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How overpaid is Derozan, and will it matter?

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Re: How overpaid is Derozan, and will it matter? 

Post#161 » by BullChit » Fri Nov 5, 2021 10:47 am

I literally just received my new Lavine Jersey and I feel like I made a mistake...

Don't get me wrong I love Zach but I love the midrange game more and DeRozan has very quickly turned into my favourite player on the team.

I might just have to overpay on my Jersey budget for the year to get A DDR Jersey...
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Re: How overpaid is Derozan, and will it matter? 

Post#162 » by coldfish » Fri Nov 5, 2021 11:09 am

IMO we are really seeing the value of multiple top level scorers. DDR will rest or have a cold spell at some point. When that happens, I suspect Lavine or Vucevic will be able to step into the breach and keep it from turning into a long losing streak.
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Post#163 » by BullChit » Fri Nov 5, 2021 11:21 am

coldfish wrote:IMO we are really seeing the value of multiple top level scorers. DDR will rest or have a cold spell at some point. When that happens, I suspect Lavine or Vucevic will be able to step into the breach and keep it from turning into a long losing streak.


I just want to see a night call it a preview where Vuc, Zach and DeMar are firing on all cylinders and the Defence is at pre season levels...

I want to see what that does to an opposing team. In fact I want to the team to see what that kind of play does to the opposing team.
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Re: How overpaid is Derozan, and will it matter? 

Post#164 » by sco » Fri Nov 5, 2021 12:46 pm

8 games does not a season make. Hard to extrapolate what DD's numbers are going to be, but IMO, his role as primary playmaker alongside 2nd group will stand. His number of shots per game will depend on whether Vuc can get on track and whether Coby is good enough to make the rotation.

I love that we have a second reliable scoring option, but we need both Vuc to step-up and Coby to be good enough to contribute for this team to have a sustainable winning season.
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Post#165 » by PlayerUp » Fri Nov 5, 2021 12:48 pm

BullChit wrote:I just want to see a night call it a preview where Vuc, Zach and DeMar are firing on all cylinders and the Defence is at pre season levels...


No team is beating that unless they have a production similar to that.
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Post#166 » by PlayerUp » Fri Nov 5, 2021 12:52 pm

Coby will offset alot of the scoring volume when he gets back which is badly needed as the Bulls bench scored 13 points last game. It will be interesting to see if he can breakout offensively now that he is no longer running the point and his primary role will be bench volume scoring. Alot of people have pretty much moved on from Coby but there is still some hope in this new system that he can shine with players that actually balance out his weaknesses.
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Re: How overpaid is Derozan, and will it matter? 

Post#167 » by coldfish » Fri Nov 5, 2021 1:19 pm

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coldfish wrote:IMO we are really seeing the value of multiple top level scorers. DDR will rest or have a cold spell at some point. When that happens, I suspect Lavine or Vucevic will be able to step into the breach and keep it from turning into a long losing streak.


I just want to see a night call it a preview where Vuc, Zach and DeMar are firing on all cylinders and the Defence is at pre season levels...

I want to see what that does to an opposing team. In fact I want to the team to see what that kind of play does to the opposing team.


At some point, the Bulls are going to absolutely hammer someone. Might be saturday, might be in a few weeks but so far the games look flukey to me . . . against the Bulls.

In years past, the Bulls had to have everything right or be playing a terrible team to win, which rarely happened. This year the Bulls are winning against teams with hot shooting, good effort, etc. The Bulls are going to get one of those "all cylinders" games soon and watch out. Chicago is going to beat a good team by 30+.
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Post#168 » by BullChit » Fri Nov 5, 2021 1:26 pm

coldfish wrote:IMO we are really seeing the value of multiple top level scorers. DDR will rest or have a cold spell at some point. When that happens, I suspect Lavine or Vucevic will be able to step into the breach and keep it from turning into a long losing streak.


I just want to see a night call it a preview where Vuc, Zach and DeMar are firing on all cylinders and the Defence is at pre season levels...

I want to see what that does to an opposing team. In fact I want to the team to see what that kind of play does to the opposing team.
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Re: How overpaid is Derozan, and will it matter? 

Post#169 » by FriedRise » Fri Nov 5, 2021 5:13 pm

#5 in the NBA Kia MVP ladder:
https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-durant-rises-to-top

I think we got a steal!
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Post#170 » by kodo » Fri Nov 5, 2021 9:40 pm

Aged like milk.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2021/08/19/executives-and-scouts-vote-derozan-deal-worst-move-of-free-agency/

Executives and Scouts Vote DeRozan Deal “Worst Move” of Free Agency
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Re: How overpaid is Derozan, and will it matter? 

Post#171 » by dougthonus » Fri Nov 5, 2021 10:12 pm

coldfish wrote:At some point, the Bulls are going to absolutely hammer someone.


I mean the Bulls had 30 point leads on two teams this year already... Granted the Pistons and Pelicans stink, but they've hammered two teams already.

In years past, the Bulls had to have everything right or be playing a terrible team to win, which rarely happened. This year the Bulls are winning against teams with hot shooting, good effort, etc. The Bulls are going to get one of those "all cylinders" games soon and watch out. Chicago is going to beat a good team by 30+.


Would be nice to see them hammer a good team.
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Post#172 » by MissileMike » Fri Nov 5, 2021 10:30 pm

dougthonus wrote:
coldfish wrote:At some point, the Bulls are going to absolutely hammer someone.


I mean the Bulls had 30 point leads on two teams this year already... Granted the Pistons and Pelicans stink, but they've hammered two teams already.

In years past, the Bulls had to have everything right or be playing a terrible team to win, which rarely happened. This year the Bulls are winning against teams with hot shooting, good effort, etc. The Bulls are going to get one of those "all cylinders" games soon and watch out. Chicago is going to beat a good team by 30+.


Would be nice to see them hammer a good team.


Maybe tomorrow!
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Post#173 » by Wingy » Sat Nov 6, 2021 11:42 am

MissileMike wrote:
dougthonus wrote:Would be nice to see them hammer a good team.


Maybe tomorrow!


No Thybulle by the sounds. He’s a huge thorn in Zach’s side.

Hammer? Bulls are arriving at the UC tonight like Thor arrived in Wakanda.
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Post#174 » by Pax for Prez » Sat Nov 6, 2021 9:06 pm

Wingy wrote:
MissileMike wrote:
dougthonus wrote:Would be nice to see them hammer a good team.


Maybe tomorrow!


No Thybulle by the sounds. He’s a huge thorn in Zach’s side.

Hammer? Bulls are arriving at the UC tonight like Thor arrived in Wakanda.


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Re: How overpaid is Derozan, and will it matter? 

Post#175 » by kodo » Tue Nov 9, 2021 10:49 pm

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Period=4&PerMode=Totals

After 10 games, Derozan leads the league in 4th quarter points on 61.2% FG% and 80% 3P%, with a +47 +/-.

Honorable mention to Lavine as well at #10, and +33.
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Post#176 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Nov 9, 2021 11:10 pm

This just in: league executives, media, and stat guys are mostly idiots. DeRozan was spot on to call guys like Hollinger a clown.
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Post#177 » by TheFinishSniper » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:39 am



wanted to post this :rofl:
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Re: How overpaid is Derozan, and will it matter? 

Post#178 » by panthermark » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:48 pm

DD had a bad night (shooting anyway)...Bulls win by double digits over a 7-3 team anyway. Noice
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Post#179 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:33 pm

panthermark wrote:DD had a bad night (shooting anyway)...Bulls win by double digits over a 7-3 team anyway. Noice


He did other stuff though. 7 rebs and 6 assists. Our guys can contribute outside of just scoring.
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Post#180 » by Wingy » Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:35 am

Wingy wrote:Prediction: Along with Zach, Derozan will represent us at the All Star game.


My post from 10/27/21. Feels good to be right once in awhile.

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