Prokorov wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Honestly, you guys are doing a lot of wishful thinking. Eric Adams doesn't take office til next year, and frankly, we have no evidence outside of vague statements that he's going to lift the mandate.
This isn't some game. If he lifts the mandate and cases in NYC begin to skyrocket, that's his ass. There is also evidence that Adams is actually more pro mandate than DeBlasio is based on his views regarding mandating children be vaccinated to attend school.
But, whatever. I'm not looking to debate this, I just wanted to pump the brakes a bit.
Also, Woj:
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The last time Woj got on TV and spoke like this about us, Kyrie got told to stay home the next day. That was not a coincidence. I absolutely believe that Woj has a source inside the Nets and these trade calls are real.
Personally? I would not want him traded. But at this point, if the Nets can add more to this roster by trading a guy who basically abandoned the team, you do it.
Also, we're now seeing unvaccinated players going out around the league with covid. Tobias Harris is out now, Khris Middleton is out and was actually pretty symptomatic from what I read. You don't want that crap here and we lose Harden or KD for games due to exposure or actual breakthroughs.
The weather is cooling down and that is ripe for the virus to start spreading. The NY Giants are dealing with covid issues now, even a vaccinated player like Saquon Barkley tested positive. Aaron Rodgers is now out because he contracted Covid, most likely at a Halloween party (he also lied and told the media he's vaccinated, which is a whole other topic). This is not the time to be messing around.
1) Eric Adams never talked of lifting the Mandate. He talked about revising it. he said if current administration doesn't he will. Which he should since the mandate SHOULD exsist and it SHOULD be revised, since it is complete trash in a dozen ways. He want to protect citizens but also get them back to work. forcing municipal worker to get vaccinated or lost their job during the Holidays is political suicide and really not a great look. Forget Kyrie, there are plenty other instances where you hav e95% vaccinated workforce where those unvaxxed should be allowed to work following strict protocols (multipe tests, masks, etc...).
2) He said he was "extremely optomistic" kyrie would be back playing this year. Its good politically when sports teams do well. it increases economy around them. Kyrie probably doesnt move the needle for the nets so much but there are what. 12 teams across 4 sports? Scientifically, there is no reason why Beal or Middleton, or whomever poses less risk then Kyrie. The scientific risk is also approach 0 in a scenario where:
-players are vaccinated
-Kyrie is contact traced
-Kyrie is masked 100% of the time off court
-Kyrie is tested 2+ times per day
3) Regarding breakthrough infections. they are extremely rare and the majority of sports cases where COVID is infectin teams is because these guys are not actually vaccinated. Bert Breer talked today that after the rogers thing concern around the league is agents are getting this guys fake vaccination cards.
Breakthrough infection when 0-5% of your team is unvaccinated and following protocol is extremely rare. and guys like Harris/Midddleton or any player is probably more likely to get COVID from their personal live areound unmasked unvaxxed friends who are not going through testing/protocol Kyrie/unvaxxed players need to go through.
4) Most relevant to the Nets, you 100% do NOT trade Kyrie if it looks like the mandate will be revised to allow him to play. 1/2 season + playoffs of Kyrie is like 5 to 10 times better then any return we could get for him. And if you DO trade him, its after the mandate is revised, so that teams dont short change you, he can play vs the knicks/nets (2 lock playoff teams) and his value is alot higher and he can maybe play a week or 2 to raise value with on court play.
Yeah I am just saying, I don't know if Adams is going to carve out exemptions for athletes while cops, firefighters, nurses etc are on unpaid leave. He's also signaled that he wants to have vaccine mandates for children (which are technically already in place, but just adding covid to the requirements). I wouldn't get my hopes up in that regard.
Also, I look at timing. Now's the time of year where a lot of indoor activity happens and the chances of spreading amongst the unvaccinated population are pretty high. So by the time he's sworn in on New Year's Day, we'd have to hope that the data following Thanksgiving and Christmas doesn't lead to the mandate either staying how it is or getting even stricter.
And honestly based on that whole Aaron Rodgers situation, I would not be shocked if clubs aren't following league rules to the letter of the law when it comes to antivax players or guys are getting fake vaccination cards. It's a shame that it's come to blatant dishonesty now.