Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “

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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#181 » by brettski » Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:21 am

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Wow that was disgusting to watch, so many horrendous calls


Not to mention how ready and quick the refs were in blowing the whistle too.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#182 » by God Squad » Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:27 am

I love Dame, But dude predominantly gets his points of jump shots. Just make shots dude. I'd say the same for a player like Tatum or anyone complaining who's jump shot reliant.
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Post#183 » by JN61 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:21 am

jazzfan1971 wrote:I gotta admit, I thought Portland would be much better this year.

Leader of the team gotta shoot better than Westbrook from the 3 to do that. Don't blame the team of Blazers on his blunders.

McCollum has been solid, Powell elite roleplayer and basically everyone but Lillard shooting the ball well.
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Post#184 » by benhillboy » Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:57 am

Does he care (or realize) that Nurkic and Powell have higher FT rates this season than their career averages? Of course not.

Easily my most hated player in the league. Harden is horrible as well but at least he keeps his mouth shut most of the time so as to not reveal his character (or lack thereof).

Lilliard is supposedly an All Time Top 75 player with a -9 net rating this season, picture that. I’m sorry but people who think he’s anywhere near a great player with his off ball, defensive, and shot selection profile should just stop watching the NBA altogether. You’ll never get “it.” If you’ve ever mentioned his name in the same breath with Steph you should turn yourself in to authorities.
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Post#185 » by dhsilv2 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:19 pm

SpreeS wrote:We will see this year who are boys and who are mans


What is a mans? And do you need a see a doctor for it?
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Post#186 » by dhsilv2 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:26 pm

zeebneeb wrote:The rules changes are universally loved by fans. I have never seen a rule change like this that has been so slanted in polls, and perception, ever.(favorably)

To me this sends the messege that Dame doesn't care about the fans, or their enjoyment of the game that allows him to make millions, and I don't see any other way to slice it.

I really like Dame as a player, so to hear him say this is disappointing as hell.


You realize both can be true and are true, right? It's the same thing in most topics. When there are "two sides" both are wrong or both are right. No issue is two sided.

The rule changes overall have been a blast and are great. They are also making horrible calls and it's hurting the game.
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Post#187 » by Jcity08 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:52 pm

As long as the blatant foul hunting is targetted, I have no problem. If your game relied on gimmicky fouls to get to the line, maybe you should adapt.
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Post#188 » by LAL1947 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:53 pm

We're now starting to see the difference between what it took for Jordan/Kobe to average 30+ PPG over a season while playing at an All NBA First Team defense level... and how much easier it's been for stars to average their 25-30 PPG over the last 10 years. Love it!
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Post#189 » by johanliebert » Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:38 pm

benhillboy wrote:Does he care (or realize) that Nurkic and Powell have higher FT rates this season than their career averages? Of course not.

Easily my most hated player in the league. Harden is horrible as well but at least he keeps his mouth shut most of the time so as to not reveal his character (or lack thereof).

Lilliard is supposedly an All Time Top 75 player with a -9 net rating this season, picture that. I’m sorry but people who think he’s anywhere near a great player with his off ball, defensive, and shot selection profile should just stop watching the NBA altogether. You’ll never get “it.” If you’ve ever mentioned his name in the same breath with Steph you should turn yourself in to authorities.

Relax you basketball philosopher. We are not worthy lol.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#190 » by zeebneeb » Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:39 pm

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zeebneeb wrote:The rules changes are universally loved by fans. I have never seen a rule change like this that has been so slanted in polls, and perception, ever.(favorably)

To me this sends the messege that Dame doesn't care about the fans, or their enjoyment of the game that allows him to make millions, and I don't see any other way to slice it.

I really like Dame as a player, so to hear him say this is disappointing as hell.


You realize both can be true and are true, right? It's the same thing in most topics. When there are "two sides" both are wrong or both are right. No issue is two sided.

The rule changes overall have been a blast and are great. They are also making horrible calls and it's hurting the game.
Of course two things can share the truth, but in this case, if the fans are loving the games this season by a massive margin, that would mean regardless of what is actually happening, or how the players feel about it, it's a too bad so sad situation for Dame.

Leveling up the defense is so long overdue, an abrupt correction needed to be made.

The game is amazing to watch right now, fans adore it, and instead of embracing the people who make it possible to earn insane amounts of money, he took to the limelight to trash it. I would oppose additional stoppages in the game, which is what Dame is asking for. more whistles. The flow right now is unbelievable because of the lack of whistles.

That's a big no from me, and ill bet anything you ask NBA fans if they want more fouls, and free throws it would be a collective "Hell no!", thus my "too bad so sad" statement.
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Post#191 » by johanliebert » Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:40 pm

LAL1947 wrote:We're now starting to see the difference between what it took for Jordan/Kobe to average 30+ PPG over a season while playing at an All NBA First Team defense level... and how much easier it's been for stars to average their 25-30 PPG over the last 10 years. Love it!

Jordan averaged 8.2 fta/gm for his career. Superstar calls started with him.
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Post#192 » by johanliebert » Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:45 pm

MikeM wrote:Only the real scorers survived this. DeRozan's been getting hacked for years. Ain't nothing changed for him, that's why he's at the top.

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Post#193 » by JN61 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:53 pm

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LAL1947 wrote:We're now starting to see the difference between what it took for Jordan/Kobe to average 30+ PPG over a season while playing at an All NBA First Team defense level... and how much easier it's been for stars to average their 25-30 PPG over the last 10 years. Love it!

Jordan averaged 8.2 fta/gm for his career. Superstar calls started with him.


Jordan averaging .358 ftr vs Lillard's .332 looks stupidly low when you consider how much he attacked the rim in ~10 first years of his career... And totals is interesting concept to bring up in Lillard thread when other guy averaged 20% more FGA for his career and 14% higher usage, having highest usage in the NBA history (recorded usage).
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#194 » by NoStatsGuy » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:03 pm

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Currygoat wrote:Told you’ll lol. You can literally shove people going to the rim and step in players landing zones and they still won’t call a foul. If you see a foul call a foul


Nonsense. Ive seen people get flagrants for stepping in landing zones this year and shoving someone going to the basket will be called 100% of the time if the officials see it.

Again, the changes do two things: stoping players from creating fouls themselves and actually allowing people to play defence in this league again.



And? I’ve seen refs not call those fouls a bunch of times this year. Players that don’t flop are even complaining. Y




thats the thing. i love the rule changes, but dame is not a guy that flops and works defenders like harden, trae, cp3, etc.

sooo if dame says, its a problem, and hes not the only one that says it, then it might be something worth looking into
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Post#195 » by queridiculo » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:12 pm

I enjoy the way the games are called, but right now there's a real problem with refs missing contact from defenders on attempts at the rim.

It's seemingly fine now to redirect airborne players with a shove to the hips/back, it's absurd.

At some point this season there's going to be a correction for specifically that kind of action, it's dangerous and defenders are getting away with obvious fouls.
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Post#196 » by NoStatsGuy » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:19 pm

queridiculo wrote:I enjoy the way the games are called, but right now there's a real problem with refs missing contact from defenders on attempts at the rim.

It's seemingly fine now to redirect airborne players with a shove to the hips/back, it's absurd.

At some point this season there's going to be a correction for specifically that kind of action, it's dangerous and defenders are getting away with obvious fouls.


100%

it just takes someone to get horrificly injured landing awkwardly and what not. amares shove to bogut comes in mind, idk if you remember that play. it was in april 2010. but amare just did give bogut a rly slight shove, nothing extreme. but bogut had some speed, so he basically had enough of a shove, where he started turning upside down and gruesomely broke his arm.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#197 » by Impuniti » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:26 pm

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Nonsense. Ive seen people get flagrants for stepping in landing zones this year and shoving someone going to the basket will be called 100% of the time if the officials see it.

Again, the changes do two things: stoping players from creating fouls themselves and actually allowing people to play defence in this league again.



And? I’ve seen refs not call those fouls a bunch of times this year. Players that don’t flop are even complaining. Y




thats the thing. i love the rule changes, but dame is not a guy that flops and works defenders like harden, trae, cp3, etc.

sooo if dame says, its a problem, and hes not the only one that says it, then it might be something worth looking into

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Dame is one of the biggest divers in the game, do you even watch the game? He has constantly gotten soft fouls throughout his career.
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Post#198 » by Heej » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:28 pm

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Heej wrote:I don't know what people are watching but some of the hacks people are getting away with are absolutely ridiculous. I saw Danny Green literally jump on top of RJ Barrett and get awarded with a tie up. If you're shoving defenders with both arms on a drive it's a foul. F***ing call it. This is like the inverse of 2005 when they took away handchecking and refs over corrected and scoring ballooned. Now refs are over-correcting by not calling fouls. Just be consistent

There have always been missed calls but even if there are more now because of the new rules id rather endure a few missed calls than watch players flop an foulbate the whole game. It was so bad that dudes tryed playing D with their hands behind the back and still got baited. Glad that crap is in the past.

Fair enough. Still tho lol they're going wayyyy too far with the contact
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Post#199 » by NoStatsGuy » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:51 pm

Impuniti wrote:
NoStatsGuy wrote:
Currygoat wrote:

And? I’ve seen refs not call those fouls a bunch of times this year. Players that don’t flop are even complaining. Y




thats the thing. i love the rule changes, but dame is not a guy that flops and works defenders like harden, trae, cp3, etc.

sooo if dame says, its a problem, and hes not the only one that says it, then it might be something worth looking into

Read on Twitter


Dame is one of the biggest divers in the game, do you even watch the game? He has constantly gotten soft fouls throughout his career.


i knew someone would come at me with this :D

obviously you try to get what they give you. literally every single play you have in your little video is dame throwing up the ball after the call or with the primary goal being to score the ball. im not saying these are not soft calls, but thats super star treatment. these are the ticky tack fouls and is a completely different topic.

im speaking of stopping to move when you are past a defender so he runs into you, im speaking of hooking up defenders' arms while driving, im speaking of jumping sideways or backwards into defenders' positions, thats what trea and harden do. thats a whole different level.

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oh also, these clips come almos exlusively from the LAL series in the bubble, if you look closely you see caruso running into dame quite a lot. thats still fouls in todays game.
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Post#200 » by Impuniti » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:57 pm

NoStatsGuy wrote:
Impuniti wrote:
NoStatsGuy wrote:

thats the thing. i love the rule changes, but dame is not a guy that flops and works defenders like harden, trae, cp3, etc.

sooo if dame says, its a problem, and hes not the only one that says it, then it might be something worth looking into

Read on Twitter


Dame is one of the biggest divers in the game, do you even watch the game? He has constantly gotten soft fouls throughout his career.


i knew someone would come at me with this :D

obviously you try to get what they give you. literally every single play you have in your little video is dame throwing up the ball after the call or with the primary goal being to score the ball. im not saying these are not soft calls, but thats super star treatment. these are the ticky tack fouls and is a completely different topic.

im speaking of stopping to move when you are past a defender so he runs into you, im speaking of hooking up defenders' arms while driving, im speaking of jumping sideways or backwards into defenders' positions, thats what trea and harden do. thats a whole different level.

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oh also, these clips come almos exlusively from the LAL series in the bubble, if you look closely you see caruso running into dame quite a lot. thats still fouls in todays game.

I don't know what to say.. he's clearly not trying to score. How the hell are you stating with a straight face that he's trying to score? He's just throwing the ball up to get a foul.

Harden and Trae are leading the charge, but players like Luka and Dame aren't too far behind. Those fouls wouldn't happen today unless it's obvious. He's not even touching Dame in 2 of those situations, they're garbage calls.

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