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The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread

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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#721 » by Edug27 » Tue Nov 9, 2021 3:13 pm

batabatuta wrote:If we are trading for Ben Simmons without giving up either of the Jays, rest assured it will involve Smart, Schroeder, Nesmith, Langford, Pritchard and Richardson and who knows Rob too. Nesmith, Langford and Rob Williams are the centerpieces here.


Not a chance.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#722 » by jfs1000d » Tue Nov 9, 2021 3:27 pm

The key here is giving Philly salary relief and picks. They aren't getting a top shelf player.

Richardson
Hernangomez
Langford or PP or Nesmith
2 future first rounders

They would probably be interested in something likes this. Richardson and say PP gives them wing defense shooting and bench depth. Hernagomez another banger.

Is that above worth Ben Simmons? No. But he is a broken player who will never play for you again. Them expecting anything more than either rotational guys on short contracts or another problem contract/player.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#723 » by jfs1000d » Tue Nov 9, 2021 3:29 pm

Edug27 wrote:
batabatuta wrote:If we are trading for Ben Simmons without giving up either of the Jays, rest assured it will involve Smart, Schroeder, Nesmith, Langford, Pritchard and Richardson and who knows Rob too. Nesmith, Langford and Rob Williams are the centerpieces here.


Not a chance.


We can't trade Smart until Jan. 25.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#724 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Nov 9, 2021 7:55 pm

Edug27 wrote:
batabatuta wrote:If we are trading for Ben Simmons without giving up either of the Jays, rest assured it will involve Smart, Schroeder, Nesmith, Langford, Pritchard and Richardson and who knows Rob too. Nesmith, Langford and Rob Williams are the centerpieces here.


Not a chance.

The only way Simmons goes to Boston is in a 3 way trade.

I would watch Boston/Philly/New Orleans.

Boston: Simmons
Philly: Ingram plus other considerations
NO: Some combination of (Langford, Maxey, Milton, Nesmith, Pritchard, Rob Williams, Smart, Richardson, Schroder etc.) tons of draft picks

Basically New Orleans goes the OKC route and doesn't want Simmons. Celtics step in and give prospects and picks.

I wouldn't do it because I don't think highly of Simmons. Three way is the Celtics only route.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#725 » by Curmudgeon » Tue Nov 9, 2021 8:21 pm

If, in a moment of temporary insanity Stevens actually trades for Ben Simmons, the fans here will look back fondly at Kyrie's tenure in Boston and all of the Smart haters will wish we had him back.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#726 » by sogood » Tue Nov 9, 2021 8:45 pm

jfs1000d wrote:The key here is giving Philly salary relief and picks. They aren't getting a top shelf player.

Richardson
Hernangomez
Langford or PP or Nesmith
2 future first rounders

They would probably be interested in something likes this. Richardson and say PP gives them wing defense shooting and bench depth. Hernagomez another banger.

Is that above worth Ben Simmons? No. But he is a broken player who will never play for you again. Them expecting anything more than either rotational guys on short contracts or another problem contract/player.


lmao no they would not, come on.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#727 » by jmr07019 » Tue Nov 9, 2021 9:32 pm

If Philly ends up trading Simmons for role players, late 1st round picks and salary relief it won't be to Boston. They'll make that deal with a Western Conference team. Imagine if Boston were in their position. We wouldn't trade a disgruntled star to Philly and risk watching them win titles with our former star.

I still think Simmons for Kyrie ends up going down. Nets and 6ers just need to come to terms with reality.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#728 » by snowman » Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:19 am

Wouldn't mind Simmons on the Celts as long as he plays PF, ALONG SIDE Tatum and Brown. Instant no from me if Brown is included. Now if we're talking Smart in the deal, I'll listen. I also don't want Nesmith going anywhere.
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Post#729 » by Fierce1 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:43 am

snowman wrote:Wouldn't mind Simmons on the Celts as long as he plays PF, ALONG SIDE Tatum and Brown. Instant no from me if Brown is included. Now if we're talking Smart in the deal, I'll listen. I also don't want Nesmith going anywhere.


Sixers would insist the Celtics NOT include Smart and would prefer the Celts give the Sixers Nesmith instead.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#731 » by Fierce1 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:29 am

2 hours ago – via Brian Robb @ Booth Newspapers
Multiple league sources were adamant to MassLive.com that the Celtics have no interest in moving the All-Star Brown in the interim, particularly with him under team control for two more seasons at a below-market deal. 76ers general manager Daryl Morey has always aimed high in trade negotiations throughout his career but this is posturing will likely go nowhere given what’s happened to Simmons’ trade value over the past several months in the midst of his holdout.
https://hoopshype.com/rumor/celtics-not-interested-in-trading-jaylen-brown/
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#732 » by Fierce1 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:31 am

After watching Jaylen for 2 seasons, I was not impressed.

I thought he reached his ceiling and he's looking more like Kedrick Brown.

But Jaylen proved doubters wrong after getting that contract extension.

Jaylen works hard and is always trying to improve every year.

No matter what, I think the Celts should stick with Tatum and Brown, even if it them up to 2029 to get a ring.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#733 » by ddb » Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:48 pm

NuckyPowell wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:I just read that morey wanted brown, rob williams, smart and multiple firsts for simmons and green and brad hjng up phone.

Via shams instagram

He's truly delusional, if true.


I'm starting to think that this Simmons situation is going to drag out to the point where it's going to make Morey look really bad. What he's looking for in return simply isn't possible. Will Philly ownership eventually get sick of this act by Morey? If you aren't going to trade Ben Simmons, then someone else will....You're Fired or resign.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#734 » by ddb » Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:48 pm

I would think there are very few players Brad Stevens would trade Jaylen Brown for......KAT is one of them.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#735 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:52 pm

ddb wrote:
NuckyPowell wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:I just read that morey wanted brown, rob williams, smart and multiple firsts for simmons and green and brad hjng up phone.

Via shams instagram

He's truly delusional, if true.


I'm starting to think that this Simmons situation is going to drag out to the point where it's going to make Morey look really bad. What he's looking for in return simply isn't possible. Will Philly ownership eventually get sick of this act by Morey? If you aren't going to trade Ben Simmons, then someone else will....You're Fired or resign.

Going to make Morey look really bad? That ship has sailed.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#736 » by ddb » Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:40 pm

Wow rumor circulating that Ainge could be Blazers next GM if Olshey is fired. Looking forward to Danny sending us Dame for Smart/Richardson/Juancho/Romeo/3 1sts and 2 pick swaps. hahahaha
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#737 » by playa-hater » Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:59 pm

snowman wrote:Wouldn't mind Simmons on the Celts as long as he plays PF, ALONG SIDE Tatum and Brown. Instant no from me if Brown is included. Now if we're talking Smart in the deal, I'll listen. I also don't want Nesmith going anywhere.


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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#738 » by playa-hater » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:01 pm

Fierce1 wrote:After watching Jaylen for 2 seasons, I was not impressed.

I thought he reached his ceiling and he's looking more like Kedrick Brown.

But Jaylen proved doubters wrong after getting that contract extension.

Jaylen works hard and is always trying to improve every year.

No matter what, I think the Celts should stick with Tatum and Brown, even if it them up to 2029 to get a ring.


:o :noway:

I may not make it that long!
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#739 » by playa-hater » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:05 pm

ddb wrote:Wow rumor circulating that Ainge could be Blazers next GM if Olshey is fired. Looking forward to Danny sending us Dame for Smart/Richardson/Juancho/Romeo/3 1sts and 2 pick swaps. hahahaha


well Ainge does love assets :D

but no way I see Dame fitting in with Tatum and Brown.. or at least like we hope.. which player would sacrifice their offense/shooting for the greater good.. No one would..
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#740 » by Fierce1 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:22 pm

playa-hater wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:After watching Jaylen for 2 seasons, I was not impressed.

I thought he reached his ceiling and he's looking more like Kedrick Brown.

But Jaylen proved doubters wrong after getting that contract extension.

Jaylen works hard and is always trying to improve every year.

No matter what, I think the Celts should stick with Tatum and Brown, even if it them up to 2029 to get a ring.


:o :noway:

I may not make it that long!


That can change in a heartbeat.

If Brad can upgrade the roster in January or February, the Celts will have a shot at a finals appearance.

This current Celts team are only lacking shooting efficiency.
If Brad can surround Tatum and Brown with shooters, the sky is the limit for this team.

One of the biggest reasons why this Celts have the potential to go far in the playoffs is the great play from Al Horford this season.

Celts basically have most of the tools needed for a championship team.

But the reality is, in today's NBA, if you're not good from the 3pt line, you're not going to get to the finals.

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