Why isn't Robert Horry in the HoF?

[formula 400]

KC Jones won 8 rings as a player, 2 rings in college, and 2 rings as a coach. Horry's resume doesn't touch KC Jones, and many feel he doesn't belong in the HOF.

kc jones, russell, cousy, etc., and their 15 titles are all recipients/benficiary of the peach basket era: limited teams, limited players league, limited medical, limited skills. throw horry or kyrie in that era and watch them bedazzle them old goons. bedazzle

yeah, it's amazing how evolution works!! let's not judge players on how they performed against their era's real life competition. let's talk hypotheticals, and completely ignore the advancement in medicine and training!! horry's resume doesn't touch KC Jones.

like i said, bedazzle them old goons, bedazzle

[DoItALL9]

The original stretch 4 should certainly be in the Hall of Fame

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Yeah but what does that have to do with Robert Horry?

Under-rated post.

Why, the originality impressed?

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[dhsilv2]

I disagree that Robert Horry was a top 50 player in his prime. Top 50 is not even picking 2 guys from each team. I wouldn't put him at that level. He certainly elevated his game in the playoffs and had his memorable moments, but most of all he was circumstantially lucky.

There are inevitably going to be Danny Greens and Robert Horrys in any sport...guys that were good pieces but not great and had memorable moments and contributed to championships...but weren't all-stars and never came that close to being one.

The guy's highest individual honour was being on the all-rookie second team. I can't put a guy in the hall of fame just because he won a bunch of titles. If he spent his career on the Clippers and the Vancouver Grizzlies nobody would even remember him at this point.

I think Robert Horry himself would laugh at the suggestion that he was a hall-of-fame player.

Danny Green and Robert Horry are GREAT nba players. Neither was anywhere close to average and they weren't lucky either. Again without Horry, Dream for sure doesn't win his first title and likely doesn't win his second. Shaq and Kobe get at least 2 less titles. Duncan at least one less as well. People want to harp on Simmons and Embiid but OLD as hell past his prime Danny Green had his team on their way to the conference finals before he got hurt. He was a major loss for the 76ers.

Again I don't think Horry should be in the all, but you can't name 5 players who were top 3 guys on 5 title teams who aren't in the hall. And you know what....being the best guy not in the hall who was that good on 5 title teams makes Horry one of great all time nba players, just not THAT great. Don't lump him in with being just above average. That's simply not supportable based on his stats, results, or his game. There aren't that many awards for guys who aren't top 20 players and the nba is horrible at giving respect to guys who sacrifice scoring to just win.

Great nba players lol. There’s nothing wrong with being a role player you don’t have to exaggerate their contributions. I saw that fake +/- stat you posted as well Danny plays with starters, it’s easy to use advanced metrics to support a narrative.

Fake? I'd love for you to explain that one.

[LAL1947]

Yeah but what does that have to do with Robert Horry?

Under-rated post.

Why, the originality impressed?

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Because it hadn't received as many +1s as it deserved.

[Pennebaker]

He's not in because the HoF select committee of 24 decided that he's not qualified.

[Winsome Gerbil]

Please let this very bad thread die.

[beantownski]

kc jones, russell, cousy, etc., and their 15 titles are all recipients/benficiary of the peach basket era: limited teams, limited players league, limited medical, limited skills. throw horry or kyrie in that era and watch them bedazzle them old goons. bedazzle

yeah, it's amazing how evolution works!! let's not judge players on how they performed against their era's real life competition. let's talk hypotheticals, and completely ignore the advancement in medicine and training!! horry's resume doesn't touch KC Jones.

like i said, bedazzle them old goons, bedazzle

each era can only play against who's on the court with them. evolution of the game increasing the game's skillset and athleticism doesn't negate what they accomplished. without the "old goons" today's players aren't playing at their level they are now.

[Ballerhogger]

I swear we have this thread every year around the same time . No he is not hof he even admitted he’s not HoF

[MrPerfect1]

Horry simply isn't good enough

Horry should be in the HOF before Melo or Westbrook.

Horry singlehandedly swung 3 different NBA Championships, was the greatest role player of his generation/possibly of all time, and the #1 Most clutch player of his generation.

He is the anti-Westbrook. Westbrook is all about inefficient, high-volume stats that negatively impacts winning that most teams want nothing to do with because he would make them worse.

Horry was an efficient, stretch 4 that was very good defensively, did whatever little things the team needed, and the more important the game the better he became.

Heck, even when Horry was pretty washed up he swung a Title by Hip Checking Nash, causing multiple Suns to be suspended for key playoff games, effectively winning SAS the title that year.

[dickfox]

He isn't great besides hitting 7 clutch shots during the most important moments in the most important games for championship teams.

Will Smith should play him in a biopic.

[TMac Culloch]

Everyone thinks this is a guy who sacrificed for Championships but in Houston they tried to give him a big role which he failed to live up to and was a malcontent. Let's look at more than Championships okay?

[Balls Deep]

Role players should not be in the HOF. It should be reserved for the absolute best. That isn’t the case and he might get in since the basketball HOF is a joke, but that’s what it should be. They need to make a separate NBA HOF and have stricter criteria.

[blitz41]

Role players should not be in the HOF. It should be reserved for the absolute best. That isn’t the case and he might get in since the basketball HOF is a joke, but that’s what it should be. They need to make a separate NBA HOF and have stricter criteria.

Honestly this is the answer to kill 99% of the discussion around the HOF, let the current one continue and honor people for their contributions to basketball whatever they are, and then have a highly selective nba HOF

[GreatWhiteStiff]

I know a lot of you will be angry when derozan and westbrick are in the HOF and Horry is sitting it out.

[King4Day]

James Jones deserves to go in too. So many rings for a role player.