Gobert/Thybulle/Poeltl, sooner rather than later. I think that's our best chance at staying an elite team along with improvement from Book if CP3 falls off or retires. I think he might just get there this year to be honest.

CP3 has been our best player overall even with his declining defense. He's been spectacular offensively this year seemingly looking to pass quite a bit. Just ride until the wheels fall off I guess.
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Post#704 » by bigfoot » Thu Nov 4, 2021 2:40 pm

sunskerr wrote:Smith was a bone headed pick. No defending that. He can't crack the rotation over Frank Kaminsky (lol) so we didnt pick up his contract.

Mikal is slightly overrated here too. He's a very good defender but I don't think he's played all NBA defense and it's easy to pick out 5 perimeter defenders who are better than him. I'll wait a few more games to comment on his (apparent) scoring improvement but when I dig further his 2s are assisted 83% and his 3s are assisted 100%, which is up from his career averages. Seems to me it's more just Chris Paul passing (his assists are up). But we'll see. Probably only way to know for sure is if Chris Paul is out for an extended period. I hope for offensive improvement but I wouldn't bet on it.

Cam Johnson...I just dont know what people see in him. A decent role player is his ceiling and I expect nothing else other than good shooting and decent defense. Not a player to withhold from trade discussions.

Devin Booker is just blah right now. He was so good in the finals and he's been our guy for years now so we know he'll bounce back. Need to see improved 3 pt shooting and handles for him to really take the next step. And of course continued defensive improvement because he's still kinda bad there. No reason he shouldn't be averaging 25 ppg on 48-50% with CP3 passing as much as he is right now.

Ayton...you guys already know what I think. Rim runner ceiling on offense because he's not yet shown the ability to anything else. Like that he's taking threes which means he's been working on it. Dunno if it'll be any effective at this stage, but at least there's something there. I want him to be top 10 in defensive RAPTOR in the league of like Gobert/Thybulle/Poeltl, sooner rather than later. I think that's our best chance at staying an elite team along with improvement from Book if CP3 falls off or retires. I think he might just get there this year to be honest.

CP3 has been our best player overall even with his declining defense. He's been spectacular offensively this year seemingly looking to pass quite a bit. Just ride until the wheels fall off I guess.


I think almost any pick would have been considered bone-headed because we added CP3 and Crowder to the mix. Those two moves, which happened after the draft, immediately put playing time for any rookie at risk. Haliburton would not have gotten the same minutes and his stats would not have looked nearly as good. At best, he would have been getting 14 minutes a game backing up CP3, Booker, and Payne, and only if Monty considered him better than Galloway, Moore, and Carter.
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Post#705 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:23 pm

I know that we have a big consideration with Ayton already coming in July. And Cam Payne has been very solid ( as a score first guard) for us. Even Payton has been reliable too. But...........
Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) Tweeted:
The Mavericks committed contract malpractice with Jalen Brunson after he was drafted in the 2nd rd.

We will (or should) never see a straight 4 year contract without a team option in year 4 again.

Brunson goes for 31 last night. He’s an unrestricted FA in July. https://t.co/zuDgCn0j8z
Read on Twitter
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With Jalen Brunson becoming an unrestricted free agent in July, IF we have the resources, Should we consider pursuing him hard? Again, key points of interest being:

- His strong friendship and familiarity with Mikal. Our likely 2nd star to Booker once Paul leaves.
- His winning pedigree from Villanova same as Bridges. Also possessing a very high IQ as a floor general.
- His potential as a lead playmaking guard that could be a very good facilitating compliment to either Booker or Payne or Shamets' scoring role at off guard. In this scenario, I'd move Payne to 6th man microwave scoring role. Shamet stays at backup 2 guard, and Brunson is Paul's eventual replacement??
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Post#706 » by Revived » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:34 pm

I’ve always liked Brunson a lot. Wish there was a way to acquire him instead of Shamet.
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Post#707 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:42 pm

Revived wrote:I’ve always liked Brunson a lot. Wish there was a way to acquire him instead of Shamet.


Yeah! He seems very solid and poised for a young guard. And I really love his strong connections to Bridges as well! Since Bridges is elevating his game to the point of becoming our 2nd option to Booker once Paul leaves, it behooves us to consider adding him. *Also I just personally think Paynes' best role would be as a 6th man scoring boost off the bench. :dontknow:
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Post#708 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:46 pm

David Kevin (@theIVpointplay) Tweeted:
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This is the kinda stuff I love seeing.

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Man! Kaminsky has some solid outlier games at times. Imagine if he could find consistency in this though! He'd be a perfect solution to our backup big depth needs once Crowder leaves and Cam takes a starting role. Still needs to work on his strength and vertical burst though for better defensive potential. But his movement and versatility in the post as a scoring option is impressive. Fingers crossed that he can realize his full potential that had him as a lottery pick once. :D
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Post#709 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:57 pm

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Puff wrote:I guess we were afraid Jalen would continue to perform based on his 10 minutes of play and would force us to sit one of Mikal, Book and Cam or the teachers pet Landry Shamet.

The decision on Jalen is just freaking stupid. You guys must be the spin doctors working on Bobby's payroll.


While I hate what happened with Jalen and think he still shows tons of promise (more than I ever saw from Dragan or Chriss), I'm not quite as down on the rest of the team as everyone else. For whatever reason, the bench unit was hitting on all cylinders in preseason, and now that the season's started they can't hit a shot. Obviously there's been an uptick in intensity, but I think it's pretty obvious that we've not been able to get in transition, or stop the other team from getting in transition, and as a result we've been forced into rushing shots: no rhythm at all.

It's also worth noting that we'd have been stoked if Jalen had a game like Kaminsky had the other night. I think we decided that if, after a season under his belt, Jalen can't beat out a minimum contract guy for minutes, it's no worth paying him $5 mil per when every dollar counts twice.

Perhaps hindsight is 20/blah and whatever but I really liked Paul Reed on draft night. Clearly we would have been better served trading down and taking a flyer on a player with a much cheaper contract and adding a future pick in the process. I'm not sweating Halliburton the way a lot of people are around here, though. I don't think he's amazing or anything. If you're going to drafterbate you might as well look back to 2018 and wonder what we were thinking passing on Tyler Herro, who came into the draft with a pedigree eerily similar to Devin Booker's. After a sophomore slump, dude once again looks like a budding superstar. Were he on the roster we'd all be debating whether he or Devin (or, for a minority of us, Ayton) is more likely to be our #1 option down the line.

Yep! :nod:
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Post#710 » by bigfoot » Thu Nov 4, 2021 4:13 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:I know that we have a big consideration with Ayton already coming in July. And Cam Payne has been very solid ( as a score first guard) for us. Even Payton has been reliable too. But...........
Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) Tweeted:
The Mavericks committed contract malpractice with Jalen Brunson after he was drafted in the 2nd rd.

We will (or should) never see a straight 4 year contract without a team option in year 4 again.

Brunson goes for 31 last night. He’s an unrestricted FA in July. https://t.co/zuDgCn0j8z
Read on Twitter
?s=20

With Jalen Brunson becoming an unrestricted free agent in July, IF we have the resources, Should we consider pursuing him hard? Again, key points of interest being:

- His strong friendship and familiarity with Mikal. Our likely 2nd star to Booker once Paul leaves.
- His winning pedigree from Villanova same as Bridges. Also possessing a very high IQ as a floor general.
- His potential as a lead playmaking guard that could be a very good facilitating compliment to either Booker or Payne or Shamets' scoring role at off guard. In this scenario, I'd move Payne to 6th man microwave scoring role. Shamet stays at backup 2 guard, and Brunson is Paul's eventual replacement??


Sounds like the Mavs can only offer him $14M max. I don't see the Suns coming up with that cap space. Some other team might offer him a big contract.
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Post#711 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 4:30 pm

AtheJ415 wrote:Also, going to add Mikal will be an all-star. He's taking a similar path to Jimmy Butler and Kawhi (defensive wings who developed offensively). It'll come on fast. I think he's at 18-20 PPG by end of next season. Might not quite get there this year due to shot distribution but it'll happen next year, and he's already a top 3 defensive wing in the league.

We really need to figure out if Cam Payne can start for us after CP3 in a few years or when CP3 inevitably gets injured and if Cam Johnson can start at the 4 alongside Ayton. Our best lineup imo is still Paul, Booker, Mikal, Cam, Ayton. I think Cam is noticeably better than Crowder at this point, and the sooner we make that change the better.


Totally agree as I mention this. To me he is better than someone like Dan Majerle was. More versatile.

I think he would fit well on an olympic team as well.

Most have not agreed that he can develop like a poor man's Kawhi or Paul George but I see it. Jimmy Butler a little different. Bridges is better offensively at some things and Butler more of a mid range guy and just an intense guy who imposes his will.

I do think Cam is a bit overrated though among Suns fans. Although he has at times had great 3 pt runs, he's really been on and off. He has developed his offensive game in other ways, had some nice dunks and cuts like Mikal, and been better defensively. Ultimately I think he could work better than Jae in the offense at times, but Jae brings that toughness and veteran leadership into the starting unit..like a better PJ Tucker..better shooter, a little worse defender (though I know you hated him too and wanted TJ to start, which I wouldn't have argued with as I was a bit TJ Warren fan but he was a lot better offensively than Cam and we desperately needed offense at the time).
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Post#712 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 4:45 pm

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
Puff wrote:I guess we were afraid Jalen would continue to perform based on his 10 minutes of play and would force us to sit one of Mikal, Book and Cam or the teachers pet Landry Shamet.

The decision on Jalen is just freaking stupid. You guys must be the spin doctors working on Bobby's payroll.


While I hate what happened with Jalen and think he still shows tons of promise (more than I ever saw from Dragan or Chriss), I'm not quite as down on the rest of the team as everyone else. For whatever reason, the bench unit was hitting on all cylinders in preseason, and now that the season's started they can't hit a shot. Obviously there's been an uptick in intensity, but I think it's pretty obvious that we've not been able to get in transition, or stop the other team from getting in transition, and as a result we've been forced into rushing shots: no rhythm at all.

It's also worth noting that we'd have been stoked if Jalen had a game like Kaminsky had the other night. I think we decided that if, after a season under his belt, Jalen can't beat out a minimum contract guy for minutes, it's no worth paying him $5 mil per when every dollar counts twice.

Perhaps hindsight is 20/blah and whatever but I really liked Paul Reed on draft night. Clearly we would have been better served trading down and taking a flyer on a player with a much cheaper contract and adding a future pick in the process. I'm not sweating Halliburton the way a lot of people are around here, though. I don't think he's amazing or anything. If you're going to drafterbate you might as well look back to 2018 and wonder what we were thinking passing on Tyler Herro, who came into the draft with a pedigree eerily similar to Devin Booker's. After a sophomore slump, dude once again looks like a budding superstar. Were he on the roster we'd all be debating whether he or Devin (or, for a minority of us, Ayton) is more likely to be our #1 option down the line.


Trading down Bane should have been the choice (of keeping the pick Memphis took him with) but we knew we liked him.

Not sure how you can think Haliburton wasn't good. I don't know how many rookies come in, not playing pg, but next to one, and score 13ppg on 41% from 3, 53% from 2 with 5.3 apg and 1.3 spg. That's nuts. As much as I liked him, I still didn't expect that.

As for Kaminsky, I've always liked him, except for when he was dominating AZ in elite eight games. But he is nice offensively. I think he shot better than Book from 3 last year, can initiate, score inside (though on occasion he misses easy layups though so does everyone)..and is solid offensively. Defensively he sucks, but he is a decent rebounder and a smart player...you don't need great D in your 2nd unit typically anyway.

People talk about him as the worst player in the NBA and there are FAR FAR worse players on teams.

Cam and Shamet have started slowly but they are shooters and they are going to have some bad nights and great nights. They will click..they have been without Payne, teams can sag off Payton to double and they don't have Saric who was there when they were REALLY good...so without him and Payne it comes down to Payton and McGee, neither which need defensive focus...and some Nader as well sometimes. That's a much worse unit offensively than Payne, Shamet, Cam and Saric would be.
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Post#713 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Nov 4, 2021 4:53 pm

bigfoot wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:I know that we have a big consideration with Ayton already coming in July. And Cam Payne has been very solid ( as a score first guard) for us. Even Payton has been reliable too. But...........
Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) Tweeted:
The Mavericks committed contract malpractice with Jalen Brunson after he was drafted in the 2nd rd.

We will (or should) never see a straight 4 year contract without a team option in year 4 again.

Brunson goes for 31 last night. He’s an unrestricted FA in July. https://t.co/zuDgCn0j8z
Read on Twitter
?s=20

With Jalen Brunson becoming an unrestricted free agent in July, IF we have the resources, Should we consider pursuing him hard? Again, key points of interest being:

- His strong friendship and familiarity with Mikal. Our likely 2nd star to Booker once Paul leaves.
- His winning pedigree from Villanova same as Bridges. Also possessing a very high IQ as a floor general.
- His potential as a lead playmaking guard that could be a very good facilitating compliment to either Booker or Payne or Shamets' scoring role at off guard. In this scenario, I'd move Payne to 6th man microwave scoring role. Shamet stays at backup 2 guard, and Brunson is Paul's eventual replacement??


Sounds like the Mavs can only offer him $14M max. I don't see the Suns coming up with that cap space. Some other team might offer him a big contract.

You're probably right man! Shame though, He's very good. Solid all around floor general. I wonder what the details are of the Young deal of Saric/ Smith and a first were really that caused the d the deal to not happen? Because that 14 million expiring in that context would be perfect for our coming free agency considerations?? Could it be that Montyband the Suns didn't want to part with Saric? :dontknow:
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Post#714 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 5:11 pm

sunskerr wrote:Smith was a bone headed pick. No defending that. He can't crack the rotation over Frank Kaminsky (lol) so we didnt pick up his contract.

Mikal is slightly overrated here too. He's a very good defender but I don't think he's played all NBA defense and it's easy to pick out 5 perimeter defenders who are better than him. I'll wait a few more games to comment on his (apparent) scoring improvement but when I dig further his 2s are assisted 83% and his 3s are assisted 100%, which is up from his career averages. Seems to me it's more just Chris Paul passing (his assists are up). But we'll see. Probably only way to know for sure is if Chris Paul is out for an extended period. I hope for offensive improvement but I wouldn't bet on it.

Cam Johnson...I just dont know what people see in him. A decent role player is his ceiling and I expect nothing else other than good shooting and decent defense. Not a player to withhold from trade discussions.

Devin Booker is just blah right now. He was so good in the finals and he's been our guy for years now so we know he'll bounce back. Need to see improved 3 pt shooting and handles for him to really take the next step. And of course continued defensive improvement because he's still kinda bad there. No reason he shouldn't be averaging 25 ppg on 48-50% with CP3 passing as much as he is right now.

Ayton...you guys already know what I think. Rim runner ceiling on offense because he's not yet shown the ability to anything else. Like that he's taking threes which means he's been working on it. Dunno if it'll be any effective at this stage, but at least there's something there. I want him to be top 10 in defensive RAPTOR in the league of like Gobert/Thybulle/Poeltl, sooner rather than later. I think that's our best chance at staying an elite team along with improvement from Book if CP3 falls off or retires. I think he might just get there this year to be honest.

CP3 has been our best player overall even with his declining defense. He's been spectacular offensively this year seemingly looking to pass quite a bit. Just ride until the wheels fall off I guess.


CP3 is obviously still our best player, but you are WAY too low on Bridges, and probably even Ayton. I really don't get it other than I know you like low % create your own shots over highly efficient assisted ones and focusing on 3s and rim over midrange...shots where you gain ground against smart 3pt shooting and rim finishing teams...where they pull away while you are iso'ing from mid range.

It's something Mikal has added and will continue, but definitely shouldn't be a major part of game as he is taking the smart high IQ looks which everyone should take as many as possible.

Just like Ayton cut out his shot creating mid range shots last year to increase his efficiency..as probably directed by the team. Finish at the rim or take his self creation usually money short range 1 on 1 fadeways, spins or hooks along with occasional drives now.

Booker has been worse than any of those guys, as evidenced by that NBA math stuff. You rely all on iso's, that's going to happen. You need those finishes at the rim and catch and shoot, screening 3s...and in general, become a better 3 pt shooter. I feel he must continue to work on his 1 on 1 2 point shots more than his 3s.
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sunskerr wrote:Smith was a bone headed pick. No defending that. He can't crack the rotation over Frank Kaminsky (lol) so we didnt pick up his contract.

Mikal is slightly overrated here too. He's a very good defender but I don't think he's played all NBA defense and it's easy to pick out 5 perimeter defenders who are better than him. I'll wait a few more games to comment on his (apparent) scoring improvement but when I dig further his 2s are assisted 83% and his 3s are assisted 100%, which is up from his career averages. Seems to me it's more just Chris Paul passing (his assists are up). But we'll see. Probably only way to know for sure is if Chris Paul is out for an extended period. I hope for offensive improvement but I wouldn't bet on it.

Cam Johnson...I just dont know what people see in him. A decent role player is his ceiling and I expect nothing else other than good shooting and decent defense. Not a player to withhold from trade discussions.

Devin Booker is just blah right now. He was so good in the finals and he's been our guy for years now so we know he'll bounce back. Need to see improved 3 pt shooting and handles for him to really take the next step. And of course continued defensive improvement because he's still kinda bad there. No reason he shouldn't be averaging 25 ppg on 48-50% with CP3 passing as much as he is right now.

Ayton...you guys already know what I think. Rim runner ceiling on offense because he's not yet shown the ability to anything else. Like that he's taking threes which means he's been working on it. Dunno if it'll be any effective at this stage, but at least there's something there. I want him to be top 10 in defensive RAPTOR in the league of like Gobert/Thybulle/Poeltl, sooner rather than later. I think that's our best chance at staying an elite team along with improvement from Book if CP3 falls off or retires. I think he might just get there this year to be honest.

CP3 has been our best player overall even with his declining defense. He's been spectacular offensively this year seemingly looking to pass quite a bit. Just ride until the wheels fall off I guess.


I think almost any pick would have been considered bone-headed because we added CP3 and Crowder to the mix. Those two moves, which happened after the draft, immediately put playing time for any rookie at risk. Haliburton would not have gotten the same minutes and his stats would not have looked nearly as good. At best, he would have been getting 14 minutes a game backing up CP3, Booker, and Payne, and only if Monty considered him better than Galloway, Moore, and Carter.


I love Payne but he was also better. But of course he would have outplayed those other 3 who we could have never decided on. He was no question better. He would have been Booker's backup which would have helped tremendously. It could have helped us avoid signing Shamet to that ridiculous deal.

Ultimately I wouldn't be surprised if they already had their eyes on Shamet which influenced their pick. Just bad scouting as usual with Ty Jerome and I guess Smith. Cam is an ok pick where they got him though.
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Post#716 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 5:16 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:I know that we have a big consideration with Ayton already coming in July. And Cam Payne has been very solid ( as a score first guard) for us. Even Payton has been reliable too. But...........
Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) Tweeted:
The Mavericks committed contract malpractice with Jalen Brunson after he was drafted in the 2nd rd.

We will (or should) never see a straight 4 year contract without a team option in year 4 again.

Brunson goes for 31 last night. He’s an unrestricted FA in July. https://t.co/zuDgCn0j8z
Read on Twitter
?s=20

With Jalen Brunson becoming an unrestricted free agent in July, IF we have the resources, Should we consider pursuing him hard? Again, key points of interest being:

- His strong friendship and familiarity with Mikal. Our likely 2nd star to Booker once Paul leaves.
- His winning pedigree from Villanova same as Bridges. Also possessing a very high IQ as a floor general.
- His potential as a lead playmaking guard that could be a very good facilitating compliment to either Booker or Payne or Shamets' scoring role at off guard. In this scenario, I'd move Payne to 6th man microwave scoring role. Shamet stays at backup 2 guard, and Brunson is Paul's eventual replacement??


We won't have money for Brunson unless he makes less than the tax MLE.

Props on the short post, or at least shorter than most.

I bet more than 2-3 people actually read this one, so good job.
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Post#717 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 5:16 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:David Kevin (@theIVpointplay) Tweeted:
Here's the video.

This is the kinda stuff I love seeing.

https://t.co/qyBIb2MJvo
Read on Twitter
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Man! Kaminsky has some solid outlier games at times. Imagine if he could find consistency in this though! He'd be a perfect solution to our backup big depth needs once Crowder leaves and Cam takes a starting role. Still needs to work on his strength and vertical burst though for better defensive potential. But his movement and versatility in the post as a scoring option is impressive. Fingers crossed that he can realize his full potential that had him as a lottery pick once. :D


Lets all face it. Kaminsky at the minimum is a STEAL.
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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#718 » by bigfoot » Thu Nov 4, 2021 5:27 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:David Kevin (@theIVpointplay) Tweeted:
Here's the video.

This is the kinda stuff I love seeing.

https://t.co/qyBIb2MJvo
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Man! Kaminsky has some solid outlier games at times. Imagine if he could find consistency in this though! He'd be a perfect solution to our backup big depth needs once Crowder leaves and Cam takes a starting role. Still needs to work on his strength and vertical burst though for better defensive potential. But his movement and versatility in the post as a scoring option is impressive. Fingers crossed that he can realize his full potential that had him as a lottery pick once. :D


Lets all face it. Kaminsky at the minimum is a STEAL.


I would like to see him get more time
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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#719 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Nov 4, 2021 6:24 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:David Kevin (@theIVpointplay) Tweeted:
Here's the video.

This is the kinda stuff I love seeing.

https://t.co/qyBIb2MJvo
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Man! Kaminsky has some solid outlier games at times. Imagine if he could find consistency in this though! He'd be a perfect solution to our backup big depth needs once Crowder leaves and Cam takes a starting role. Still needs to work on his strength and vertical burst though for better defensive potential. But his movement and versatility in the post as a scoring option is impressive. Fingers crossed that he can realize his full potential that had him as a lottery pick once. :D


Lets all face it. Kaminsky at the minimum is a STEAL.

Ayton might have competition for the max soon! :lol:
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Re: 2021-22 Season Discussion and Speculation 

Post#720 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Nov 4, 2021 6:27 pm

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Ghost of Kleine wrote:I know that we have a big consideration with Ayton already coming in July. And Cam Payne has been very solid ( as a score first guard) for us. Even Payton has been reliable too. But...........
Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) Tweeted:
The Mavericks committed contract malpractice with Jalen Brunson after he was drafted in the 2nd rd.

We will (or should) never see a straight 4 year contract without a team option in year 4 again.

Brunson goes for 31 last night. He’s an unrestricted FA in July. https://t.co/zuDgCn0j8z
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With Jalen Brunson becoming an unrestricted free agent in July, IF we have the resources, Should we consider pursuing him hard? Again, key points of interest being:

- His strong friendship and familiarity with Mikal. Our likely 2nd star to Booker once Paul leaves.
- His winning pedigree from Villanova same as Bridges. Also possessing a very high IQ as a floor general.
- His potential as a lead playmaking guard that could be a very good facilitating compliment to either Booker or Payne or Shamets' scoring role at off guard. In this scenario, I'd move Payne to 6th man microwave scoring role. Shamet stays at backup 2 guard, and Brunson is Paul's eventual replacement??


We won't have money for Brunson unless he makes less than the tax MLE.

Props on the short post, or at least shorter than most.

I bet more than 2-3 people actually read this one, so good job.

Thanks! Working more on making concise posts be a point of emphasis. :D
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