Nikola Jokic Shoves Markieff Morris After Morris's Foul; Both Ejected

[bubonicphoniks]

Youre not getting it.

When two guys are standing around in between whistles there is no reason to body check a guy from behind. THAT IS NOT A BASKETBALL PLAY.

Morris hit was a basketball play, albiet an unnecssessary and excessive one. Flagrant 2.

Sheesh.

@Capn'O

[Duffman100]

Youre not getting it.

When two guys are standing around in between whistles there is no reason to body check a guy from behind. THAT IS NOT A BASKETBALL PLAY.

Morris hit was a basketball play, albiet an unnecssessary and excessive one. Flagrant 2.

Sheesh.

@Capn'O

If Morris punched Jokic in the face, would that be a basketball play? Just because it was before a whistle, doesn't make it one.

It's still a dirty elbow, hipcheck, shot at the knee, regardless of when it happens.

[Capn'O]

Youre not getting it.

When two guys are standing around in between whistles there is no reason to body check a guy from behind. THAT IS NOT A BASKETBALL PLAY.

Morris hit was a basketball play, albiet an unnecssessary and excessive one. Flagrant 2.

Sheesh.

@Capn'O

there is no reason

= unnecessary

to body check a guy from behind

= excessive

Exactly how Morris' foul was called.

RJ has it right. Jokic' play was worse BUT it doesn't happen without the instigation.

[Maxthirty]

Youre not getting it.

When two guys are standing around in between whistles there is no reason to body check a guy from behind. THAT IS NOT A BASKETBALL PLAY.

Morris hit was a basketball play, albiet an unnecssessary and excessive one. Flagrant 2.

Sheesh.

@Capn'O

You’re not getting what a basketball play is.

[bubonicphoniks]

Youre not getting it.

When two guys are standing around in between whistles there is no reason to body check a guy from behind. THAT IS NOT A BASKETBALL PLAY.

Morris hit was a basketball play, albiet an unnecssessary and excessive one. Flagrant 2.

Sheesh.

@Capn'O

If Morris punched Jokic in the face, would that be a basketball play? Just because it was before a whistle, doesn't make it one.

It's still a dirty elbow, hipcheck, shot at the knee, regardless of when it happens.

I think that would be borderline assault.

Morris hit was absolutely dirty, but it had traces of a basketball play. Lets not get a body check twisted with a punch in the face or a shot in the head as someone else compared it to.

Sent from my SM-G998U using RealGM mobile app

[The High Cyde]

Lmao Jokic bodied the crap outta Morris and sent him flying, but don’t go poking the bear young man, you’ll get mauled

[bebopdeluxe]

If your argument is that flagrant fouls where there is no play on the basketball should be legislated out of the game - with suspensions without pay meted out to those who do it - I am on board with that. There is no place in the game for non-basketball flagrant fouls.

What Jokic did was WORSE than that.

AFTER the whistle. Morris’ back turned.

There simply is ZERO comparison.

If you want to give Morris a 3-game suspension for his hit on Jokic, fine with me.

By that standard, Jokic gets 7-10 games.

How’s that?

So you don't consider that one action was provoked and another was not? Morris started it with an unnatural foul. He was the instigator.

I am suspending Morris for THREE games. How is that not a material penalty?

Jokic gets the longer suspension because it was AFTER THE WHISTLE. Don't you get that? Huh?

Physical altercations during stoppage time MUST be punished more severely. Right?

I should have known better to get into it with Jokic fanboys on the GB. Damn.

[bubonicphoniks]

Youre not getting it.

When two guys are standing around in between whistles there is no reason to body check a guy from behind. THAT IS NOT A BASKETBALL PLAY.

Morris hit was a basketball play, albiet an unnecssessary and excessive one. Flagrant 2.

Sheesh.

@Capn'O

You’re not getting what a basketball play is.

My man look this type of body check has been always called, but allowed to a certain extent. Check the precedent. Its kinda in our game. NBA can get rid of it if they really wanted to.

After the whistle body checks are common sense bad/wrong.

Sent from my SM-G998U using RealGM mobile app

[Duffman100]

Youre not getting it.

When two guys are standing around in between whistles there is no reason to body check a guy from behind. THAT IS NOT A BASKETBALL PLAY.

Morris hit was a basketball play, albiet an unnecssessary and excessive one. Flagrant 2.

Sheesh.

@Capn'O

You’re not getting what a basketball play is.

My man look this type of body check has been always called, but allowed to a certain extent. Check the precedent. Its kinda in our game. NBA can get rid of it if they really wanted to.

After the whistle body checks are common sense bad/wrong.

Sent from my SM-G998U using RealGM mobile app

Isn't a Flagrant 2 by definition "that wasn't a basketball play so you have to leave the game now?"

A personal foul is a basketball play. A Flagrant two is not.

[CobraCommander]

Read on Twitter

So now the Morris twins making subtle threats on Twitter...bad idea. Man these guys do not get Serbians are not going to be impressed by tough talk...

Hoping this is a joke

[Kurtz]

If your argument is that flagrant fouls where there is no play on the basketball should be legislated out of the game - with suspensions without pay meted out to those who do it - I am on board with that. There is no place in the game for non-basketball flagrant fouls.

What Jokic did was WORSE than that.

AFTER the whistle. Morris’ back turned.

There simply is ZERO comparison.

If you want to give Morris a 3-game suspension for his hit on Jokic, fine with me.

By that standard, Jokic gets 7-10 games.

How’s that?

So you don't consider that one action was provoked and another was not? Morris started it with an unnatural foul. He was the instigator.

I am suspending Morris for THREE games. How is that not a material penalty?

Jokic gets the longer suspension because it was AFTER THE WHISTLE. Don't you get that? Huh?

Physical altercations during stoppage time MUST be punished more severely. Right?

I should have known better to get into it with Jokic fanboys on the GB. Damn.

You're being overly punitive/dramatic on this. Morris doesn't deserve 3 games for this.

Ibaka chocked a guy and pounded him with his fist and got 3 games. That's your measurement stick.

Morris will get 1 game or big fine, Joker will get 1-2 games, call it a day.

[Nate505]

This thread just goes to show how much likeability plays into the reaction.

Taking names out of it, what I see is Player X giving Player Y a bad elbow to the ribs (and making contact with Player Y's knee) that should have been a Flagrant. Then Player Y gets angry and gives him a full force forearm shot to the back. Like Player X's reaction to the hit may have been over the top at points, but he didn't flop when he got hit. There was a lot of force in that hit.

To me what Player Y did was worse, even though I get he didn't fire the first shot. The reaction was disproportionate to the foul he received.

Then when you replace the names to Morris, a known **** and a half (the fact he's brother is an even bigger one doesn't help him, but still), and Jokic, a guy who is almost universally liked, the narrative becomes different.

[bubonicphoniks]

You’re not getting what a basketball play is.

My man look this type of body check has been always called, but allowed to a certain extent. Check the precedent. Its kinda in our game. NBA can get rid of it if they really wanted to.

After the whistle body checks are common sense bad/wrong.

Sent from my SM-G998U using RealGM mobile app

Isn't a Flagrant 2 by definition "that wasn't a basketball play so you have to leave the game now?"

A personal foul is a basketball play. A Flagrant two is not.

Pretty much. Which makes it a part of the game in a sense.

There isnt really clear cut direction on what Jokic did. (Flagrant 3!)

Sent from my SM-G998U using RealGM mobile app

[bubonicphoniks]

This thread just goes to show how much likeability plays into the reaction.

Taking names out of it, what I see is Player X giving Player Y a bad elbow to the ribs (and making contact with Player Y's knee) that should have been a Flagrant. Then Player Y gets angry and gives him a full force forearm shot to the back. Like Player X's reaction to the hit may have been over the top at points, but he didn't flop when he got hit. There was a lot of force in that hit.

To me what Player Y did was worse, even though I get he didn't fire the first shot. The reaction was disproportionate to the foul he received.

Then when you replace the names to Morris, a known **** and a half (the fact he's brother is an even bigger one doesn't help him, but still), and Jokic, a guy who is almost universally liked, the narrative becomes different.

Bingo. Well written and I agree.

Sent from my SM-G998U using RealGM mobile app

[Arsenal]

Read on Twitter

So now the Morris twins making subtle threats on Twitter...bad idea. Man these guys do not get Serbians are not going to be impressed by tough talk...

Hoping this is a joke

Not the smartest move to threaten a guy with 6'10" Serbian gangster brothers lol...

[Sgt Major]

Watch on YouTube

You see the guy in black and white jersey at 0:40 going after everyone? That was Jokic's coach before he came to the NBA. He's now working for the Warriors and coaching their centers.

[heatwillbeback]

I honestly don’t really care who is suspended over this.

I think original foul was excessive. Response was excessive. Jokic will get a game or two I think, but that’s about it.

I am all for the team using it as a building/chemistry exercise though. That I have enjoyed. Use whatever leverage is made available.

[Duffman100]

This thread just goes to show how much likeability plays into the reaction.

Taking names out of it, what I see is Player X giving Player Y a bad elbow to the ribs (and making contact with Player Y's knee) that should have been a Flagrant. Then Player Y gets angry and gives him a full force forearm shot to the back. Like Player X's reaction to the hit may have been over the top at points, but he didn't flop when he got hit. There was a lot of force in that hit.

To me what Player Y did was worse, even though I get he didn't fire the first shot. The reaction was disproportionate to the foul he received.

Then when you replace the names to Morris, a known **** and a half (the fact he's brother is an even bigger one doesn't help him, but still), and Jokic, a guy who is almost universally liked, the narrative becomes different.

It's not just likeability, it's a history of behaviour.

[bebopdeluxe]

So you don't consider that one action was provoked and another was not? Morris started it with an unnatural foul. He was the instigator.

I am suspending Morris for THREE games. How is that not a material penalty?

Jokic gets the longer suspension because it was AFTER THE WHISTLE. Don't you get that? Huh?

Physical altercations during stoppage time MUST be punished more severely. Right?

I should have known better to get into it with Jokic fanboys on the GB. Damn.

You're being overly punitive/dramatic on this. Morris doesn't deserve 3 games for this.

Ibaka chocked a guy and pounded him with his fist and got 3 games. That's your measurement stick.

Morris will get 1 game or big fine, Joker will get 1-2 games, call it a day.

I don't disagree with you. I am merely responding to the Jokic fanboys who refuse to acknowledge that 1) hard, flagrant fouls WHILE THE CLOCK IS RUNNING happen in the NBA; and 2) cheap shots AFTER THE WHISTLE have NO PLACE in the NBA.

Jokic should get penalized significantly more than Morris. I will be disappointed if that is not the case. The NBA does NOT want stop-action brawls on the court. I am sure Adam Silver was not happy to see a STRETCHER being brought on the court because Jokic acted like a knucklehead.

[SFour]

Youre not getting it.

When two guys are standing around in between whistles there is no reason to body check a guy from behind. THAT IS NOT A BASKETBALL PLAY.

Morris hit was a basketball play, albiet an unnecssessary and excessive one. Flagrant 2.

Sheesh.

@Capn'O

a flagrant 2 foul isn't a basketball play....that's why the player is ejected from the basketball game