Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “

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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#161 » by jazzfan1971 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:33 pm

I gotta admit, I thought Portland would be much better this year.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#162 » by improper » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:40 pm

He calls the way the game is officiated this year unacceptable. I call the way the game has been officiated the past few years unwatchable. I was quickly losing interest in the NBA because every game was about who could find the most creative ways to get to the free throw line, and it just wasn't fun to watch. Now, the game is physical again and games go by a hell of a lot quicker. It makes for a much more pleasing viewing experience.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#163 » by Dominator83 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:40 pm

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Currygoat wrote:Told you’ll lol. You can literally shove people going to the rim and step in players landing zones and they still won’t call a foul. If you see a foul call a foul


Nonsense. Ive seen people get flagrants for stepping in landing zones this year and shoving someone going to the basket will be called 100% of the time if the officials see it.

Again, the changes do two things: stoping players from creating fouls themselves and actually allowing people to play defence in this league again.

You know currygoat is actually James Harden right....

He trying to generate energy to change the rules cause they soft....

We now know these dudes are not better scorers than guys that played in 90s with the hand check and we should give all 90’s early 2000s guys a 15 to 20% scoring boost if we compare the players from different eras!

He's a troll. It's the Same guy that said Peja Stojakovic (spell?) Was better than Reggie Miller.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#164 » by HangTime » Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:21 am

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HangTime wrote:Who's the most disrespected player on your team? The guys that are drawing contact, but the refs swallow their whistles on?

For the Raptors, I think Anuonby could easily get 8 FT per game, even with the way game is being called now. He's only averaging 2.3 FTA.
The rule changes have really hurt Anunoby. His FTs per game are down to 2.3. Last year he had a career high of 2.4.

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Well, last year he could have easily averaged more than 10 FTA, Thats not Including the 'terrible' fouls from years past.
The Refs hate him for some reason.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#165 » by Edrees » Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:38 am

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floppymoose wrote:Steph has no issue with the new rules. You would think a guy with a currygoat username would be on the same page with him.


My respect for Curry has increased 10-fold. I thought these rules were going to have a very significant impact on his effectiveness, particularly as defenses are honed in on him while Klay is out.

But somehow, almost inexplicably, he adapted and is having an absolute monster of a season. It's wild.

For every player that bitches just lifts the Curry legend even further up.


I think Curry is more used to playing in games where he doesn't get the calls so he has developed his game to adapt already. For example, every finals series he has played in, everyone has been allowed to be physical with him. I think over time he's finally learned to adjust, but it didn't come easy. Other players are feeling it for the first time.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#166 » by Buzzard » Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:46 am

I agree with Dame. The inconsistencies have been the worse I've ever seen. The reason is to target certain players. The rhyme is they don't mind seeing others getting to the line.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#167 » by J_T » Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:50 am

There were plenty of games last season where I wasn't sure was I watching Trae or Dame. Felt like a stare was enough for refs to award him FT's. I was expecting him to take a heavy hit.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#168 » by CIN-C-STAR » Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:50 am

Buzzard wrote:I agree with Dame. The inconsistencies have been the worse I've ever seen. The reason is to target certain players. The rhyme is they don't mind seeing others getting to the line.


I can't imagine anything more inconsistent than how Harden was called the past few seasons vs how role players were officiated.
I think what you're seeing now is just refs missing calls, not being inconsistent in how they're calling the game.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#169 » by Buzzard » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:00 am

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Buzzard wrote:I agree with Dame. The inconsistencies have been the worse I've ever seen. The reason is to target certain players. The rhyme is they don't mind seeing others getting to the line.


I can't imagine anything more inconsistent than how Harden was called the past few seasons vs how role players were officiated.
I think what you're seeing now is just refs missing calls, not being inconsistent in how they're calling the game.

I think the changes implemented are so great they don't know how to call the game anymore. That is probably not going to change until they take the emphasis off the specified players; and put it on just calling a clean and fair game.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#170 » by Nate505 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:40 am

The new rule changes are not only acceptable, they've been the greatest addition to basketball since the advent of the shot clock.
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Post#171 » by art_tatum » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:46 am

New rules def affecting Lillard trae harden LeBron etc.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#172 » by Roy The Natural » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:33 am

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DaPessimist wrote:Love Dame, but a 6' jumper shooter averaging 8 FTA a game isn't what fans want.


Dames never been just a jumpshooter though. That's on you for not understanding how much he attacks the rim



He doesn't attack the rim that much anymore. He used to, but now he takes more 3pnt shots than he does 2pnt shots.


He still attacks the rim a good deal. Not as much as he used to, but he still on the higher end for PG sized players. Especially once you factor that his FTA primarily come attacking the rim.
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Post#173 » by Roy The Natural » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:35 am

Man... 9 pages in and I'm still uncertain if people are talking about the rule changes to address flopping, or the way the game is being reffed. I feel like these two things are getting conflated and lumped into one.
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Post#174 » by MrBigShot » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:50 am

Hey it aint the refs fault dame is shooting 26% from three.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#175 » by Teen Girl Squad » Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:05 am

Roy The Natural wrote:Man... 9 pages in and I'm still uncertain if people are talking about the rule changes to address flopping, or the way the game is being reffed. I feel like these two things are getting conflated and lumped into one.


Its really the latter. Very few people are unironically calling for the removal/change of the flopping rule (though some people still do, enjoying the craftiness of it). In regards to the ref changes, I echo the majority that its been a major net positive and has led to more creative/skilled offense and more effective defense. I haven't seen many examples of flagrant fouls being missed on drives. I just think a lot of people watching the past 5-8 years of the league have just gotten used to all the incidental contact being auto fouls when in fact it was just defense all along. I am far from someone who nostalgizes the past but if you've watched the league for a while, nothing happening right now reads as unusual or unfair. Much like nothing but the 3 ball gets boring, having half of the league's backcourt rely on just having a quick first step got pretty boring pretty fast.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#176 » by JoseRizal » Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:06 am

The way the game has voted you as one of the 75 greatest players in unacceptable...
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#177 » by AussieCeltic » Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:11 am

HangTime wrote:
old skool wrote:
HangTime wrote:Who's the most disrespected player on your team? The guys that are drawing contact, but the refs swallow their whistles on?

For the Raptors, I think Anuonby could easily get 8 FT per game, even with the way game is being called now. He's only averaging 2.3 FTA.
The rule changes have really hurt Anunoby. His FTs per game are down to 2.3. Last year he had a career high of 2.4.

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Well, last year he could have easily averaged more than 10 FTA, Thats not Including the 'terrible' fouls from years past.
The Refs hate him for some reason.


Yes there is a league wide conspiracy to not give OG the 10 free throws a game he deserves. It truly boggles my mind people can’t see how green their goggles are sometimes.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#178 » by Alatan » Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:14 am

Heej wrote:I don't know what people are watching but some of the hacks people are getting away with are absolutely ridiculous. I saw Danny Green literally jump on top of RJ Barrett and get awarded with a tie up. If you're shoving defenders with both arms on a drive it's a foul. F***ing call it. This is like the inverse of 2005 when they took away handchecking and refs over corrected and scoring ballooned. Now refs are over-correcting by not calling fouls. Just be consistent

There have always been missed calls but even if there are more now because of the new rules id rather endure a few missed calls than watch players flop an foulbate the whole game. It was so bad that dudes tryed playing D with their hands behind the back and still got baited. Glad that crap is in the past.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#179 » by Roy The Natural » Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:18 am

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Roy The Natural wrote:Man... 9 pages in and I'm still uncertain if people are talking about the rule changes to address flopping, or the way the game is being reffed. I feel like these two things are getting conflated and lumped into one.


Its really the latter. Very few people are unironically calling for the removal/change of the flopping rule (though some people still do, enjoying the craftiness of it). In regards to the ref changes, I echo the majority that its been a major net positive and has led to more creative/skilled offense and more effective defense. I haven't seen many examples of flagrant fouls being missed on drives. I just think a lot of people watching the past 5-8 years of the league have just gotten used to all the incidental contact being auto fouls when in fact it was just defense all along. I am far from someone who nostalgizes the past but if you've watched the league for a while, nothing happening right now reads as unusual or unfair. Much like nothing but the 3 ball gets boring, having half of the league's backcourt rely on just having a quick first step got pretty boring pretty fast.


Is discouraging driving to the rim really what we want though? In a league bombing away from 3... Making it harder and less rewarding to drive probably isn't the answer we should be looking for.

I've read like 60 posts in this thread and I have to say I completely disagree with your conclusion that the overarching focus of this thread is on the physicality allowed with recent reffing. Something like 70%-80% of posts are tinged with talk of rules manipulation and flopping, which is an ENTIRELY different subject than guys getting hammered on their way into the paint and getting roughed off course.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#180 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:19 am

The game is finally being officiated correctly and we are seeing a far more enjoyable product.

These whining manipulators can kiss off and grow a pair and adapt.

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