Chiefs Lead Up - Rodgers tests positive for COVID; Love to start

[Marley2Hendrix]

As for being a bad human, I know he makes a tremendous salary, but I'd bet a paycheck he has donated a higher percentage of his earnings to charity than anyone in this thread.

Rodgers' salary this year is $22.4M. Say he donates 25%, leaves him with a paltry $16.8M. Joe Sixpack makes $100k & donates 10% - Joe has $90k leftover. Not surprised AR12 can donate a higher percentage than anyone here.

How many Joe's are donating 10%

[brewbucks]

Rodgers: "I'm allergic to what's in Pfizer/Moderna and I didn't feel comfortable taking J&J. I've followed protocols including daily testing and my teammates all knew my status. I hope to be back for the Seattle game and I'm confident Jordan Love will play well in KC".

Criticism: Little to none

Support: A lot

Instead we get a 43 minute diatribe.

Yes, all that needed to be said and saves the team from this current PR nightmare. That being said hopefully this is a blessing in disguise for Jordan Love and Gute/MLF.

[BUCKnation]

It’s interesting. For something that Mr. Rodgers is so passionate about he’s only gotten vocal about it these past few days. Interesting. Can’t figure out why

Really? Just look at this thread. (sorry if this was sarcasm)

Rodgers has cemented himself as my favorite sports figure of all time. I was fully ready for the Rodgers era when Favre was pulling Favre shenanigans. Now, well, I'm immensely intrigued how opinion of him will sway if Love unfortunately goes out and throws one pick and has a fumble or two on blindside sacks (I am not rooting for this in the slightest and hope he does well). Before reading these reactions, well, I would have been uncomfortable watching him lead another team to a super bowl. Now, I think it'd bring a smile to my face if he winds up in Minnesota and roasts the division over the next three years, I'll just rely on the mental gymnastics of giggling at everyone in this thread declaring they are done with this stupid, bad man.

As for being a bad human, I know he makes a tremendous salary, but I'd bet a paycheck he has donated a higher percentage of his earnings to charity than anyone in this thread. Ditto for the bad man, Kyrie, referenced a few times here:

I'd wager $100 Rodgers' IQ is over 120 (more than one standard deviation over the mean; context, I've conducted over 500 comprehensive intelligence tests, and, anecdotally, my pre-test guess is almost always within 10 points) - maybe you can argue this is a case of too much horsepower without enough tuning/refinement if you don't like what he has to stay, but he's not a "stupid" individual.

Finally, if there's one thing I'm confident in, it's that the overwhelming majority of players on this team hope he continues to be the QB of this team, and I'm with them.

Advice to everyone - move on. We have a potentially special team. Enjoy it; there is a fair probability we won't have another team like this for 10 years or more.

This is a bad post. Simple math can throw out your charity argument. He could throw almost 95% of his salary at charity and still make more than vet min, which is way more than the average person can make.

Also, who cares what his IQ is? I consider myself pretty smart too, good in my field with multiple degrees and certifications and I'm not going to think I know how to run an offense better than Rodgers. Why should he think he knows science better than people who have dedicated their lives to this, like he has to football?

[DrWood]

Joe Sixpack makes $100k & donates 10%

If he makes that much, he can afford a case of the good stuff, not a 6-pack.

[DrWood]

So the question we must all ask ourselves:
Did his antics cost Aaron Rodgers his shot at being the Jeopardy host in his retirement?

[BUCKnation]

So the question we must all ask ourselves:
Did his antics cost Aaron Rodgers his shot at being the Jeopardy host in his retirement?

Their search for a new host was just as much of a PR disaster

[Swan Vox]

So the question we must all ask ourselves:
Did his antics cost Aaron Rodgers his shot at being the Jeopardy host in his retirement?

Nah, just being mediocre & boring did that. Now he gets to watch Blossom do his dream job for the next decade +. No wonder the dude is ornery lately.

[ReginaldDwight]

Joe Sixpack makes $100k & donates 10%

If he makes that much, he can afford a case of the good stuff, not a 6-pack.

Right, 100k a year is almost double what the average person makes.

[Iheartfootball]

Joe Sixpack makes $100k & donates 10%

If he makes that much, he can afford a case of the good stuff, not a 6-pack.

Right, 100k a year is almost double what the average person makes.

Depends where you live. $100k in CA ain’t getting you too far.

As far as Rodgers donating money, what does that have to do with him lying about his vaccination status, still not addressing his lie, and not following protocols?

Hail Mary’s for penance? Addresses his conscience, not the problem.

[ReasonablySober]

Read on Twitter

Rodgers is now an SNL skit.

[CannondaleF400]

I'm really interested to see what a more pure LaFleur offense will look like. Expecting less QB pre-snap changes, more runs, less Davante force-feeding. That said, I expect typical young QB mistakes and missed opportunities, and mediocre offensive output overall. Two score loss for GB.

[WRau1]

As far as Rodgers donating money, what does that have to do with him lying about his vaccination status, still not addressing his lie, and not following protocols?

Hail Mary’s for penance? Addresses his conscience, not the problem.

Nothing, all the relevant people who needed to know his status appear to have already known the entire time. As far as protocols go, it's still unclear which (if any) he broke.

[MickeyDavis]

I’m going to leave this thread open for Rodgers talk. Keep it in here and not in the game thread. THX

[coolhandluke121]

I'm really interested to see what a more pure LaFleur offense will look like. Expecting less QB pre-snap changes, more runs, less Davante force-feeding. That said, I expect typical young QB mistakes and missed opportunities, and mediocre offensive output overall. Two score loss for GB.

Some high-profile questionable calls like the FG attempt against Tampa notwithstanding, MLF's play-calling on the whole was a huge factor in their success last year, and in Aaron's resurrection as a top QB in the league. Buying in, checking his ego, and being willing to take the short chunks of yardage was a huge factor. Despite his receiving corps not being as deep as some in the past, he's never owed so much to the rest of his team and his coaches for his great numbers. The O-line was incredible, the play-calling was terrific, the receivers got a ton of YAC's, there weren't many drops despite MVS's reputation, and the running game was as good as they've had since Ahman Green.

Unfortunately the O-line isn't as good right now, but I am very curious to see what an average QB can do in this organization. I don't have high hopes for today because of the injuries and because that's not how QB development usually plays out, but I don't think they're nearly as dependent on Rodgers as they were in his other great years.

[Matches Malone]

I think what's the most frustrating thing with all of this for me, is the ignorance. I started working in healthcare in 2018, just before the pandemic hit. I walk by all the scientists and doctors on a daily basis, working in the lab on different research, medicines and things way over my head that I'll never fully understand. Why do people think their "research" is going to be anywhere near what I see daily from people who dedicate their lives to fighting infectious diseases? It truly boggles my mind.

[TheProdigy]

I'm ok with:
- Having concerns about the vaccine. The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are the first mRNA vaccines ever approved for use in humans. He's also right that there haven't been any long term studies because the vaccine was only recently rolled out. (Also I am vaccinated but had concerns myself).

I'm not ok with:
- Being purposely misleading and then doubling down. He knew what he was doing when he said "immunized" instead of "vaccinated". If he would have been truthful to begin with, he wouldn't find himself in a position where he needs to go on an hour long rant explaining himself.
- Partying at a Halloween party when he knows he's unvaccinated. Then documenting it so he can show off his costume? Come on man you're 37 years old grow up. Beyond stupid.

[Iheartfootball]

As far as Rodgers donating money, what does that have to do with him lying about his vaccination status, still not addressing his lie, and not following protocols?

Hail Mary’s for penance? Addresses his conscience, not the problem.

Nothing, all the relevant people who needed to know his status appear to have already known the entire time. As far as protocols go, it's still unclear which (if any) he broke.

Well, at a minimum he broke indoor masking protocols at the podium with media: https://www.nfl.com/_amp/nfl-nflpa-agree-to-covid-19-protocols-for-regular-season

But let’s put that aside because that’s not what I find most concerning about his behavior as a super star with a huge reach.

He still lied and hasn’t addressed it. He demonstrates little to no self awareness or humility in this situation. He cut ties with Braun over lying but can’t see the hypocrisy in his own. Or maybe he does and he’s too ashamed to face it.

I find it fascinating that he says he worked on his mental health this off-season, yet I see zero positive results from that work.

[Isocleas2]

With Rodgers the juice is no longer worth the squeeze. I'm hoping the Packers trade him for a nice haul of picks in the offseason and someone else can deal with all his baggage.

[sidney lanier]

I think what's the most frustrating thing with all of this for me, is the ignorance. I started working in healthcare in 2018, just before the pandemic hit. I walk by all the scientists and doctors on a daily basis, working in the lab on different research, medicines and things way over my head that I'll never fully understand. Why do people think their "research" is going to be anywhere near what I see daily from people who dedicate their lives to fighting infectious diseases? It truly boggles my mind.

Mine too. One of the spokesmodels on a pregame show this morning justified Rodgers' stance by endorsing his statement that he wants to foster discussion. This reminded me of Kyrie justifying his flat-eartherism by saying the same thing.

When it comes to evidence-based medicine, or facts like gravity or the shape of the earth, there is nothing to discuss. The earth is round (more or less). Gravity exists. Germs exist and cause disease. Vaccines work. Addlepated theories like homeopathy do not deserve to have discussion fostered about them. Is the sky blue? Let's discuss. Is that where we are now?

Maybe it's social media, or the polarization of our society, or something else, but no, stupid should not be given equal time. Stupid is stupid. Facts are facts. Let's have the courage, as a society, to laugh in its face.

[WRau1]

Well, at a minimum he broke indoor masking protocols at the podium with media: https://www.nfl.com/_amp/nfl-nflpa-agree-to-covid-19-protocols-for-regular-season

On ESPN and multiple sports talk radio shows I've listened to, they had "experts" on and no one could say for sure if that rule was suspended. The guy on ESPN said that at one point late last season/earlier this season that it was.