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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5) Bubble Championship Friday 10PM (Dallas vs. Golden State) - (Announcement on page 13)
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5) Bubble Championship Friday 10PM (Dallas vs. Golden State) - (Announcement on page 13)
Just a reminder...
Bubble championship tomorrow at 10PM. A matchup of two perennial championship contenders in Dallas and Golden State. Some of the best players in the game will be on display tomorrow night.
Also, nine days left to submit preseason power rankings. Announcement on how to do this is found on page 13 of this thread. So far, we have just two submissions. Hopefully the majority of the league procrastinates until the last minute the way I used to do when I was in school and we get as close to 30 active members as possible. All submissions are due by next Saturday so that Sunday the 21st we can have the unveiling of the 2021-22 preseason power rankings. Any questions, let me know.
Bubble championship tomorrow at 10PM. A matchup of two perennial championship contenders in Dallas and Golden State. Some of the best players in the game will be on display tomorrow night.
Also, nine days left to submit preseason power rankings. Announcement on how to do this is found on page 13 of this thread. So far, we have just two submissions. Hopefully the majority of the league procrastinates until the last minute the way I used to do when I was in school and we get as close to 30 active members as possible. All submissions are due by next Saturday so that Sunday the 21st we can have the unveiling of the 2021-22 preseason power rankings. Any questions, let me know.
All-Time Draft
PG- Oscar Robertson/Bob Cousy
SG- Earl Monroe/James Harden/Dana Barros
SF- Billy Cunningham/Michael Finley/Chet Walker
PF- Elvin Hayes/Dolph Schayes/Tom Chambers/Danny Manning
C- Walt Bellamy/Neil Johnston/Darryl Dawkins
PG- Oscar Robertson/Bob Cousy
SG- Earl Monroe/James Harden/Dana Barros
SF- Billy Cunningham/Michael Finley/Chet Walker
PF- Elvin Hayes/Dolph Schayes/Tom Chambers/Danny Manning
C- Walt Bellamy/Neil Johnston/Darryl Dawkins
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5) Bubble Championship Friday 10PM (Dallas vs. Golden State) - (Announcement on page 13)
Update from Wolverine studios:
WS released their Beta build of their 2021-22 Pro Basketball League yesterday. It is a First Access version which gives users the chance to get into the game and find bugs. It allows the developers a chance to clean up the game before releasing the finished product.
A couple of tidbits from the communication they sent out yesterday. Nothing Earth shattering, but I figured I would pass along all info to keep everyone in the loop as much as possible as we wait out these last few weeks before our season begins.
Looks like the final release will occur like it normally does, sometime around late November-early December. Which puts us on track for an opening night sometime in that first week of December.
Secondly, I found this bit of info interesting:
Obviously everyone is waiting for player ratings to be released. It does look like they will take these next couple of weeks to really evaluate players maybe more than they usually do. They always take the first few weeks of the NBA season to evaluate the rookies and younger players but if they are looking at how the new rules effect everyone, then maybe even some vets may see an increase/decrease in their initial rating based on the NBA season and how they are playing.
WS released their Beta build of their 2021-22 Pro Basketball League yesterday. It is a First Access version which gives users the chance to get into the game and find bugs. It allows the developers a chance to clean up the game before releasing the finished product.
A couple of tidbits from the communication they sent out yesterday. Nothing Earth shattering, but I figured I would pass along all info to keep everyone in the loop as much as possible as we wait out these last few weeks before our season begins.
I expect FirstAccess to last about three weeks. If we need more time than that to make sure the final product is as good as possible we certainly will take it.
Looks like the final release will occur like it normally does, sometime around late November-early December. Which puts us on track for an opening night sometime in that first week of December.
Secondly, I found this bit of info interesting:
- there will certainly be adjustments to player ratings before the final build as the first few weeks of the season will give more clarity into not only the rookies and young players who have taken a leap forward this season but also how the new rules changes regarding foul calls affect stats and the need for adjustment in the sim for that
Obviously everyone is waiting for player ratings to be released. It does look like they will take these next couple of weeks to really evaluate players maybe more than they usually do. They always take the first few weeks of the NBA season to evaluate the rookies and younger players but if they are looking at how the new rules effect everyone, then maybe even some vets may see an increase/decrease in their initial rating based on the NBA season and how they are playing.
All-Time Draft
PG- Oscar Robertson/Bob Cousy
SG- Earl Monroe/James Harden/Dana Barros
SF- Billy Cunningham/Michael Finley/Chet Walker
PF- Elvin Hayes/Dolph Schayes/Tom Chambers/Danny Manning
C- Walt Bellamy/Neil Johnston/Darryl Dawkins
PG- Oscar Robertson/Bob Cousy
SG- Earl Monroe/James Harden/Dana Barros
SF- Billy Cunningham/Michael Finley/Chet Walker
PF- Elvin Hayes/Dolph Schayes/Tom Chambers/Danny Manning
C- Walt Bellamy/Neil Johnston/Darryl Dawkins
Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5) Bubble Championship Friday 10PM (Dallas vs. Golden State) - (Announcement on page 13)
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That is very interesting about them taking into account the new foul rules when developing ratings. Im guessing certain players who had very high SCR ratings in past seasons but use to take advantage of those trips to the charity line but no longer get those easy buckets could see a reduction in their scoring averages.
Looks like I maybe playing Caruso over Wall if this season stats are taken into account, which isn't a terrible thing as it just adds another plus defender into my rotation
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Looks like I maybe playing Caruso over Wall if this season stats are taken into account, which isn't a terrible thing as it just adds another plus defender into my rotation
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Charlotte Hornets
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Ant Man/Tyler Herro
Dillon Brooks/Royce Oneil/Julian Champagnie
Domatas Sabonis/Cam Johnson
Mitch Robinson
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Ant Man/Tyler Herro
Dillon Brooks/Royce Oneil/Julian Champagnie
Domatas Sabonis/Cam Johnson
Mitch Robinson
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5) Bubble Championship Friday 10PM (Dallas vs. Golden State) - (Announcement on page 13)
Interesting. If they’re updating ratings based on the first couple weeks of the season, maybe they’ll also consider mid-season updates.
I guess being a season behind in terms of stats is now a thing of the past?
Either way I’m not worried about Dame and Embiid (who have both struggled early), because winning in this sim has always placed team play over stars alone. Team defense, team scoring, team cohesiveness, team rebounding, complimentary fits, etc. has always had a greater impact than star ratings. If you know you know.
I guess being a season behind in terms of stats is now a thing of the past?
Either way I’m not worried about Dame and Embiid (who have both struggled early), because winning in this sim has always placed team play over stars alone. Team defense, team scoring, team cohesiveness, team rebounding, complimentary fits, etc. has always had a greater impact than star ratings. If you know you know.
BAF- 2020 Champs | 2021 2k Champs

PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Jarred Vanderbilt
PF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Powell, Hachimura, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Collins

PG- Trae Young
SG- Klay Thompson
SF- Jarred Vanderbilt
PF- Giannis Antetokounmpo
C- Wendell Carter Jr.
Bench Mob: Powell, Hachimura, McConnell, Monk, Knecht, Collins
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Was worried a bit about my offense if it was last season stats but with Morant, Ant Man, and Ingram in top 15 in scoring this season it could provide me with some interesting line up combinations when it comes to balancing offense and defense
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Dillon Brooks/Royce Oneil/Julian Champagnie
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5) Bubble Championship Friday 10PM (Dallas vs. Golden State) - (Announcement on page 13)
So the update is saying that my team built around James Harden is doomed already! It's now Cole Anthony and Grayson Allen's team.
Jazz: Under reconstruction, we'll be back.
C- Maluach l Jackson l Hayes
PF- Okongwu l Newell l Salaun
SF- Wiggins l Bryant l McNeeley
SG- Thomas l Sexton l Okogie
PG- Murray l Collier l Dillingham
C- Maluach l Jackson l Hayes
PF- Okongwu l Newell l Salaun
SF- Wiggins l Bryant l McNeeley
SG- Thomas l Sexton l Okogie
PG- Murray l Collier l Dillingham
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Manhattan Project wrote:So the update is saying that my team built around James Harden is doomed already! It's now Cole Anthony and Grayson Allen's team.
Might as well release him
Charlotte Hornets
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Ant Man/Tyler Herro
Dillon Brooks/Royce Oneil/Julian Champagnie
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Mitch Robinson
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Ant Man/Tyler Herro
Dillon Brooks/Royce Oneil/Julian Champagnie
Domatas Sabonis/Cam Johnson
Mitch Robinson
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5) Bubble Championship Friday 10PM (Dallas vs. Golden State) - (Announcement on page 13)
I wouldn't look to deeply into the updated ratings. I think they have always taken the first few weeks of the season to adjust to anyone who looks like a breakout candidate or someone who has dropped considerably from the year before. It has always been used to evaluate rookies. I just thought it noteworthy that they actually mentioned that they were taking the new rules into account this year and putting them into ratings for the vets if they have been positively or negatively effected by them. I do not see any midseason adjustments coming just because of this announcement.
All-Time Draft
PG- Oscar Robertson/Bob Cousy
SG- Earl Monroe/James Harden/Dana Barros
SF- Billy Cunningham/Michael Finley/Chet Walker
PF- Elvin Hayes/Dolph Schayes/Tom Chambers/Danny Manning
C- Walt Bellamy/Neil Johnston/Darryl Dawkins
PG- Oscar Robertson/Bob Cousy
SG- Earl Monroe/James Harden/Dana Barros
SF- Billy Cunningham/Michael Finley/Chet Walker
PF- Elvin Hayes/Dolph Schayes/Tom Chambers/Danny Manning
C- Walt Bellamy/Neil Johnston/Darryl Dawkins
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Charlotte Hornets
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Ant Man/Tyler Herro
Dillon Brooks/Royce Oneil/Julian Champagnie
Domatas Sabonis/Cam Johnson
Mitch Robinson
SGA
Ant Man/Tyler Herro
Dillon Brooks/Royce Oneil/Julian Champagnie
Domatas Sabonis/Cam Johnson
Mitch Robinson
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5) Bubble Championship Friday 10PM (Dallas vs. Golden State) - (Announcement on page 13)
Will Barton and Kyle Kuzma have started the season nicely. Hopefully they see a slight increase in ratings and help boost my bench.

2024 Bubble Champs
1: Thompson | Nembhard | Smart
2: White | Wallace | Clark
3: Dort | Sharpe | Rupert
4: Wembanyama | Green | Bol
5: Gobert | Drummond | Mamukelashvili
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NewEra wrote:Interesting. If they’re updating ratings based on the first couple weeks of the season, maybe they’ll also consider mid-season updates.
I guess being a season behind in terms of stats is now a thing of the past?
Either way I’m not worried about Dame and Embiid (who have both struggled early), because winning in this sim has always placed team play over stars alone. Team defense, team scoring, team cohesiveness, team rebounding, complimentary fits, etc. has always had a greater impact than star ratings. If you know you know.
I wouldn't think they would simply make rash decision on guys with track records based on a couple below standard weeks. A FY last year outweighs a couple weeks this year. Maybe get a sense for rookie and young players but vets shouldn't (I hope) be effected by a poor start.
4-Peat! 22-25 BAF Champion Spurs:
ROSTER
Walker Kessler/Daniel Gafford/Adem Bona
Nikola Jokic/Santi Aldama/Isaiah Stewart
Aaron Nesmith/Josh Hart/Jaime Jaquez
Alex Caruso/Keon Ellis/Justin Champagnie
Steph Curry/Chris Paul/Ryan Rollins
ROSTER
Walker Kessler/Daniel Gafford/Adem Bona
Nikola Jokic/Santi Aldama/Isaiah Stewart
Aaron Nesmith/Josh Hart/Jaime Jaquez
Alex Caruso/Keon Ellis/Justin Champagnie
Steph Curry/Chris Paul/Ryan Rollins
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2010 wrote:Will Barton and Kyle Kuzma have started the season nicely. Hopefully they see a slight increase in ratings and help boost my bench.
Barton has been fantastic
4-Peat! 22-25 BAF Champion Spurs:
ROSTER
Walker Kessler/Daniel Gafford/Adem Bona
Nikola Jokic/Santi Aldama/Isaiah Stewart
Aaron Nesmith/Josh Hart/Jaime Jaquez
Alex Caruso/Keon Ellis/Justin Champagnie
Steph Curry/Chris Paul/Ryan Rollins
ROSTER
Walker Kessler/Daniel Gafford/Adem Bona
Nikola Jokic/Santi Aldama/Isaiah Stewart
Aaron Nesmith/Josh Hart/Jaime Jaquez
Alex Caruso/Keon Ellis/Justin Champagnie
Steph Curry/Chris Paul/Ryan Rollins
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Harden and Dame coming out with 2 star ratings..book itt
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Charlotte Hornets
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Ant Man/Tyler Herro
Dillon Brooks/Royce Oneil/Julian Champagnie
Domatas Sabonis/Cam Johnson
Mitch Robinson
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Ant Man/Tyler Herro
Dillon Brooks/Royce Oneil/Julian Champagnie
Domatas Sabonis/Cam Johnson
Mitch Robinson
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 5) Bubble Championship Friday 10PM (Dallas vs. Golden State) - (Announcement on page 13)
bringbackhoffa wrote:Harden and Dame coming out with 2 star ratings..book itt
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Harrison Barnes 5 star incoming

4-Peat! 22-25 BAF Champion Spurs:
ROSTER
Walker Kessler/Daniel Gafford/Adem Bona
Nikola Jokic/Santi Aldama/Isaiah Stewart
Aaron Nesmith/Josh Hart/Jaime Jaquez
Alex Caruso/Keon Ellis/Justin Champagnie
Steph Curry/Chris Paul/Ryan Rollins
ROSTER
Walker Kessler/Daniel Gafford/Adem Bona
Nikola Jokic/Santi Aldama/Isaiah Stewart
Aaron Nesmith/Josh Hart/Jaime Jaquez
Alex Caruso/Keon Ellis/Justin Champagnie
Steph Curry/Chris Paul/Ryan Rollins
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Charlotte Hornets
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Ant Man/Tyler Herro
Dillon Brooks/Royce Oneil/Julian Champagnie
Domatas Sabonis/Cam Johnson
Mitch Robinson
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Ant Man/Tyler Herro
Dillon Brooks/Royce Oneil/Julian Champagnie
Domatas Sabonis/Cam Johnson
Mitch Robinson
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mpharris36 wrote:bringbackhoffa wrote:Harden and Dame coming out with 2 star ratings..book itt
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Harrison Barnes 5 star incoming
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G: James Harden | Kris Dunn
G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
F: Paul George | Svi Mykhailiuk
F: Neemias Queta| Daniel Theis
C: Nikola Vucevic | Bismack Biyombo
G: James Harden | Kris Dunn
G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
F: Paul George | Svi Mykhailiuk
F: Neemias Queta| Daniel Theis
C: Nikola Vucevic | Bismack Biyombo
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We need 5-star Valanciunas


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G: James Harden | Kris Dunn
G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
F: Paul George | Svi Mykhailiuk
F: Neemias Queta| Daniel Theis
C: Nikola Vucevic | Bismack Biyombo
G: James Harden | Kris Dunn
G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
F: Paul George | Svi Mykhailiuk
F: Neemias Queta| Daniel Theis
C: Nikola Vucevic | Bismack Biyombo
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I think scoring rates of players will go down across the boards making bench and team defense that much more important though. It'll be interesting, I don't think you can rely on a player or two to carry you to the playoffs anymore.
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G: James Harden | Kris Dunn
G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
F: Paul George | Svi Mykhailiuk
F: Neemias Queta| Daniel Theis
C: Nikola Vucevic | Bismack Biyombo
G: James Harden | Kris Dunn
G: Bradley Beal | Josh Richardson
F: Paul George | Svi Mykhailiuk
F: Neemias Queta| Daniel Theis
C: Nikola Vucevic | Bismack Biyombo
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good luck to dallas and golden state tonight! two championship contenders going at it. hopefully we get a classic tonight.

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BAF: Phoenix Suns
PG: Ja Morant / Ajay Mitchell / Ryan Nembhard
SG: Coby White / Quentin Grimes / Kon Knueppel
SF: Keegan Murray / Caleb Martin / Andre Jackson Jr
PF: Matas Buzelis / Tristan da Silva
C: Evan Mobley / Quinten Post / Luka Garza
PG: Ja Morant / Ajay Mitchell / Ryan Nembhard
SG: Coby White / Quentin Grimes / Kon Knueppel
SF: Keegan Murray / Caleb Martin / Andre Jackson Jr
PF: Matas Buzelis / Tristan da Silva
C: Evan Mobley / Quinten Post / Luka Garza