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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#41 » by god shammgod » Sun Nov 7, 2021 6:12 pm

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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#42 » by DaGawd » Sun Nov 7, 2021 6:13 pm

Knicks being smart and load managing is a welcome surprise with Thibs
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#43 » by Fat Kat » Sun Nov 7, 2021 6:17 pm

Don’t start Rose. Keep him coming off the bench for continuity sake
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#44 » by Mister Ed » Sun Nov 7, 2021 6:33 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:you know he’s damaged goods when we have to rest him. sad
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It was obvious he would sit today or tomorrow night and better tonight against a faster backcourt. This was clear when we signed him on back to backs - it’s not sad it’s wise.
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#45 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Nov 7, 2021 6:36 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:you know he’s damaged goods when we have to rest him. sad
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It was obvious he would sit today or tomorrow night and better tonight against a faster backcourt. This was clear when we signed him on back to backs - it’s not sad it’s wise.

what's sad is that he's much worse than derrick rose even with rest. we didn't sign him to be worse than our bench player
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#46 » by robillionaire » Sun Nov 7, 2021 6:39 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Mister Ed wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:you know he’s damaged goods when we have to rest him. sad
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It was obvious he would sit today or tomorrow night and better tonight against a faster backcourt. This was clear when we signed him on back to backs - it’s not sad it’s wise.

what's sad is that he's much worse than derrick rose even with rest. we didn't sign him to be worse than our bench player


We paid Rose more money last summer everybody knows he’s more valuable
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#47 » by robillionaire » Sun Nov 7, 2021 6:40 pm

Anyway what’s the rotation going to look like

I’ll guess he starts Rose and has IQ at backup PG
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#48 » by blueNorange » Sun Nov 7, 2021 6:41 pm

just so y’all know, good chance thibs just goes with one less guy vs playing someone else

that’s how he operated last year
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#49 » by NYKnickerbocker » Sun Nov 7, 2021 6:46 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Mister Ed wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:you know he’s damaged goods when we have to rest him. sad
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It was obvious he would sit today or tomorrow night and better tonight against a faster backcourt. This was clear when we signed him on back to backs - it’s not sad it’s wise.

what's sad is that he's much worse than derrick rose even with rest. we didn't sign him to be worse than our bench player

I mean rose is playing better than a quite a few starting guards on other teams lol. You can be playing worse than rose and still be a good player. But Kemba has been lackluster besides a few games.
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#50 » by HEZI » Sun Nov 7, 2021 6:46 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Mister Ed wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:you know he’s damaged goods when we have to rest him. sad
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It was obvious he would sit today or tomorrow night and better tonight against a faster backcourt. This was clear when we signed him on back to backs - it’s not sad it’s wise.

what's sad is that he's much worse than derrick rose even with rest. we didn't sign him to be worse than our bench player


Derrick Rose is better than or just as good as most starting PGs in the league. I said when we signed Kemba that Rose was still better than him and that was obvious to anybody who actually watched both play last season. As far as Kemba goes, he’s not getting paid started money so we got what we paid for.
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#51 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Nov 7, 2021 6:51 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
Mister Ed wrote:
It was obvious he would sit today or tomorrow night and better tonight against a faster backcourt. This was clear when we signed him on back to backs - it’s not sad it’s wise.

what's sad is that he's much worse than derrick rose even with rest. we didn't sign him to be worse than our bench player

I mean rose is playing better than a quite a few starting guards on other teams lol. You can be playing worse than rose and still be a good player. But Kemba has been lackluster besides a few games.

not convinced kemba is good. he's mid
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#52 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Nov 7, 2021 6:58 pm

HEZI wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Mister Ed wrote:
It was obvious he would sit today or tomorrow night and better tonight against a faster backcourt. This was clear when we signed him on back to backs - it’s not sad it’s wise.

what's sad is that he's much worse than derrick rose even with rest. we didn't sign him to be worse than our bench player


Derrick Rose is better than or just as good as most starting PGs in the league. I said when we signed Kemba that Rose was still better than him and that was obvious to anybody who actually watched both play last season. As far as Kemba goes, he’s not getting paid started money so we got what we paid for.

rose should be starting then imo. i mean he's already closing out games with us. kemba's defense is too atrocious to be starting anymore. kemba has to be that 18-20 PPG scorer to outweigh his defensive warts and it's clear as day he's not that guy anymore on offense.
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#53 » by HEZI » Sun Nov 7, 2021 7:07 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
HEZI wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:what's sad is that he's much worse than derrick rose even with rest. we didn't sign him to be worse than our bench player


Derrick Rose is better than or just as good as most starting PGs in the league. I said when we signed Kemba that Rose was still better than him and that was obvious to anybody who actually watched both play last season. As far as Kemba goes, he’s not getting paid started money so we got what we paid for.

rose should be starting then imo. i mean he's already closing out games with us. kemba's defense is too atrocious to be starting anymore. kemba has to be that 18-20 PPG scorer to outweigh his defensive warts and it's clear as day he's not that guy anymore on offense.


Our bench play is the key to our success and Rose is the key to the bench play so same story as last year.

Rose has already found comfort in coming off the bench whereas Kemba is likely going to need a mental adjustment to eventually embrace the inevitable
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#54 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Nov 7, 2021 7:14 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
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Derrick Rose is better than or just as good as most starting PGs in the league. I said when we signed Kemba that Rose was still better than him and that was obvious to anybody who actually watched both play last season. As far as Kemba goes, he’s not getting paid started money so we got what we paid for.

rose should be starting then imo. i mean he's already closing out games with us. kemba's defense is too atrocious to be starting anymore. kemba has to be that 18-20 PPG scorer to outweigh his defensive warts and it's clear as day he's not that guy anymore on offense.


Our bench play is the key to our success and Rose is the key to the bench play so same story as last year.

Rose has already found comfort in coming off the bench whereas Kemba is likely going to need a mental adjustment to eventually embrace the inevitable

yeah ideally would love to keep rose on the bench. just dont know if we can live with that if kemba continues to be non existent on defense. its even worse being next to fournier who's ass on defense. wish thibs would find a way to get grimes in the rotation but we know it's never happening until next year at least
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#55 » by Mister Ed » Sun Nov 7, 2021 7:21 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
HEZI wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:what's sad is that he's much worse than derrick rose even with rest. we didn't sign him to be worse than our bench player


Derrick Rose is better than or just as good as most starting PGs in the league. I said when we signed Kemba that Rose was still better than him and that was obvious to anybody who actually watched both play last season. As far as Kemba goes, he’s not getting paid started money so we got what we paid for.

rose should be starting then imo. i mean he's already closing out games with us. kemba's defense is too atrocious to be starting anymore. kemba has to be that 18-20 PPG scorer to outweigh his defensive warts and it's clear as day he's not that guy anymore on offense.


He’s not that 20ppg player anymore - he’s been slated to play 20 minutes a game & came fairly cheap. Rose should be ending games & there may be nights Kemba has it going and he will finish. You just hate the guy. I read an interview of Barrett today and the team loves him for his leadership and positivity. You never know what he could provide come playoff time - that’s why he is here & why he will sit back to back and get 20 minutes per game.
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#56 » by F N 11 » Sun Nov 7, 2021 7:26 pm

Perfect game to rest Kemba. Rose on a roll and we will need guard defense for their back court. Please play more RJ with bench or play McBride.
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#57 » by K_ick_God » Sun Nov 7, 2021 7:36 pm

RJ and Rose each 45 minutes incoming.
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#58 » by RHODEY » Sun Nov 7, 2021 7:50 pm

Fat Kat wrote:Don’t start Rose. Keep him coming off the bench for continuity sake

I actually agree with this.
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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#59 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Nov 7, 2021 8:05 pm

Mister Ed wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
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Derrick Rose is better than or just as good as most starting PGs in the league. I said when we signed Kemba that Rose was still better than him and that was obvious to anybody who actually watched both play last season. As far as Kemba goes, he’s not getting paid started money so we got what we paid for.

rose should be starting then imo. i mean he's already closing out games with us. kemba's defense is too atrocious to be starting anymore. kemba has to be that 18-20 PPG scorer to outweigh his defensive warts and it's clear as day he's not that guy anymore on offense.


He’s not that 20ppg player anymore - he’s been slated to play 20 minutes a game & came fairly cheap. Rose should be ending games & there may be nights Kemba has it going and he will finish. You just hate the guy. I read an interview of Barrett today and the team loves him for his leadership and positivity. You never know what he could provide come playoff time - that’s why he is here & why he will sit back to back and get 20 minutes per game.

This sounds eerily similar to the Payton defenders last year. Sorry I’m just not a homer like you . I go by the facts.

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Re: Knicks vs Cleveland GT/ Sunday 6 pm 

Post#60 » by duetta » Sun Nov 7, 2021 8:09 pm

I want McBride getting minutes tonight.

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