Nikola Jokic Shoves Markieff Morris After Morris's Foul; Both Ejected

[Sedale Threatt]

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This is exactly the type of crap I was talking about a few pages ago. It’s the first quarter and you’re out here trying to start a brawl with a cheap offensive foul and then losing your poise when somebody hits you back. Cheap, dirty sht that doesn’t even help your team. A few incidents like this and it’s like, can we please get this moron off our team?

[sjballer03]

One guy did a hard foul on a player with the ball.

The other guy blindsided somebody outside of the flow of play.

Those are not comparable.

Oh, so cheap shots are cool in live ball situations?

Got it.

Don't think anybody said what Morris did was 'cool', but sure, I guess it's easier to just make things up than actually respond to points.

If the word "cool" is confusing you, replace it with "okay."

So, are cheap shots okay in live ball situations?

[CobraCommander]

Only a Morris brother would be dumb enough to publicly announce his plan to retaliate violence during a sanctioned organized basketball game.

Uh there are gangs getting arrested in Chicago because they posting on Reddit about murders and talking about actual killings in their music...so it’s kinda a thing now a days lol

Meant in the NBA playa. Hence the basketball game part.

Yeah there are dummies everywhere, but these two make Javale McGee look like an NBA scholar.

I’m legit embarrassed for the Morris twins....

[Texas Chuck]

Fanboys for the reigning mvp… who would be a fan of the MVP? I mean it’s not like he is the most valuable player - lol

Jokic didn’t try to break his neck- jokic got pissed because he got body checked and body checked Morris.

I guess I’m a fan boy cause I like good basketball and I don’t want to see the best get hurt on some bs done by a journeyman rotation guy

Being a fan is not the same as being a fanboy, but if the shoe fits, wear it with pride.

I don’t even know what a fan boy is apparently.

I think jokic is one of the 3 best players on earth- does that qualify as a fan boy?

If I saw him in the street or airport, I would say “hmm that’s jokic in my head” in my head but I wouldn’t say a word to him, or get a picture or even acknowledge him beyond that. Does that make me a fan boy?

I think you do know what it means. It's a term used when you are losing an argument. I can't combat another's posters arguments with solid ones of my own, so I attempt to dismiss him or her by labeling and then dismissing them. It's trite.

[Cubbies2120]

Dude I dont have an agenda. It was a dirty foul but it was a play.

What Jokic did was out side the game and he should be suspended.



Thats all.

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So would Jokic have been allowed to wrap up Morris on a rebound and suplex him onto his neck since it's in play? Or maybe punch him in the back of the head while the play was going? After all, it would be a "dirty foul, but in play"?

Thats a flagrant 2 and an ejection. Duh.

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Now I know you're trolling. That response was all I needed, no further responses to you. Good day

[J_T]

I also have to say that I am disgusted by this statement: "You might deem that maybe as a little bit more than just slapping somebody, but after watching it on film, it was a take foul. That's how I saw it. And the play after, that's just absolutely uncalled for."

Coaches not calling Morris' bros' crap for what it is, is pretty much enabling and encouraging them to do it again.

[Sedale Threatt]

I also have to say that I am disgusted by this statement: "You might deem that maybe as a little bit more than just slapping somebody, but after watching it on film, it was a take foul. That's how I saw it. And the play after, that's just absolutely uncalled for."

Coaches not calling Morris' bros' crap for what it is, is pretty much enabling and encouraging them to do it again.

If that’s Spoelstra, he’s in an impossible position. Even if he doesn’t believe what he’s saying, he’s got to have his guy’s back or he’s taking a big risk with the locker room. So pretty much every coach is going to say that.

[Peregrine01]

I also have to say that I am disgusted by this statement: "You might deem that maybe as a little bit more than just slapping somebody, but after watching it on film, it was a take foul. That's how I saw it. And the play after, that's just absolutely uncalled for."

Coaches not calling Morris' bros' crap for what it is, is pretty much enabling and encouraging them to do it again.

That's #heatculture. Stand up for your team no matter how in the wrong they are.

[Darklight]

First off all both deserve to get suspended for 1 game or a couple. On a second note, **** both the morris twins forever, these pieces of **** have tried to injury players for as long as they have been in the league and play dirty. He thought he could cheap shot Jokic of all people and turn around acting like nothing happend? Seriously, wtf are you thinking running into a guy with 2min left in the game while you have been blown out with 20 points and running into a superstars ribs and knee and also a sore knee,that he injuried against Gobert?? Jokic could have gotten a serious career injury in the worst case. Jokic should have honestly swung and taken his **** head off, but that shove will do. He **** around and found out, the man got fact checked.

[bubonicphoniks]

So would Jokic have been allowed to wrap up Morris on a rebound and suplex him onto his neck since it's in play? Or maybe punch him in the back of the head while the play was going? After all, it would be a "dirty foul, but in play"?

Thats a flagrant 2 and an ejection. Duh.

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Now I know you're trolling. That response was all I needed, no further responses to you. Good day

That stuffs happened before flagrant 2 and ejection I believe. 7 game suspension from the league. Artest on Harden.

Refs can only control so much. The max they can even do is flagrant 2 ejection. Is that correct?

[picc]

I also have to say that I am disgusted by this statement: "You might deem that maybe as a little bit more than just slapping somebody, but after watching it on film, it was a take foul. That's how I saw it. And the play after, that's just absolutely uncalled for."

Coaches not calling Morris' bros' crap for what it is, is pretty much enabling and encouraging them to do it again.

If that’s Spoelstra, he’s in an impossible position. Even if he doesn’t believe what he’s saying, he’s got to have his guy’s back or he’s taking a big risk with the locker room. So pretty much every coach is going to say that.

I'd like someone to put that exact same hit on Bam next game, and see if Spo still thinks its just a take foul.

[lakerz12]

I feel like if it was just about anyone else, people would be calling it a total cheap shot and dirty play.

But you guys are mostly giving Jokic a pass.

I'm not a fan of shouldering someone from behind like that. It was a moment of weakness for Jokic.

Morris sort of bodied him, but it wasn't to his back and it didn't look that bad.

[Slim Charlez]

I feel like if it was just about anyone else, people would be calling it a total cheap shot and dirty play.

But you guys are mostly giving Jokic a pass.

I'm not a fan of shouldering someone from behind like that. It was a moment of weakness for Jokic.

Morris sort of bodied him, but it wasn't to his back and it didn't look that bad.

People are giving Jokic a pass because as basketball fans most of us are well aware of the bull the Morris twins are known to do from time to time. Dude had what was coming to him. If you can't stand the heat GTFO the kitchen.

[lakerz12]

I feel like if it was just about anyone else, people would be calling it a total cheap shot and dirty play.

But you guys are mostly giving Jokic a pass.

I'm not a fan of shouldering someone from behind like that. It was a moment of weakness for Jokic.

Morris sort of bodied him, but it wasn't to his back and it didn't look that bad.

People are giving Jokic a pass because as basketball fans most of us are well aware of the bull the Morris twins are known to do from time to time. Dude had what was coming to him. If you can't stand the heat GTFO the kitchen.

Yeah to me that's like saying it's okay to assault someone as long as they're a bad person or they "deserve" it.

I separate the action from the person. I don't think it's ever good to shove someone from behind, whether they deserve it or not.

If you want to confront them then do so face to face.

[Texas Chuck]

I also have to say that I am disgusted by this statement: "You might deem that maybe as a little bit more than just slapping somebody, but after watching it on film, it was a take foul. That's how I saw it. And the play after, that's just absolutely uncalled for."

Coaches not calling Morris' bros' crap for what it is, is pretty much enabling and encouraging them to do it again.

If that’s Spoelstra, he’s in an impossible position. Even if he doesn’t believe what he’s saying, he’s got to have his guy’s back or he’s taking a big risk with the locker room. So pretty much every coach is going to say that.

Yeah Spo is saying what he needs to say publicly. And my guess is he pulled Morris aside and told him to knock it off, we need you on the court, can't risk your health/suspension blah blah blah.

I got zero issues with Spo's comments.

[Cubbies2120]

Thats a flagrant 2 and an ejection. Duh.

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Now I know you're trolling. That response was all I needed, no further responses to you. Good day

That stuffs happened before flagrant 2 and ejection I believe. 7 game suspension from the league. Artest on Harden.

Refs can only control so much. The max they can even do is flagrant 2 ejection. Is that correct?

God damnit here I am responding again.

Your argument was that Jokic's is worse than Morris's because it was not a basketball play - you defined a basketball play earlier as happening DURING PLAY (no whistle blown).

Now, if we follow that logic, if Nikola Jokic picked up Morris and did a piledriver on him before the whistle is blown, it's a basketball play right? Just give him a Flagrant 2 and eject him, regardless of outcome to Morris. It happened before the whistle was blown.

Now, if Jokic pushes Morris in the back after the whistle, rather than picking him up and doing a piledriver on him before the whistle, it's worse because it's a non basketball play? Bruh.

[mouse]

Youre missing the point. The foul was while the game was IN PLAY.

The blast from behind was not.

One is part of the game one isn't.

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So if it occurs during game play regardless of how dirty a foul is its part of the game and acceptable? Morris did try to hurt/injure Jokic with 2 minutes left in a game that was out of reach. Maybe if he wasn't a spineless coward he would have confronted Jokic instead of blindsided him.

Dude I get that you don't like Morris. I'm not particularly fond of him. I love me some Jokic passing.

Bottom line is Jokic was wrong. You cant body slam people clearly after the play. Lol. What is so hard to grasp about this?

I watched Morris hit again. It was an intentional foul to stop a 5v4. Yeah he hit him hard, but it is a basketball play. We see it all the time. Body slamming guys after the whistle, well, we don't see that every day.

Jokic was wrong. They need to slam him and make an example and hopefully we don't see it again.

Like mentioned before maybe a look at an instigstor type rule would be nice for the refs to have in their pockets.



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It's quite obvious what Jokic did was wrong. That doesn't mean what Morris did was right. They were both in the wrong except one of them was retaliating from a clear injury/hurt attempt.

[Yuri Vaultin]

I feel like if it was just about anyone else, people would be calling it a total cheap shot and dirty play.

But you guys are mostly giving Jokic a pass.

I'm not a fan of shouldering someone from behind like that. It was a moment of weakness for Jokic.

Morris sort of bodied him, but it wasn't to his back and it didn't look that bad.

You need to watch Morris' hit again.

Kneed Jokic's recently injured knee - check
Drove elbow into Jokic's vulnerable ribs - check
Blindsided Jokic as he was taking off and placing all weight on targeted knee - check
Did all the above with intent to injury - check, again

Thank #@&*!?: God for replays.

None of the above excuses Jokic's hit, but certainly goes a ways in justifying it.

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[Slim Charlez]

I feel like if it was just about anyone else, people would be calling it a total cheap shot and dirty play.

But you guys are mostly giving Jokic a pass.

I'm not a fan of shouldering someone from behind like that. It was a moment of weakness for Jokic.

Morris sort of bodied him, but it wasn't to his back and it didn't look that bad.

People are giving Jokic a pass because as basketball fans most of us are well aware of the bull the Morris twins are known to do from time to time. Dude had what was coming to him. If you can't stand the heat GTFO the kitchen.

Yeah to me that's like saying it's okay to assault someone as long as they're a bad person or they "deserve" it.

I separate the action from the person. I don't think it's ever good to shove someone from behind, whether they deserve it or not.

If you want to confront them then do so face to face.

Fair. Although him pushing him from behind looked more like a heat of the moment situation rather than him being scared to confront him face to face, again I'm not shedding any tears for the guy, you reap what you sow.