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Re: Bears talk 2.0; Fields era begins for real for real 

Post#1401 » by Jcool0 » Fri Nov 5, 2021 3:27 am

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Post#1403 » by fleet » Fri Nov 5, 2021 12:07 pm

Brian Daboll eh? Sounds good to me. Vance Joseph would feel like a comfortable hire in Chicago.

A proven head coach would be best though. The Bears have had recently like one good hire of a coordinator, and that was a defensive coordinator. They don’t know what they are doing and it would be dumb luck if they got the right one.
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Post#1404 » by Jcool0 » Fri Nov 5, 2021 2:22 pm

fleet wrote:Brian Daboll eh? Sounds good to me. Vance Joseph would feel like a comfortable hire in Chicago.

A proven head coach would be best though. The Bears have had recently like one good hire of a coordinator, and that was a defensive coordinator. They don’t know what they are doing and it would be dumb luck if they got the right one.


Who would that proven head coach be? Vic Fangio? Mike Zimmer? Brian Flores? All guys who have had offensive issues and multiple OCs. Doesn't seem like a good idea for a team that needs Justin Fields to pan out. Do you go with Todd Bowles? Raheem Morris? Dennis Allen? If you have noticed a trend its all these are defensive coaches. Would the Bears spend 7+ million on Ryan Day, Matt Campbell or Lincoln Riley? Doubtful. Would they break the bank to bring Jim Harbaugh back to Chicago?
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Post#1405 » by Dresden » Fri Nov 5, 2021 2:27 pm

It would be much better if they searched for a new GM, and then let that person hire his own coach. If they're just looking to replace Nagy, that means Pace is safe.
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Post#1406 » by fleet » Fri Nov 5, 2021 2:52 pm

Yeah, it’s kind of a bad indicator if we read that the mad draft pick trader is free to keep deplatforming the team via wasting more picks and money going forward. As well as choose another failed coach. A McCaskey never fails to disappoint.
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Post#1407 » by micromonkey » Fri Nov 5, 2021 5:07 pm

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/bears-mailbag-should-bears-really-get-rid-of-ryan-pace/

I'd be for this Paxton like move if true.
He'd be better than Ted running things--of course he never gets fired so probably Pace EVP and Ted same title as he has just less actual influence.
Pace is not a total incompetent idiot like Ted. As long as we could get a competent GM.

Unless a contender gets them OBJ/Jackson worth it?
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Post#1408 » by patryk7754 » Fri Nov 5, 2021 5:09 pm

I think nagy being gone means Pace will be gone to but there's still a decent chance he stays. If that is the case, I'd like to see Fangio return as DC (he'll probably be fired) and I think Joe Brady will be the yop candidate for HC because he's the next big brain offensive play caller and there's the Saints connection Brady and Pace share.

If Pace is gone I'd like to see him replaced with Brandon Hunt. The pro scout coordinator with the Steelers. The steelers have probably been the best FO since at least the Tomlin era. The steelers have consistently replenished the roster with pro bowlers. They don't really miss on draft picks and when they make trades they make the best possible move available. Hunt will bring the right culture with him.

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I think that wins an offseason for any team
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Post#1409 » by fleet » Fri Nov 5, 2021 5:17 pm

micromonkey wrote:https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/bears-mailbag-should-bears-really-get-rid-of-ryan-pace/

I'd be for this Paxton like move if true.
He'd be better than Ted running things--of course he never gets fired so probably Pace EVP and Ted same title as he has just less actual influence.
Pace is not a total incompetent idiot like Ted. As long as we could get a competent GM.

Unless a contender gets them OBJ/Jackson worth it?

Somebody has been signing off on Pace’s cap schemes, and whoever’s doing that needs to be stopped as well.
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Post#1410 » by patryk7754 » Fri Nov 5, 2021 5:26 pm

fleet wrote:Yeah, it’s kind of a bad indicator if we read that the mad draft pick trader is free to keep deplatforming the team via wasting more picks and money going forward. As well as choose another failed coach. A McCaskey never fails to disappoint.

Thats one of the main reasons I want to get someone from the Steelers. The last two major trades have been for Fitzpatrick who was on his rookie contract still and instantly became a DPOY candidate. and the other was for the LB from Michigan who has proven to be really really good. Other than those two moves they use their picks in the draft and they hardly miss.
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Post#1411 » by chicagoballer » Sat Nov 6, 2021 12:13 am

I think Rodgers is going to take a big hit to his image with the recent comments, especially taking medical advice from joe Rogan. I couldnt care less about him “being cancelled”, even if he wasn’t a packers great who beat up on us. Don’t spread medical suggestions just because you are famous. People will believe it. Leave it to the doctors and scientists.

I have a feeling rodgers career is coming to an end sooner than expected. Beginning of the end. All the off season drama, already old, and now this.
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Post#1412 » by Hold That » Sat Nov 6, 2021 4:14 pm

Dresden wrote:It would be much better if they searched for a new GM, and then let that person hire his own coach. If they're just looking to replace Nagy, that means Pace is safe.

Ownership loves Pace he’s not going anywhere.
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Post#1414 » by dice » Sat Nov 6, 2021 7:15 pm

chicagoballer wrote:I think Rodgers is going to take a big hit to his image with the recent comments, especially taking medical advice from joe Rogan. I couldnt care less about him “being cancelled”, even if he wasn’t a packers great who beat up on us. Don’t spread medical suggestions just because you are famous. People will believe it. Leave it to the doctors and scientists.

the biggest issue is the deceit and not following protocols. he lied, now is lying about lying and trying to put it on the packers organization...as usual

which brings up the protocols that rodgers broke, which are pretty silly. they're allowing vaccinated players to speak at press conferences w/o wearing masks even though a vaccinated individual who is infected can spread it about as easily as an infected person who is NOT vaccinated. they should all be wearing masks. yes, it is significantly harder for a vaccinated individual to contract COVID in the first place, but not by such a large amount that the mask policy should differ
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Post#1415 » by TheAlanParsons » Sat Nov 6, 2021 8:09 pm

patryk7754 wrote:I think nagy being gone means Pace will be gone to but there's still a decent chance he stays. If that is the case, I'd like to see Fangio return as DC (he'll probably be fired) and I think Joe Brady will be the yop candidate for HC because he's the next big brain offensive play caller and there's the Saints connection Brady and Pace share.

If Pace is gone I'd like to see him replaced with Brandon Hunt. The pro scout coordinator with the Steelers. The steelers have probably been the best FO since at least the Tomlin era. The steelers have consistently replenished the roster with pro bowlers. They don't really miss on draft picks and when they make trades they make the best possible move available. Hunt will bring the right culture with him.

Hunt
Fangio
Brady

I think that wins an offseason for any team

The Steelers run like a well oiled machine because they probably have the best ownership history in the NFL.
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Post#1416 » by patryk7754 » Sun Nov 7, 2021 4:20 pm

The bears have little cap flexibility with a lot of free agents. Most of our cap will have to go resigning players. On the bright side, we only have two major holes to address, the secondary and OT. In the secondary, we could use at least one corner and safety to replace Gibson. I like Bryce Callahan to come back for CB. For safety, we have a decent amount of options. They're probably too expensive but would be great additions, Mathieu, Diggs, and Adrian Phillips. Marcus Maye just tore his Achilles I think, so he could probably be had for the minimum but who knows when he'd come back if at all in 2022/23

As for OT, we have some decent options. We could go after Armstead to be the LT and have Jenkins play RT but Armstead might get a record contract. Same goes for Trenton Brown. The other LT options are pretty old and have had injuries. Morgan Moses was an underrated RT in Washington. Idk how he's played with the Jets but he's not too old and based on what he did in Washington he would be the best RT we've had in many many years and I don't think he'd be very expensive.
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Post#1417 » by TheFinishSniper » Sun Nov 7, 2021 9:47 pm

fleet wrote:Brian Daboll eh? Sounds good to me. Vance Joseph would feel like a comfortable hire in Chicago.

A proven head coach would be best though. The Bears have had recently like one good hire of a coordinator, and that was a defensive coordinator. They don’t know what they are doing and it would be dumb luck if they got the right one.

Proven head coach who can can adjust to players on roster. He doesnt need to be "quarterback whisperer", but he needs to run a team to players strenght. And I can tell you Nagy sucks so much at it. When he letting others run a offense Bears and Fields look miles better. Which is average compared to rest of league, but miles better than being bad it.

We invested some draft capital in our QB. You might as well play to his strenghts for now.
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Post#1418 » by Susan » Mon Nov 8, 2021 1:04 am

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fleet wrote:Brian Daboll eh? Sounds good to me. Vance Joseph would feel like a comfortable hire in Chicago.

A proven head coach would be best though. The Bears have had recently like one good hire of a coordinator, and that was a defensive coordinator. They don’t know what they are doing and it would be dumb luck if they got the right one.

Proven head coach who can can adjust to players on roster. He doesnt need to be "quarterback whisperer", but he needs to run a team to players strenght. And I can tell you Nagy sucks so much at it. When he letting others run a offense Bears and Fields look miles better. Which is average compared to rest of league, but miles better than being bad it.

We invested some draft capital in our QB. You might as well play to his strenghts for now.


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However, one source revealed a few interesting details about the thought process inside Halas Hall. The thinking right now is that ownership prefers a head coach with experience. Be it a former NFL guy or a current college head coach.

The reasoning behind this?
A steady track record of getting burned by first-time head coaches over the years. Dave Wannstedt, Dick Jauron, and now Nagy. Lovie Smith was the only bright spot in an otherwise ugly stretch. Then again Marc Trestman and John Fox had experience and they didn’t do all that great. Though in fairness Trestman got his in Canada, a very different style of game, and Fox was 60-years old. Past his prime at that point.



Gimme Jim Harbaugh - he hired Greg Roman in SF and Fangio. Him and his brother have great coordinators on the regular and Alex Smith turned his career around with those Niner teams. 44-19-1 in 4 seasons, 3 conference championship appearances, 1 Super Bowl appearance without a franchise QB. They sucked before him and after he left and he's an ex-Bear.
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Post#1420 » by dice » Mon Nov 8, 2021 2:05 am

with a victory the bears will be half a game behind the falcons for the final playoff spot heading into their bye week. with the falcons heading into dallas next week. take that for what it's worth
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