Rich Paul: 76ers Have Exacerbated Mental Health Issues For Ben Simmons

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Re: Rich Paul: 76ers Have Exacerbated Mental Health Issues For Ben Simmons 

Post#21 » by Dennis 37 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:29 am

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Lockdown504090 wrote:the raptors have done the same with siakam. love was in trade rumours his whole time during title runs. buddy heild has been in trade rumors and the controversy with bogdanovic and never pulled this crap. what reason does philly have to trade him with 4 years left onhis deal? they aint winning nothing with or without him.


Um, no. The Raptors never said once that they didn't know if they could get to the finals with Pascal.
All of the trade rumours came from sources outside of the Raptors. It came from teams who wanted to lowball the Raptors, thinking the Raptors would bite since Pascal has been inconsistent from the bubble onward. The Raptors never once said that Pascal was on the trade block, nor did they force him to play to up any trade value.
Look at Pascal's body language as he cheers on his teammates in the Sixers/Raptors game tonight. Is that a disgruntled player? I don't think so.

there are numerous reports of him being disgruntled at various times and hes had tons of altercations with the coach. We've known theyve been open to moving him since the bubble. we've seen the way they interact with each other, its obvious. and the coach did win a finals with siakam he had 26 and 10 in the clinching game. and the team didnt force him to play because he has a contract to play basketball, theres only one player who doesnt respect that deal they signed and wants to get paid to mope.

https://www.si.com/nba/2021/03/24/pascal-siakam-nick-nurse-verbal-exchange-crossed-line

regular occurence

they also did use the #4 pick in the draft on a guy at his position, unless you think siakam is a 6'8 center long term.


You are inventing drama where there is none. One incident. Both coach and player said they are fine with each other.
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Re: Rich Paul: 76ers Have Exacerbated Mental Health Issues For Ben Simmons 

Post#22 » by luciano-davidwesley » Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:58 am

Time for the Sixers to call these joker's bluff and say yes Ben we do think you are a liar. What team in their right mind would trade for the Simmons/Paul headache on a supermax?
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Post#23 » by nocomingnogoing » Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:03 am

Have the sixers tried a theme day, cupcakes and ice cream?
Those can help if you are feeling down in the dumps.
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Post#24 » by Winsome Gerbil » Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:16 am

This is just pathetic.
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Post#25 » by Lalouie » Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:33 am

in other words simmons is weak

we knew that. he can't take people and fans coming down on him. that is called buckling under pressure, something all athletes have to deral with

and klutch is viewed as the bad guy elephant in the room is this whole shebang
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Post#26 » by SpreeChokeJob » Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:46 am

He wants to come to Golden State. I wonder what his mental health would be if Draymond called him a b!t@h and told him we can do it without you. Young parasite might disappear forever with pay of course.
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Post#27 » by Topofthekey » Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:47 am

Morey should have just taken McCollum when the offer was on the table, and everyone would have moved on by now
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Post#28 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:38 am

kenwood3333 wrote:Mental health issue develops when Simmons realize he couldn't get paid by not reporting to camp. Sounds more like a financial health issue.


Agree. This is a pretty gross misuse of the "mental health" umbrella. And of course, anyone with an IQ above a rock sees this for what it clearly is, and therefore the whole thing further jades society's opinion on the whole mental health topic. Hearing Rich Paul puke his way through his talking points really disappoints. A new low.

New lows are hard to realize these days.....but props to Rich on the fine work.
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Post#29 » by Darthlukey » Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:21 am

danfantastk32 wrote:
kenwood3333 wrote:Mental health issue develops when Simmons realize he couldn't get paid by not reporting to camp. Sounds more like a financial health issue.


Agree. This is a pretty gross misuse of the "mental health" umbrella. And of course, anyone with an IQ above a rock sees this for what it clearly is, and therefore the whole thing further jades society's opinion on the whole mental health topic. Hearing Rich Paul puke his way through his talking points really disappoints. A new low.

New lows are hard to realize these days.....but props to Rich on the fine work.

I believe he probably has some mental health issues going on, how could he not. What I dont like though is two things: a, how they have tried to weaponise it and b, they have not acknowledged at all how his decisions have led to the problem, they have only blamed the team
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Re: Rich Paul: 76ers Have Exacerbated Mental Health Issues For Ben Simmons 

Post#30 » by Gusto1903 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:26 am

Darthlukey wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:
kenwood3333 wrote:Mental health issue develops when Simmons realize he couldn't get paid by not reporting to camp. Sounds more like a financial health issue.


Agree. This is a pretty gross misuse of the "mental health" umbrella. And of course, anyone with an IQ above a rock sees this for what it clearly is, and therefore the whole thing further jades society's opinion on the whole mental health topic. Hearing Rich Paul puke his way through his talking points really disappoints. A new low.

New lows are hard to realize these days.....but props to Rich on the fine work.

I believe he probably has some mental health issues going on, how could he not. What I dont like though is two things: a, how they have tried to weaponise it and b, they have not acknowledged at all how his decisions have led to the problem, they have only blamed the team


Basically this. F Ben Simmons and F his camp. Real Mental Health activists should step up and say, that stuff like this isnt ok
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Post#31 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:19 am

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Lockdown504090 wrote:ive never seen rich paul in anything other than business attire yet he still looks and sounds more ridiculous than don king at this point.

I think you haven't been watching how the Sixers (front office, coach, players and fans) have been treating him over the last year. Always being shopped around, publicly making him the scapegoat and God only knows how they have treated him behind closed doors and behind his back.

This has been beyond repair for quite some time and the Sixers are only interested in forcing him to play to increase his trade value. It will not happen. Every NBA team knows their dirty laundry so to speak and won't offer more than they are already offering, period. I said before in a different post but if I was Ben and am forced to play, there would no reason to play well and increase my value. No way I'm helping a team get more for me after they basically gave up on me.

That doesn't absolutely justify this BS, it's part of the business and something you're supposed to put up to when you make max money and you don't perform. Players get traded all the time, and in his case he's been linked to a former MVP.
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Post#32 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:19 am

RoyceDa59 wrote:I’m with the Sixers on this one. Both sides have done some foolish things, but Ben has been a complete baby through the entire situation.

Just trade him already.


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Post#33 » by Ryoga Hibiki » Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:22 am

TheCage4 wrote:When it comes to mental health I have a clear understanding from my own personal experiences.

Having lost my twin brother at an early age has caused underlying depression, and after the 9/11 attacks I’ve been diagnosed with PTSD. I have sought professional help in both therapy and prescribed medication.

The whole point of the above- at no time did I stop enduring, living, or working. How many people out there who are much worse off than me can say the same? I’m sure plenty.

I’m not doubting that something is going on with Ben, but it’s time to face it and conquer. This is a character issue more than a medical issue. He has every resource in the world at his disposal to persevere and yet he wallows. He has a real opportunity to be a voice in a very important issue. Take charge kid.

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Post#34 » by br7knicks » Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:17 am

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Post#35 » by thenbaman » Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:51 pm

Sixers not taking any of your crap Rich Paul,loser.
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Re: Rich Paul: 76ers Have Exacerbated Mental Health Issues For Ben Simmons 

Post#36 » by dougthonus » Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:30 pm

Simmons very well may have mental health issues. Probably a sport where you are in the spotlight and will suffer significant criticism isn't for you if that is the case and playing basketball may simply not be the thing Ben Simmons should do with his life.

In terms of payment while fans, the 76ers, Simmons, and his agent will all have their views on what should or shouldn't happen, there are certainly guidelines within the CBA that say what Simmons has to do and what the 76ers have to do and this relationship has gotten to the point where both will likely due the minimum letter of the law thing at this point.
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Post#37 » by K3nny Pow3rs » Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:50 pm

Ben's shooting coach/stepbrother has been accused of molesting his sister. That alone would give anyone mental health issues. Experiencing that stress would make every other problem a hundred times more difficult to handle. Philly's staff are the worst people in the NBA if they can't understand that. Morey and Rivers both need to be permanently removed from the NBA, plus I think Silver should step-in and handle ownership too.
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Post#38 » by MartinToVaught » Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:57 pm

This is absolutely disgraceful from Rich Paul. Mental health issues are serious issues and should never be thrown around so casually to win a negotiation. He and Ben should be ashamed of themselves for stooping to this level - all because Ben is too narcissistic and complacent to actually work on his game and earn his max contract. :noway:

At this point, I'm hoping this saga is the turning point where the league finally realizes how unprofessional Klutch Sports is and stops dealing with them. Paul thinks he's the next Scott Boras, but he's not and he never will be pulling stunts like this. LeBron would be wise to distance himself from these guys because they're tarnishing his legacy by association.
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Post#39 » by MartinToVaught » Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:03 pm

tigerae wrote:I think you haven't been watching how the Sixers (front office, coach, players and fans) have been treating him over the last year.

You're joking, right? The Sixers had been coddling Simmons for his entire career. Doc spent all last season comparing Simmons to Magic and scoffing at anyone who thinks he needs to develop a jump shot. Their patience with him only ran out when he had one of the most humiliating playoff performances in NBA history and his takeaway after the series-clinching loss was "I am what I am, it is what it is."
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Post#40 » by damecurry » Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:34 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:This is absolutely disgraceful from Rich Paul. Mental health issues are serious issues and should never be thrown around so casually to win a negotiation. He and Ben should be ashamed of themselves for stooping to this level - all because Ben is too narcissistic and complacent to actually work on his game and earn his max contract. :noway:

At this point, I'm hoping this saga is the turning point where the league finally realizes how unprofessional Klutch Sports is and stops dealing with them. Paul thinks he's the next Scott Boras, but he's not and he never will be pulling stunts like this. LeBron would be wise to distance himself from these guys because they're tarnishing his legacy by association.


Lol you sound ridiculous and like you have a personal vendetta. They're trashing lebrons legacy by association? Haha come on bro. Noone is ever gonna be like "LeBron? Yeah he could've been a top 3 player all time but staying attached to Rich Paul sure tanked his career and now I don't even think of him as top 10." That's just ludicrous. Lebrons legacy is cemented no swarmy agent is gonna screw that up.

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