For one night, Ricky Rubio finally gets to feel what it's like to be Steph Curry

[John Murdoch]

Rubio has become a specialist in running inexperienced teams. He was a great choice for Minny a while back, then the Suns, and now the Cavs.

Like the player version of Alvin Gentry

[JonFromVA]

Haha I agree. Why Cavs should think about moving him while his value is high. Koby Altman has a really bad habit of holding onto assets too long though.

maybe Cavs prefer to keep winning games?

I mean, hopefully whatever they get in return helps them achieve that and sustain it for longer, no? Holding onto an expiring 31 year old PG smells an awful lot like holding onto an expiring Drummond, an expiring partial guaranteed JR, and trading away a young point forward on a cheap rookie deal for a top 55 protected 2nd rounder because they refused to play him.

Whoa ... a whole lot wrong with those comments. Not to distract from this Rubio moment too much, but each of those players was in open revolt against the team and were first and foremost responsible for wrecking their own trade value for what they did on-court and off-court.

What happens with Ricky will depend on Ricky. If he's interested in sticking around with the team and extending, they should definitely discuss it. Maybe the Cavs are the contenders he's been looking for? If he still wants to control his own fate, then it comes down to what the Cavs can get for him. It's not clear at all at this point whether Kevin Pangos will be able to pickup the backup PG minutes, and JBB doesn't seem particularly interested in finding out. So, as long as their relationship doesn't go south, holding Ricky's Bird rights is worth something.

In general, the Cavs enjoy flipping expiring contracts for assets and salary that will eventually expire ... this just may be turning in to an exception.

[JujitsuFlip]

maybe Cavs prefer to keep winning games?

I mean, hopefully whatever they get in return helps them achieve that and sustain it for longer, no? Holding onto an expiring 31 year old PG smells an awful lot like holding onto an expiring Drummond, an expiring partial guaranteed JR, and trading away a young point forward on a cheap rookie deal for a top 55 protected 2nd rounder because they refused to play him.

The guy's the only playable vet on a roster full of guys all younger than 25. I would argue him being on the team helps them immensely. What exactly would you expect in return anyways? He is an expiring contract 31 year old. They might get a late first round pick at best for him.

Since the roster is devoid of actual wing players, I would start there. With the Sexton news obviously holding onto Rubio until at least NYE makes sense. I'm just not sure having Rubio on the roster past February 10th makes a lot of sense.

[JujitsuFlip]

maybe Cavs prefer to keep winning games?

I mean, hopefully whatever they get in return helps them achieve that and sustain it for longer, no? Holding onto an expiring 31 year old PG smells an awful lot like holding onto an expiring Drummond, an expiring partial guaranteed JR, and trading away a young point forward on a cheap rookie deal for a top 55 protected 2nd rounder because they refused to play him.

Whoa ... a whole lot wrong with those comments. Not to distract from this Rubio moment too much, but each of those players was in open revolt against the team and were first and foremost responsible for wrecking their own trade value for what they did on-court and off-court.

What happens with Ricky will depend on Ricky. If he's interested in sticking around with the team and extending, they should definitely discuss it. Maybe the Cavs are the contenders he's been looking for? If he still wants to control his own fate, then it comes down to what the Cavs can get for him. It's not clear at all at this point whether Kevin Pangos will be able to pickup the backup PG minutes, and JBB doesn't seem particularly interested in finding out. So, as long as their relationship doesn't go south, holding Ricky's Bird rights is worth something.

In general, the Cavs enjoy flipping expiring contracts for assets and salary that will eventually expire ... this just may be turning in to an exception.

KPJ just wanted to play and they refused to play him. Drummond probably never should've been acquired in the first place but last season when the team is 9-9 with Drummond averaging a double-double is a time to pounce. Similar to Cedi and Rubio currently who are playing outta their minds. The JR thing was just dumb how they kept giving him money while pushing back his guarantee date, just cut the guy he was held onto for way too long.

Pangos can't play in this league but go sign a Dunn or Exum type back-up PG, its time for Garland to take the reigns on this team, especially with the Sexton news. Also, I disagree having Rubio on the roster past February 10th makes much sense, considering the rumor is he will end up in Spain. Plus he has openly stated he didn't want to be on a team like the Cavs, he wants to be on a title contender.

[Jazztop]

Rubio is a good guy and good player - great professional. His shot hasn’t been the most consistent but it looked like he was having fun against the Knicks

[JonFromVA]

I mean, hopefully whatever they get in return helps them achieve that and sustain it for longer, no? Holding onto an expiring 31 year old PG smells an awful lot like holding onto an expiring Drummond, an expiring partial guaranteed JR, and trading away a young point forward on a cheap rookie deal for a top 55 protected 2nd rounder because they refused to play him.

Whoa ... a whole lot wrong with those comments. Not to distract from this Rubio moment too much, but each of those players was in open revolt against the team and were first and foremost responsible for wrecking their own trade value for what they did on-court and off-court.

What happens with Ricky will depend on Ricky. If he's interested in sticking around with the team and extending, they should definitely discuss it. Maybe the Cavs are the contenders he's been looking for? If he still wants to control his own fate, then it comes down to what the Cavs can get for him. It's not clear at all at this point whether Kevin Pangos will be able to pickup the backup PG minutes, and JBB doesn't seem particularly interested in finding out. So, as long as their relationship doesn't go south, holding Ricky's Bird rights is worth something.

In general, the Cavs enjoy flipping expiring contracts for assets and salary that will eventually expire ... this just may be turning in to an exception.

KPJ just wanted to play and they refused to play him. Drummond probably never should've been acquired in the first place but last season when the team is 9-9 with Drummond averaging a double-double is a time to pounce. Similar to Cedi and Rubio currently who are playing outta their minds. The JR thing was just dumb how they kept giving him money while pushing back his guarantee date, just cut the guy he was held onto for way too long.

Pangos can't play in this league but go sign a Dunn or Exum type back-up PG, its time for Garland to take the reigns on this team, especially with the Sexton news. Also, I disagree having Rubio on the roster past February 10th makes much sense, considering the rumor is he will end up in Spain. Plus he has openly stated he didn't want to be on a team like the Cavs, he wants to be on a title contender.

If you want to discuss non-Rubio topics, please start something up in the Cavs section and I'll toss you some facts.

I have no idea what Pangos can or can't do, but from his highlights it looked to me like he knows how to run a P&R, and in general Euroleague PG's understand how to do PG things like making inbound passes and setting up teammates. Unlike Exum or Dunn, he can shoot the 3-ball which has value in our offense.

Rubio has significant value to the Cavs even if he doesn't want to be here next year. If we knew he was going to start acting unprofessional to force a buyout, that would change things; but it still comes down to what's offered.

[JujitsuFlip]

Whoa ... a whole lot wrong with those comments. Not to distract from this Rubio moment too much, but each of those players was in open revolt against the team and were first and foremost responsible for wrecking their own trade value for what they did on-court and off-court.

What happens with Ricky will depend on Ricky. If he's interested in sticking around with the team and extending, they should definitely discuss it. Maybe the Cavs are the contenders he's been looking for? If he still wants to control his own fate, then it comes down to what the Cavs can get for him. It's not clear at all at this point whether Kevin Pangos will be able to pickup the backup PG minutes, and JBB doesn't seem particularly interested in finding out. So, as long as their relationship doesn't go south, holding Ricky's Bird rights is worth something.

In general, the Cavs enjoy flipping expiring contracts for assets and salary that will eventually expire ... this just may be turning in to an exception.

KPJ just wanted to play and they refused to play him. Drummond probably never should've been acquired in the first place but last season when the team is 9-9 with Drummond averaging a double-double is a time to pounce. Similar to Cedi and Rubio currently who are playing outta their minds. The JR thing was just dumb how they kept giving him money while pushing back his guarantee date, just cut the guy he was held onto for way too long.

Pangos can't play in this league but go sign a Dunn or Exum type back-up PG, its time for Garland to take the reigns on this team, especially with the Sexton news. Also, I disagree having Rubio on the roster past February 10th makes much sense, considering the rumor is he will end up in Spain. Plus he has openly stated he didn't want to be on a team like the Cavs, he wants to be on a title contender.

If you want to discuss non-Rubio topics, please start something up in the Cavs section and I'll toss you some facts.

I have no idea what Pangos can or can't do, but from his highlights it looked to me like he knows how to run a P&R, and in general Euroleague PG's understand how to do PG things like making inbound passes and setting up teammates. Unlike Exum or Dunn, he can shoot the 3-ball which has value in our offense.

Rubio has significant value to the Cavs even if he doesn't want to be here next year. If we knew he was going to start acting unprofessional to force a buyout, that would change things; but it still comes down to what's offered.

Exum and Dunn type players provide length and defense, something the team needs on the perimeter. Pangos has not shown he is capable of making 3's from 23 feet 9 inches. He shot 14% from deep in preseason and is 0-1 in the regular season.

Rubio has value on the Cavs until February 10, 2022 at 3:01 pm, especially with the Sexton news as I said. Beyond that he is negative value and will file into the category of another asset held onto for too long by Koby.

[ShootersShoot]

I mean, hopefully whatever they get in return helps them achieve that and sustain it for longer, no? Holding onto an expiring 31 year old PG smells an awful lot like holding onto an expiring Drummond, an expiring partial guaranteed JR, and trading away a young point forward on a cheap rookie deal for a top 55 protected 2nd rounder because they refused to play him.

The guy's the only playable vet on a roster full of guys all younger than 25. I would argue him being on the team helps them immensely. What exactly would you expect in return anyways? He is an expiring contract 31 year old. They might get a late first round pick at best for him.

Since the roster is devoid of actual wing players, I would start there. With the Sexton news obviously holding onto Rubio until at least NYE makes sense. I'm just not sure having Rubio on the roster past February 10th makes a lot of sense.

Not sure rubio gets more than a decent rotation wing at best, like a T Prince maybe, or I guess Batum at best case? Makes sense though since they have gaping holes at the wing.

[JonFromVA]

The guy's the only playable vet on a roster full of guys all younger than 25. I would argue him being on the team helps them immensely. What exactly would you expect in return anyways? He is an expiring contract 31 year old. They might get a late first round pick at best for him.

Since the roster is devoid of actual wing players, I would start there. With the Sexton news obviously holding onto Rubio until at least NYE makes sense. I'm just not sure having Rubio on the roster past February 10th makes a lot of sense.

Not sure rubio gets more than a decent rotation wing at best, like a T Prince maybe, or I guess Batum at best case? Makes sense though since they have gaping holes at the wing.

So flip him back for less than what we gave up to get him?

I'd prefer to keep him in that scenario, rather than create a gaping hole at backup PG.

I could see the Cavs giving Pangos some run just so they have a better idea of what they do or don't have, because if he's at all decent, then they can entertain a deal where they trade Rubio for a little used but young wing on a contender that needs a PG.

[bbalnation]

I doubt Steph would let himself shoot 100% from 3, it means he hasn't taken 3 full court shots and 6 risky threes, esp when he's hot.

As far as Ricky: I've always been a believer, and still am. To me, he's an example of what it's like to be an NBA player in the wrong environments.

I can only imagine what his career would have been had he taken the Goran Dragic career route for example (mentored by Nash) instead of getting thrown into the Wolves with that awful management and 7 point guards they'd just drafted. Or the most ideal scenario, playing for Dantoni at any point, whether in NY, Houston, Brooklyn, etc.

[JujitsuFlip]

The guy's the only playable vet on a roster full of guys all younger than 25. I would argue him being on the team helps them immensely. What exactly would you expect in return anyways? He is an expiring contract 31 year old. They might get a late first round pick at best for him.

Since the roster is devoid of actual wing players, I would start there. With the Sexton news obviously holding onto Rubio until at least NYE makes sense. I'm just not sure having Rubio on the roster past February 10th makes a lot of sense.

Not sure rubio gets more than a decent rotation wing at best, like a T Prince maybe, or I guess Batum at best case? Makes sense though since they have gaping holes at the wing.

Hard to say but I would say a career high 37 points on a career high 8 three pointers boosts Rubio's value.

[ShootersShoot]

Since the roster is devoid of actual wing players, I would start there. With the Sexton news obviously holding onto Rubio until at least NYE makes sense. I'm just not sure having Rubio on the roster past February 10th makes a lot of sense.

Not sure rubio gets more than a decent rotation wing at best, like a T Prince maybe, or I guess Batum at best case? Makes sense though since they have gaping holes at the wing.

Hard to say but I would say a career high 37 points on a career high 8 three pointers boosts Rubio's value.

He has value but really only for a "contender"..he's also an expiring so essentially a rental as well. Probably can get back a decent rotation wing. Nobody is giving up a quality starting wing for rubio.

[JujitsuFlip]

Not sure rubio gets more than a decent rotation wing at best, like a T Prince maybe, or I guess Batum at best case? Makes sense though since they have gaping holes at the wing.

Hard to say but I would say a career high 37 points on a career high 8 three pointers boosts Rubio's value.

He has value but really only for a "contender"..he's also an expiring so essentially a rental as well. Probably can get back a decent rotation wing. Nobody is giving up a quality starting wing for rubio.

A decent rotation wing probably starts for the Cavs. But yeah Rubio gonna be needed until at least Sexton comes back so if he keeps having games like this will only boost his value.

[floppymoose]

Well Rubio wasn't the ? Choice at the time, it was Flynn. But ofc him and Steph's career will be always compared since he was drafted over him.

Ricky would have been really special if his career did not get derailed by injuries. Definitely not Stephen Curry level, but his career is a giant "what-if", even with how solid he has been despite those injuries.

Yeah, this is how he moved as a rookie:

Watch on YouTube

He was a quick, long guard with a terrible shot and amazing BBIQ. Led the NBA in steal percentage three times. He's basically had no athleticism for 5 years now but finds a way to be effective.

oh god, that cast... Darko, Wes, Beasley.... it's like a who's who of guys who dont understand basketball. Reminds me of early 2000's Warriors. Rubio didn't have a lot to work with.

[KuruptedCav]

I don’t get why he’s not on a contender. Clippers and others pursued hard the year before last... then Minny ends up traded for worthless trash? 2nd round pick, Prince and cash??? Any team could have offered that package. A number of contenders could use him, and I know he wanted to play for a title contender.

It is strange how Rondo seems to have made a career for himself as the king of contenders benches whereas Rubio has been stuck wandering between inexperienced teams showing them how to run an offense, they have basically exactly the same skill set.

you can see how he doesn't usually score much, that shooting form looks as lead footed as Valančiūnas.

It’s the money. Rubio makes more this season than Rondo has in the last four combined.

It’s difficult for contenders with multiple stats to fit $17 million into their budget. He’s never taken a pay cut. It may come the time that he does, but I figure he’ll wrap it up in Spain before he takes Rondo money in the US.


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[Yeggo Poleggo]

I remember all the Rubio hype on this board when he was first about to come to the NBA.

I cant believe its been that long, already.

[Domejandro]

Ricky would have been really special if his career did not get derailed by injuries. Definitely not Stephen Curry level, but his career is a giant "what-if", even with how solid he has been despite those injuries.

Yeah, this is how he moved as a rookie:

Watch on YouTube

He was a quick, long guard with a terrible shot and amazing BBIQ. Led the NBA in steal percentage three times. He's basically had no athleticism for 5 years now but finds a way to be effective.

oh god, that cast... Darko, Wes, Beasley.... it's like a who's who of guys who dont understand basketball. Reminds me of early 2000's Warriors. Rubio didn't have a lot to work with.

Amazing thing is that Minnesota was a .500 team on track to make the Playoffs with rookie Ricky Rubio as their Point Guard. People forget that he was the front runner right ahead of Kyrie Irving for Rookie of the Year. Insane how much a couple injuries can change things.

[JujitsuFlip]

https://sports.yahoo.com/ricky-rubio-nice-play-stephen-110131286.html

Speaking of him getting to feel like Steph Curry, quite the interesting quote from Rubio. He said, “It would be nice to play with Curry and Klay Thompson".

Very interesting, Cavs should probably move off his $17.8 million expiring contract considering he has a blown ACL and will walk in free agency.

[madmaxmedia]

Curry is shooting 37% from the 3 this year. Few years ago Rubio shot basically the same

For one season, Steph Curry finally gets to feel what it's like to be Ricky Rubio

[Pantsman]

https://sports.yahoo.com/ricky-rubio-nice-play-stephen-110131286.html

Speaking of him getting to feel like Steph Curry, quite the interesting quote from Rubio. He said, “It would be nice to play with Curry and Klay Thompson".

Very interesting, Cavs should probably move off his $17.8 million expiring contract considering he has a blown ACL and will walk in free agency.

Why is it assumed he’d walk in free agency? I think he showed the cavs how important he is to their team. They haven’t looked the same offensively since he left. I wouldn’t be surprised if he got a short term deal with a similar salary he had.