76ers back to fining Ben Simmons

[Sixerscan]

The 76ers are in **** if Embiid goes down, not sure what they are waiting for, trade Simmons for some assets and try to compete or risk Embiid getting injured and suck again for the next 5 years.

You can say that for any franchise who’s top 5-10 overall nba player goes down.

Embiid is always going to be a injury risk.

But assets being thrown around mean nothing to what sixers are trying to accomplish. Trading for cj, Minnesota junk, Indiana injured players. Sacramento dumps. Doesn’t get sixers far.

While true, Embiid is injury prone and you only have him while other teams have 2 or more very good players.

I'm sure if they could trade him for someone that could replace Embiid's value when he goes down, or even Simmons', they probably would. The issue is like Malik Beasley and Jaden McDaniels isn't doing that... see all the games the TWolves lose.

[SlovenianDragon]

no team wants ben... Idk why people are saying to just trade him... There is no market out there.

Hypothetically tho if he did get traded it would be funny to see that fan base turn on him and boo him too...im a sick person.

[JonFromVA]

I'm surprised Philly waited this long, but I suppose they needed to let the wheels turn.

[gp2015]

Why give him away for free? Bring him back, make him play, trade him for fair value. The crappy deals will always be there, they aren't going anywhere. You keep holding out if you are Philly, it's also setting a precedent. Look at Houstons return on Harden. Are they better off, at all?

You realize that he's played his last game as a Sixer right? He's just going to say that he's not 'mentally ready' to play until he gets traded.

Even if he does play, that would be a complete disaster. Did you you watch his practice? He's completely uninterested and I can only imagine what a s*** show it would be if he steps on the court with the same attitude.

ownership doesnt want to cut him cheques, they will just keep fining him. This is a group that was cool with the process for like 4 years. They dont care. They had ben sit out a whole season when he could have played. They had joel sit out 2 of them. His only way out is to play well. He has till february. They know they arent winning in the next 3 years regardless of if they keep him or trade him for nothing.

Why again are they not winning in the next 3 years? Anything can happen in 3 years. They're one of the top teams right now without Simmons and if you can trade him for something useful, they'll be even better.

[PD28]

Love that Philly has been so successful without him. The team is putting less.pressure on the front office by racking up the wins. Just hold out till the deadline and whatever you can get back will be a boost come playoff time.

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[bbalnation]

Both happened on Oct 25. Ben "played the mental health card" before that and nothing happened. It wasn't until the announcer said what he said that the fines stopped.

My guy, this isn't some conspiracy or bogus story. This is the game of public relations, and its pretty intro level.

What did the announcer say? Still confused wtf you're talking about lol

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I think he's talking about Alaa saying that weird thing about Giddey lol

Oh, my bad. Yes, I was talking about this ahah. The backlash that the sixers received as an organization was wild. People were beginning to side with Ben. So... the fines stopped.

The mental health stuff was around for a few days before. Please use facts esp if ur gonna be saying things like "mental health card", even if its a really emotional time for you, having a player you resent (??) receiving fines for not playing.

[Duke4life831]

And those teams can enjoy heading to MSG in May for their annual trip to the lottery.

Simmons can change a team's season. Some crappy offer isn't going to change the Sixers' season.

And Philly can waste a 35 million of their cap while they're trying to compete for a championship. Seems like a much bigger waste for Philly in this scenario.

I'm sure you realize that NBA has a soft cap and the Sixers wouldn't have 35 million in cap space just by getting rid of him.

Yes I do understand that. But maybe instead of asking for ridiculous returns for Simmons all summer long, he could've gotten good players that weren't superstars that took up 35 million in cap space in return for a trade.

Hell Im sure right now I bet he could get a good player that could help this 6ers team right now in return for Simmons. But no wasting that cap space is much much smarter to do when you have a team trying to win a championship this year...

[Sixerscan]

What did the announcer say? Still confused wtf you're talking about lol

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I think he's talking about Alaa saying that weird thing about Giddey lol

Oh, my bad. Yes, I was talking about this ahah. The backlash that the sixers received as an organization was wild. People were beginning to side with Ben. So... the fines stopped.

The mental health stuff was around for a few days before. Please use facts esp if ur gonna be saying things like "mental health card", even if its a really emotional time for you, having a player you resent (??) receiving fines for not playing.

Like Xtreme said, Alaa isn't even employed by the team so I doubt that had anything to do with that. I think they actually stopped fining him when they had the meeting before the Nets game a few days prior, fwiw.

[JonFromVA]

no team wants ben... Idk why people are saying to just trade him... There is no market out there.

Hypothetically tho if he did get traded it would be funny to see that fan base turn on him and boo him too...im a sick person.

There are teams and fan bases that want him if they don't have to mortgage their future for him. In theory Ben can still help a team win more regular season games, possibly make the playoffs, sell some tickets, etc.

[XtremeDunkz]

What did the announcer say? Still confused wtf you're talking about lol

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I think he's talking about Alaa saying that weird thing about Giddey lol

Oh, my bad. Yes, I was talking about this ahah. The backlash that the sixers received as an organization was wild. People were beginning to side with Ben. So... the fines stopped.

The mental health stuff was around for a few days before. Please use facts esp if ur gonna be saying things like "mental health card", even if its a really emotional time for you, having a player you resent (??) receiving fines for not playing.

Where exactly was the backlash? I live in the Philly market and didn't hear a word about it.

Only thing I saw was the weird thread here with people getting worked up.

I don't think anyone that matters actually cared. Ala certainly didn't get disciplined for it lol.

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[Eyeamok]

What did the announcer say? Still confused wtf you're talking about lol

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I think he's talking about Alaa saying that weird thing about Giddey lol

Oh, my bad. Yes, I was talking about this ahah. The backlash that the sixers received as an organization was wild. People were beginning to side with Ben. So... the fines stopped.

The mental health stuff was around for a few days before. Please use facts esp if ur gonna be saying things like "mental health card", even if its a really emotional time for you, having a player you resent (??) receiving fines for not playing.

You know Bbalnation you could be on to something. Lebron is out for a week. He must have known that philly was about to start fining Ben again and decided Rich Paul need some full time help in getting this situation resolved. So he took some time off from the Lakers. Now he can focus his energies on the Ben Simmons situation and the toxic environment he finds himself in. And save Klutch from making another blunder all in a week.

[bbalnation]

I think he's talking about Alaa saying that weird thing about Giddey lol

Oh, my bad. Yes, I was talking about this ahah. The backlash that the sixers received as an organization was wild. People were beginning to side with Ben. So... the fines stopped.

The mental health stuff was around for a few days before. Please use facts esp if ur gonna be saying things like "mental health card", even if its a really emotional time for you, having a player you resent (??) receiving fines for not playing.

Like Xtreme said, Alaa isn't even employed by the team so I doubt that had anything to do with that. I think they actually stopped fining him when they had the meeting before the Nets game a few days prior, fwiw.

I did a quick Google search before posting and it was the same date (oct 25), so my memory and the Google News 2 min search seem to disagree with you but thank you for the fwiw lol. You're correcting me without doing the research yourself which is so weird.

As far as Alaa, the culture of your organization seeps everywhere. It's why everyone jumped at the Sixers throats. And its why it looks like the fines had to be paused.

[FrodoFraggins]

If the NBAPA offers their own head doctors, I have a feeling Philly isn't going to win this. But I don't blame them for trying.

[XtremeDunkz]

Oh, my bad. Yes, I was talking about this ahah. The backlash that the sixers received as an organization was wild. People were beginning to side with Ben. So... the fines stopped.

The mental health stuff was around for a few days before. Please use facts esp if ur gonna be saying things like "mental health card", even if its a really emotional time for you, having a player you resent (??) receiving fines for not playing.

Like Xtreme said, Alaa isn't even employed by the team so I doubt that had anything to do with that. I think they actually stopped fining him when they had the meeting before the Nets game a few days prior, fwiw.

I did a quick Google search before posting and it was the same date (oct 25), so my memory and the Google News 2 min search seem to disagree with you but thank you for the fwiw lol. You're correcting me without doing the research yourself which is so weird.

As far as Alaa, the culture of your organization seeps everywhere. It's why everyone jumped at the Sixers throats. And its why it looks like the fines had to be paused.

Your trolling is really bad.

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[User_denied]

I just don't get what the sixers are doing by fining him. Do they REALLY want him to come back? I mean... It's crazy.
He is not going to be good and the distraction level with him on the court goes through the roof. And if he's bad (and we know that he will be) you've decreased his value further and just made it harder on the team as a whole.
Seriously... WTF is the plan??? or is Simons camp and Sixers management just working on pure spite now?

[Pelon chingon]

Fans:
"Just trade him already"

Morey:

[Lockdown504090]

You realize that he's played his last game as a Sixer right? He's just going to say that he's not 'mentally ready' to play until he gets traded.

Even if he does play, that would be a complete disaster. Did you you watch his practice? He's completely uninterested and I can only imagine what a s*** show it would be if he steps on the court with the same attitude.

ownership doesnt want to cut him cheques, they will just keep fining him. This is a group that was cool with the process for like 4 years. They dont care. They had ben sit out a whole season when he could have played. They had joel sit out 2 of them. His only way out is to play well. He has till february. They know they arent winning in the next 3 years regardless of if they keep him or trade him for nothing.

Why again are they not winning in the next 3 years? Anything can happen in 3 years. They're one of the top teams right now without Simmons and if you can trade him for something useful, they'll be even better.

If they can trade him for fox and harkless, they should do that, even if it mean giving up a pick. short of that,there isnt a reasonable way they can get enough talent after essentially letting a guy walk that they put so much into and gave up so much for. They gave up butler, fultz for nothing because they didnt fit. now to give up ben too? they dont have enough assets to aquire good pieces. Theyre holding ben because he and their future picks are their only vehicle to building a championship team. The bucks nets bulls, all have better rosters when you take away their best player and embiid isnt better than kd or giannis. even if harden or irving or holiday go down, the 6ers still arent beating those teams because they are too good. They gotta get a good trade for ben, or reconcile if they want to win the title.

[Chinook]

There's nothing wrong with the Sixers fining Simmons so long as Morey doesn't go on camera commentating on it or the FO leaks some story about how awesome the team is for fining him or how awful Ben is for sitting out. I don't think they're being unreasonable on the face of things to either be able to do their own evaluations or consult with Simmons' doctors in order to keep paying him. Even though I can understand Simmons potentially worrying that Philly just wants to due pitstop maintenance to rush him back onto the court rather than seriously address his mental health, there has to be some good-faith effort to fulfill his side of the bargain.

Still, I do think Simmons is handling this way better from a PR perspective than he's gotten credit for. He still hasn't gone after the Sixers as far as I know. He seems to be completely against the idea of playing there again, but he's not trying to poison the well so much that they have to trade him. I don't think Philly fans understand how damaging Simmons could be if he and Klutch were the dastardly duo they get portrayed as. The narratives put out by Kawhi's camp are still being circled around on this site despite posters like Grey tirelessly debunking them. If there's any long-term damage being done to the Sixers, it's in their own statements. I don't blame Sixers fans for not supporting Simmons, but this is a pretty tame star breakup that just got be way too public.

[goodboy]

Good, good. Im glad.

[Sixerscan]

And Philly can waste a 35 million of their cap while they're trying to compete for a championship. Seems like a much bigger waste for Philly in this scenario.

I'm sure you realize that NBA has a soft cap and the Sixers wouldn't have 35 million in cap space just by getting rid of him.

Yes I do understand that. But maybe instead of asking for ridiculous returns for Simmons all summer long, he could've gotten good players that weren't superstars that took up 35 million in cap space in return for a trade.

Hell Im sure right now I bet he could get a good player that could help this 6ers team right now in return for Simmons. But no wasting that cap space is much much smarter to do when you have a team trying to win a championship this year...

Well I don't think a "good player" upgrades this roster as much as you seem to think it does. They're already pretty good, and just like an upgrade at the 1 over Maxey probably doesn't take them past the Bucks or full strength Nets.