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2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#241 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue Nov 9, 2021 1:26 am

C-R-E-A-M- wrote:Coby White is available. Boucher is the 4 man Chicago needs


I'd pull the trigger. Makes sense for both sides
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Post#242 » by Morris_Shatford » Tue Nov 9, 2021 3:17 pm

C-R-E-A-M- wrote:Coby White is available. Boucher is the 4 man Chicago needs


I think positionally the deal addresses some needs on both sides and would likely require a little more around the edges to get done.
With that said, what do you see White's role being on the Raps?
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Post#243 » by HumbleRen » Tue Nov 9, 2021 3:23 pm

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C-R-E-A-M- wrote:Coby White is available. Boucher is the 4 man Chicago needs


I think positionally the deal addresses some needs on both sides and would likely require a little more around the edges to get done.
With that said, what do you see White's role being on the Raps?


Spark plug off the bench. Essentially what Flynn is supposed to be but just a more superior talent.
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Post#244 » by Spida888 » Tue Nov 9, 2021 3:29 pm

Morris_Shatford wrote:
C-R-E-A-M- wrote:Coby White is available. Boucher is the 4 man Chicago needs


I think positionally the deal addresses some needs on both sides and would likely require a little more around the edges to get done.
With that said, what do you see White's role being on the Raps?


I haven't watched enough of Coby White, but heard he's more of a combo guard than a point guard. Maybe he can be a spark plug scorer off the bench for us.
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Post#245 » by ItsDanger » Tue Nov 9, 2021 3:49 pm

Coby's ideal role is 6th man scorer. Case of being drafted too high. suffers from chuckitis too often though.

I hear Ayton may be available although I don't believe it.
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Post#246 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue Nov 9, 2021 5:21 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Coby's ideal role is 6th man scorer. Case of being drafted too high. suffers from chuckitis too often though.

I hear Ayton may be available although I don't believe it.


I like Coby. We could really use a 6th man ball handler and it's not like we're going to be keeping Boucher long term anyway.

As for Ayton, I like him but I'm not sure he's a good fit. We are a very poor 3pt shooting team.

It's difficult to formulate plausible, beneficial trades at the moment. Barnes, although not perfect, seems a lot more ready than we originally thought. Anunoby looks like he's taken the leap and Siakam is coming back from injury. We simply can't keep all three of these guys, PLUS Vanvleet AND also expect to add premier talent that pushes us into contention. It just isn't possible.

Moreover, there isn't any of that talent available now or in the foreseeable future, though we know these things can change very quickly. At the moment, the only guys I see potentially available are as follows:

1) Ben Simmons - do not want. Too much overlap between him Siakam, OG and Barnes. For different reasons, Id take them all over him.
2) Jaylen Brown - Could be an interesting add but will definitely cost Siakam and we just paid Trent. Unless we can get good value for Trent in the trade market, this probably isn't the best move.
3) Myles Turner - I think he could really help this team but I don't see a path to a deal. Indy will want OG or Siakam and both are better than Turner. Unless Indy is going to add more value (not sure what else they have that we'd like...Levert?), it makes no sense for us.
4) Bradley Beal - definitely the best player on this list but should Washington decide to move him, they will have no shortage of suitors. Trent would definitely need to be headed the other way but the question is - how much better does Beal make us immediately? How much would we have to pay to outbid everyone else?
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Post#247 » by DelAbbot » Tue Nov 9, 2021 5:29 pm

Coby White is a more-willing-to-pass GTJ

also better handles
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Post#248 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Nov 9, 2021 8:27 pm

Towns is the guy I want. Perfect fit beside Barnes at the 4. SIakam works salary wise, I wonder what else they would want?

FVV/Trent/OG/Barnes/Towns is a hell of lineup
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Post#249 » by HumbleRen » Tue Nov 9, 2021 8:38 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:Towns is the guy I want. Perfect fit beside Barnes at the 4. SIakam works salary wise, I wonder what else they would want?

FVV/Trent/OG/Barnes/Towns is a hell of lineup


He's my #1 target as well. I don't think they would want Siakam though.
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Post#250 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue Nov 9, 2021 10:19 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:Towns is the guy I want. Perfect fit beside Barnes at the 4. SIakam works salary wise, I wonder what else they would want?

FVV/Trent/OG/Barnes/Towns is a hell of lineup


He's my #1 target as well. I don't think they would want Siakam though.


Yeah I don't think they'd want him either. Even if that's all it took, I'm not sure we're that much better after making that swap.
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Post#251 » by HumbleRen » Tue Nov 9, 2021 10:24 pm

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HumbleRen wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:Towns is the guy I want. Perfect fit beside Barnes at the 4. SIakam works salary wise, I wonder what else they would want?

FVV/Trent/OG/Barnes/Towns is a hell of lineup


He's my #1 target as well. I don't think they would want Siakam though.


Yeah I don't think they'd want him either. Even if that's all it took, I'm not sure we're that much better after making that swap.

We're significantly better.

A 25/10/4 Center with this roster is a top 4 seeded team.

FVV, GTJ, OG, Barnes, Towns solves all of our issues in terms of spacing and half court offence.
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Post#252 » by HangTime » Tue Nov 9, 2021 10:59 pm

What do you think would be a realistic offer for Bagley?
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Post#253 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Nov 9, 2021 11:52 pm

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HumbleRen wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:Towns is the guy I want. Perfect fit beside Barnes at the 4. SIakam works salary wise, I wonder what else they would want?

FVV/Trent/OG/Barnes/Towns is a hell of lineup


He's my #1 target as well. I don't think they would want Siakam though.


Yeah I don't think they'd want him either. Even if that's all it took, I'm not sure we're that much better after making that swap.

Were infinitely better. Towns would immediately become our best shooter at a position where spacing can be an absolute game changer.

I don’t believe he is a bad defender either. Minnesota is just a dumpster fire.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#254 » by Rapsfan07 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:07 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
He's my #1 target as well. I don't think they would want Siakam though.


Yeah I don't think they'd want him either. Even if that's all it took, I'm not sure we're that much better after making that swap.

Were infinitely better. Towns would immediately become our best shooter at a position where spacing can be an absolute game changer.

I don’t believe he is a bad defender either. Minnesota is just a dumpster fire.


I don't believe he's a bad defender either. KAT is one of my fav players in the league.

It's just that in order to become legit contenders again, we'd need to pair the two. Adding KAT and losing Siakam makes us a perennial playoff team but I'm not sure it makes us championship material.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#255 » by HumbleRen » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:31 am

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YogurtProducer wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
Yeah I don't think they'd want him either. Even if that's all it took, I'm not sure we're that much better after making that swap.

Were infinitely better. Towns would immediately become our best shooter at a position where spacing can be an absolute game changer.

I don’t believe he is a bad defender either. Minnesota is just a dumpster fire.


I don't believe he's a bad defender either. KAT is one of my fav players in the league.

It's just that in order to become legit contenders again, we'd need to pair the two. Adding KAT and losing Siakam makes us a perennial playoff team but I'm not sure it makes us championship material.


It all depends on Barnes. If he is who we think he can become ..

OG/Barnes/Towns in 2-3 years is a scary sight for any team in the East.
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Post#256 » by Starr1 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:52 am

We should have tried to trade for Maxey with the Sixers. Loving his floater right now.
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Post#257 » by RonaldArtest » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:55 am

HumbleRen wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:Towns is the guy I want. Perfect fit beside Barnes at the 4. SIakam works salary wise, I wonder what else they would want?

FVV/Trent/OG/Barnes/Towns is a hell of lineup


He's my #1 target as well. I don't think they would want Siakam though.

Pretty sure the package would revolve around either OG or Barnes.
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Post#258 » by Mattatron » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:56 am

HangTime wrote:What do you think would be a realistic offer for Bagley?


Chris Boucher...thats it
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Post#259 » by RonaldArtest » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:57 am

Starr1 wrote:We should have tried to trade for Maxey with the Sixers. Loving his floater right now.

We apparently tried to trade for Maxey or Thybulle (or both?) in a Lowry deal last year but Morey wasn’t having it.
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Post#260 » by Starr1 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 1:00 am

Is it just me or are we just short on real 3 point talents? Niang, Korkmaz, Milton, Maxey all on the court together and can all shoot the 3s.

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