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2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#181 » by WaltFrazier » Thu Nov 4, 2021 6:09 am

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Pretty much what I'm saying. I actually like the idea of Precious off the beach for exactly what he provides, rebounding/scoring. I just think the Raptors would benefit hugely from a weak-side shot blocker. Someone like Myles Turner would be great, but not sure I want Turner specifically.


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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#182 » by God Squad » Thu Nov 4, 2021 6:10 am

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Pretty much what I'm saying. I actually like the idea of Precious off the beach for exactly what he provides, rebounding/scoring. I just think the Raptors would benefit hugely from a weak-side shot blocker. Someone like Myles Turner would be great, but not sure I want Turner specifically.


Because he came from Miami?

I don't even know what your asking or talking about. What does Miami have to do with anything?
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Post#183 » by Madhouse » Thu Nov 4, 2021 6:41 am

God Squad wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
God Squad wrote:


Pretty much what I'm saying. I actually like the idea of Precious off the beach for exactly what he provides, rebounding/scoring. I just think the Raptors would benefit hugely from a weak-side shot blocker. Someone like Myles Turner would be great, but not sure I want Turner specifically.


Because he came from Miami?

I don't even know what your asking or talking about. What does Miami have to do with anything?


It's a joke. A pretty mediocre one to be fair.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#184 » by flaco » Thu Nov 4, 2021 9:53 am

Celtics fan here. Wondering whether the emergence of Scottie Barnes makes Siakam somehow expendable. If so, what would you guys ask for Siakam in a trade with the Celtics? Everybody would be on the table but Tatum and Brown.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#185 » by Raps in 4 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 10:41 am

flaco wrote:Celtics fan here. Wondering whether the emergence of Scottie Barnes makes Siakam somehow expendable. If so, what would you guys ask for Siakam in a trade with the Celtics? Everybody would be on the table but Tatum and Brown.


It would have to be a swap for Tatum or Brown. Nothing else on your roster is enticing from a rebuilding or competing now standpoint.
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Post#186 » by Gold Dragon » Thu Nov 4, 2021 12:57 pm

Just a note that Sam Dekker's contract will be guaranteed if he stays on the the roster after Saturday. So a bit of a decision considering waiving him brings us under the tax. Same thing for Bonga but I think he is further up the depth chart. But there is a decent chance one of them is waived.
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Post#187 » by Rapsfan07 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 2:53 pm

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flaco wrote:Celtics fan here. Wondering whether the emergence of Scottie Barnes makes Siakam somehow expendable. If so, what would you guys ask for Siakam in a trade with the Celtics? Everybody would be on the table but Tatum and Brown.


It would have to be a swap for Tatum or Brown. Nothing else on your roster is enticing from a rebuilding or competing now standpoint.


Yeah, really can't see the point to a deal for Toronto if Tatum or Brown isn't coming back.
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Post#188 » by Spida888 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:11 pm

Gold Dragon wrote:Just a note that Sam Dekker's contract will be guaranteed if he stays on the the roster after Saturday. So a bit of a decision considering waiving him brings us under the tax. Same thing for Bonga but I think he is further up the depth chart. But there is a decent chance one of them is waived.


Yeah will be watching that. Expecting at least 1 of them to be waived. Not surprised if both of them are waived for more trade flexibility down the road.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#189 » by ruckus » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:19 pm

With the noose tightening around New Orleans in regards to Zion, how likely do you think they panic and try and move Ingram for help?
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#190 » by WaltFrazier » Thu Nov 4, 2021 4:35 pm

Madhouse wrote:
God Squad wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
Because he came from Miami?

I don't even know what your asking or talking about. What does Miami have to do with anything?


It's a joke. A pretty mediocre one to be fair.


Yes it was lame, corny. Just kidding because he wrote off the beach when he meant bench.

Actually I do like the idea of Precious coming off the bench. He might have more success against opponents' backup C, and be part of an energetic bench mob.
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Post#191 » by wegotthabeet » Thu Nov 4, 2021 5:38 pm

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Lateral Quicks wrote:I expect Ibaka to be traded this year. There's no point in the LAC keeping him - that team without a healthy Kawhi isn't going anywhere this year.

Masai didn't want him to leave. If the team continues to exceed expectations, I wonder if there is a deal to be had to bring him back into the fold. Probably not, given all the bad blood with the LAC. But who knows, maybe he's bought out and we can pick him up. A Birch/Ibaka C rotation would be dynamite.


When Barnes, Siakam and Yuta are back, I would trade Boucher for an injured Ibaka. :D

They would save $2.7 million, so that would be like saving over $6 million including luxury taxes.

Maybe Boucher and David Johnson?


Dragic and Boucher for Bledsoe, Ibaka and then an asset like Keon Johnson or 2 2nd rounders is kind of interesting. We get under the tax, can cut Bledsoe for only 4M next year or keep him as a contract to move. Ibaka might be ready for the playoffs if we make it, whereas the Clippers need a PG and big now.

Not sure they'd give up Keon because they must have loved him to move up from 25 to 21 at the expense of a Detroit 2024 second, but a couple 2nds I could see them doing to save the season without giving up a first, which I imagine would be their red line for a short term fix.


Interesting idea. I wouldn't take Bledsoe back though.

I would consider moving Boucher & Flynn for Ibaka instead. Even then I'm not sure I would do it, but it's intriguing. I would still hold out to see if Dragic, Boucher & Flynn could get a better return.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#192 » by Morris_Shatford » Thu Nov 4, 2021 7:38 pm

flaco wrote:Celtics fan here. Wondering whether the emergence of Scottie Barnes makes Siakam somehow expendable. If so, what would you guys ask for Siakam in a trade with the Celtics? Everybody would be on the table but Tatum and Brown.


I think the first step is trying to determine if Siakam and Barnes can play together and what the rotation is going to look like when Siakam is back before Masai would consider dealing him.

If Masai did opt to trade Siakam the challenge with the Celts roster outside of Brown and Tatum is that I would imagine the goal of trading Siakam would be to get younger and slide a few more guys into that sub 25 year old window that GTJ, OG, Barnes, Banton, Flynn, and Precious fit into and there aren't a ton of options on the Celts that would work with that approach.

I also think we would need to be on a clear rebuilding path to trade Siakam within the division.
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Post#193 » by Madhouse » Thu Nov 4, 2021 8:03 pm

flaco wrote:Celtics fan here. Wondering whether the emergence of Scottie Barnes makes Siakam somehow expendable. If so, what would you guys ask for Siakam in a trade with the Celtics? Everybody would be on the table but Tatum and Brown.


The problem is that the Raptors if they trade Siakam would be looking at a young star not picks and prospects. There is legit zero chance any deal is happening without Brown or Tatum.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#194 » by Ell Curry » Thu Nov 4, 2021 10:12 pm

Madhouse wrote:
flaco wrote:Celtics fan here. Wondering whether the emergence of Scottie Barnes makes Siakam somehow expendable. If so, what would you guys ask for Siakam in a trade with the Celtics? Everybody would be on the table but Tatum and Brown.


The problem is that the Raptors if they trade Siakam would be looking at a young star not picks and prospects. There is legit zero chance any deal is happening without Brown or Tatum.


I could see us considering something based around Robert Williams, a first rounder and Nesmith. Williams is a great fit at center for us, though his injury record is terrifying. Maybe Smart goes to a 3rd team and we get something, since the Celtics need more money out.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#195 » by Indeed » Thu Nov 4, 2021 10:14 pm

Madhouse wrote:
God Squad wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
Because he came from Miami?

I don't even know what your asking or talking about. What does Miami have to do with anything?


It's a joke. A pretty mediocre one to be fair.


Using the wrong word in beach (Miami) instead of bench.
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Post#196 » by Indeed » Thu Nov 4, 2021 10:17 pm

Ell Curry wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
flaco wrote:Celtics fan here. Wondering whether the emergence of Scottie Barnes makes Siakam somehow expendable. If so, what would you guys ask for Siakam in a trade with the Celtics? Everybody would be on the table but Tatum and Brown.


The problem is that the Raptors if they trade Siakam would be looking at a young star not picks and prospects. There is legit zero chance any deal is happening without Brown or Tatum.


I could see us considering something based around Robert Williams, a first rounder and Nesmith. Williams is a great fit at center for us, though his injury record is terrifying. Maybe Smart goes to a 3rd team and we get something, since the Celtics need more money out.


I wonder if Cleveland would consider Siakam for Mobley, maybe we can add a pick or another young player.
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Post#197 » by Bruin » Thu Nov 4, 2021 10:50 pm

Indeed wrote:
Ell Curry wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
The problem is that the Raptors if they trade Siakam would be looking at a young star not picks and prospects. There is legit zero chance any deal is happening without Brown or Tatum.


I could see us considering something based around Robert Williams, a first rounder and Nesmith. Williams is a great fit at center for us, though his injury record is terrifying. Maybe Smart goes to a 3rd team and we get something, since the Celtics need more money out.


I wonder if Cleveland would consider Siakam for Mobley, maybe we can add a pick or another young player.

Pretty sure Cleveland sees Mobley as untouchable. Much like we see Scottie as untouchable right now

The only guy that could potentially be attainable from Cleveland is Allen but with how he’s been playing, idk if even that’s possible

If we’re targeting a legit Center, Turner is probably the most realistic in terms of being a difference maker, fitting with our timeline and structure, and if the Pacers continue to suck they’ll probably be willing to move him
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#198 » by Ell Curry » Fri Nov 5, 2021 2:08 am

Indeed wrote:
Ell Curry wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
The problem is that the Raptors if they trade Siakam would be looking at a young star not picks and prospects. There is legit zero chance any deal is happening without Brown or Tatum.


I could see us considering something based around Robert Williams, a first rounder and Nesmith. Williams is a great fit at center for us, though his injury record is terrifying. Maybe Smart goes to a 3rd team and we get something, since the Celtics need more money out.


I wonder if Cleveland would consider Siakam for Mobley, maybe we can add a pick or another young player.


I can't imagine they would. Something based around Siakam for Jarrett Allen, I could see.
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Post#199 » by Ell Curry » Fri Nov 5, 2021 2:14 am

PrinceAli wrote:
Indeed wrote:
Ell Curry wrote:
I could see us considering something based around Robert Williams, a first rounder and Nesmith. Williams is a great fit at center for us, though his injury record is terrifying. Maybe Smart goes to a 3rd team and we get something, since the Celtics need more money out.


I wonder if Cleveland would consider Siakam for Mobley, maybe we can add a pick or another young player.

Pretty sure Cleveland sees Mobley as untouchable. Much like we see Scottie as untouchable right now

The only guy that could potentially be attainable from Cleveland is Allen but with how he’s been playing, idk if even that’s possible

If we’re targeting a legit Center, Turner is probably the most realistic in terms of being a difference maker, fitting with our timeline and structure, and if the Pacers continue to suck they’ll probably be willing to move him


Yeah, Turner only has this year and next year's left, so his price should really be going down, and we do have a same contract in Dragic and also Boucher or Achiuwa as tradeables we would need less with Turner around, so maybe this is possible.
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Post#200 » by 10giz » Fri Nov 5, 2021 11:24 am

Ell Curry wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
Indeed wrote:
I wonder if Cleveland would consider Siakam for Mobley, maybe we can add a pick or another young player.

Pretty sure Cleveland sees Mobley as untouchable. Much like we see Scottie as untouchable right now

The only guy that could potentially be attainable from Cleveland is Allen but with how he’s been playing, idk if even that’s possible

If we’re targeting a legit Center, Turner is probably the most realistic in terms of being a difference maker, fitting with our timeline and structure, and if the Pacers continue to suck they’ll probably be willing to move him


Yeah, Turner only has this year and next year's left, so his price should really be going down, and we do have a same contract in Dragic and also Boucher or Achiuwa as tradeables we would need less with Turner around, so maybe this is possible.


Khem Birch literally put up better numbers starting for us last year than Turner did.

WE DON'T NEED SHOT BLOCKING CENTERS.

WE ARE LAST IN THE LEAGUE IN BLOCKS.

YET, WE ALLOW THE 2ND LEAST POINTS IN THE PAINT.

WE ALSO ALLOW THE 2ND FEWEST FGA AT THE RIM.

WE DO NOT NEED A CENTER. WE'RE ALREADY AN ELITE DEFENSIVE TEAM EVEN INSIDE.

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