If Steph wins MVP, Chip & Finals MVP this year where does he rank ?

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Re: If Steph wins MVP, Chip & Finals MVP this year where does he rank ? 

Post#41 » by Doctor MJ » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:30 pm

JN61 wrote:It is Durant's to lose right now.

It is a huge if for Curry to perform well in the NBA finals.

I understand why you say that as KD is playing like an MVP (as is Jokic), but still strongly disagree.

If the Warriors keep up what they’re doing, the narrative will consolidate around Curry, and justifiably so given that with him on the court they are currently better than they were in the KD years and better than what KD has ever seen anywhere.

Of course, if the Warriors come back down to earth, that will open the door for others, and there will likely be a lot of momentum for KD.


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Post#42 » by WarriorGM » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:35 pm

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JN61 wrote:It is Durant's to lose right now.

It is a huge if for Curry to perform well in the NBA finals.

I understand why you say that as KD is playing like an MVP (as is Jokic), but still strongly disagree.

If the Warriors keep up what they’re doing, the narrative will consolidate around Curry, and justifiably so given that with him on the court they are currently better than they were in the KD years and better than what KD has ever seen anywhere.

Of course, if the Warriors come back down to earth, that will open the door for others, and there will likely be a lot of momentum for KD.


Is there a reason why KD playing with Harden isn't a thing?
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Post#43 » by JN61 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:46 pm

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Doctor MJ wrote:
JN61 wrote:It is Durant's to lose right now.

It is a huge if for Curry to perform well in the NBA finals.

I understand why you say that as KD is playing like an MVP (as is Jokic), but still strongly disagree.

If the Warriors keep up what they’re doing, the narrative will consolidate around Curry, and justifiably so given that with him on the court they are currently better than they were in the KD years and better than what KD has ever seen anywhere.

Of course, if the Warriors come back down to earth, that will open the door for others, and there will likely be a lot of momentum for KD.


Is there a reason why KD playing with Harden isn't a thing?

Probably because Wiggins has played better than Harden? On top of that Durant has played significantly better than Curry.
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Post#44 » by WarriorGM » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:49 pm

JN61 wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
Doctor MJ wrote:I understand why you say that as KD is playing like an MVP (as is Jokic), but still strongly disagree.

If the Warriors keep up what they’re doing, the narrative will consolidate around Curry, and justifiably so given that with him on the court they are currently better than they were in the KD years and better than what KD has ever seen anywhere.

Of course, if the Warriors come back down to earth, that will open the door for others, and there will likely be a lot of momentum for KD.


Is there a reason why KD playing with Harden isn't a thing?

Probably because Wiggins has played better than Harden? On top of that Durant has played significantly better than Curry.


You saying you'd trade Harden for Wiggins?
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Post#45 » by Impuniti » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:04 pm

Doranku wrote:The people saying "zErO FiNaLs MvPs" are so cringe. Curry was clearly the rightful 2015 FMVP and anyone with even the slightest modicum of basketball knowledge should understand that. Iggy winning the award is just proof that the award needs to be chosen through other means. 11 clueless media personalities clearly can't handle the task.

Iggy played well but he was not some iron defender responsible for shutting Bron down. Bron was averaging over 40 a game on 36 FGA in the first three games of the series before Iggy was inserted into the starting lineup. That is simply unsustainable production over a 7 game series against an elite defense while your best teammates are Timofey Mozgov and Matthew Dellavedova.

It's a shame something entirely out of Curry's control will be held against him for years to come. He deserved that 2015 FMVP.

Iggy averaged 3 more mins when he was inserted into the starting lineup than before that. The entire "Iggy changed everything once he was a starter" is as usual, a legitimately stupid media narrative. It's not like the guy was averaging 15MPG and then became a starter and played 35MPG :lol:
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Post#46 » by Impuniti » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:05 pm

JN61 wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
Doctor MJ wrote:I understand why you say that as KD is playing like an MVP (as is Jokic), but still strongly disagree.

If the Warriors keep up what they’re doing, the narrative will consolidate around Curry, and justifiably so given that with him on the court they are currently better than they were in the KD years and better than what KD has ever seen anywhere.

Of course, if the Warriors come back down to earth, that will open the door for others, and there will likely be a lot of momentum for KD.


Is there a reason why KD playing with Harden isn't a thing?

Probably because Wiggins has played better than Harden? On top of that Durant has played significantly better than Curry.

Doesn't look like it, Warriors are up 11-1 in the league right and were projected as a 6 seed. Your clear vindictive and salty attitude makes me laugh at you every time a Warriors topic on here shows up, you can't help yourself. :lol:
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Post#47 » by Madhouse » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:07 pm

He could push for top 10 if he sweeps those awards.
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Post#48 » by JN61 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:10 pm

Impuniti wrote:
JN61 wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
Is there a reason why KD playing with Harden isn't a thing?

Probably because Wiggins has played better than Harden? On top of that Durant has played significantly better than Curry.

Doesn't look like it, Warriors are up 11-1 in the league right and were projected as a 6 seed. Your clear vindictive and salty attitude makes me laugh at you every time a Warriors topic on here shows up, you can't help yourself. :lol:


Yet once again you can't deny anything I said. Durant is playing heads and shoulders above Curry right now who is playing bellow his own standards. Nobody cares about few game difference at this point of the season especially when warriors have had easiest or 2nd easiest schedule so far.
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Post#49 » by nikster » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:18 pm

Onus wrote:
LesGrossman wrote:
Jfh20 wrote:why do ppl put lebron so high?

Because brainwash by league, media, Nike happens.

If Steph wins again, without any questionable tampering, team constuction, superstar help, it is legitimate to ask what exactly puts LeBron above him, imho. To many people Steph not Bron may be the player of this generation. Not only focussing on the player but also how the game has changed - this is Stephs' league and the game went towards his finesse / crazy shooting style, not Brons' raw force / athleticism.

If steph wins another title and mvp how can anyone put Lebron ahead of him? You give Curry a real superstar to play next to in Kd and everyone whines it’s unfair. You put a real superstar next to Lebron and you might win a title less than 50% chance any given year. Lebron has always had more talent on his teams, Curry is just able to lift his talent he plays with to greater heights. I’m fully expecting by the end of the year they’re going to call this iteration of the warriors a super team like 2015. Haha

Curry has exactly 2 seasons of significant post season success without KD... Lets not act like Lebron had superstar when he carried a team to the finals at 22, or that in 2013 you could say any of his teammates performed at a star level.
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Post#50 » by Impuniti » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:23 pm

JN61 wrote:
Impuniti wrote:
JN61 wrote:Probably because Wiggins has played better than Harden? On top of that Durant has played significantly better than Curry.

Doesn't look like it, Warriors are up 11-1 in the league right and were projected as a 6 seed. Your clear vindictive and salty attitude makes me laugh at you every time a Warriors topic on here shows up, you can't help yourself. :lol:


Yet once again you can't deny anything I said. Durant is playing heads and shoulders above Curry right now who is playing bellow his own standards. Nobody cares about few game difference at this point of the season especially when warriors have had easiest or 2nd easiest schedule so far.

You clearly care, because you make it a point to post it in every single topic! :oops:

I'll take what Curry does offensively to KD's efficiency any day, as does the record right now to show it as well.
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Post#51 » by GeorgeSears » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:27 pm

If he does all of that, he's easily top 10.
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Post#52 » by Flash4thewin » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:30 pm

Onus wrote:
LesGrossman wrote:
Jfh20 wrote:why do ppl put lebron so high?

Because brainwash by league, media, Nike happens.

If Steph wins again, without any questionable tampering, team constuction, superstar help, it is legitimate to ask what exactly puts LeBron above him, imho. To many people Steph not Bron may be the player of this generation. Not only focussing on the player but also how the game has changed - this is Stephs' league and the game went towards his finesse / crazy shooting style, not Brons' raw force / athleticism.

If steph wins another title and mvp how can anyone put Lebron ahead of him? You give Curry a real superstar to play next to in Kd and everyone whines it’s unfair. You put a real superstar next to Lebron and you might win a title less than 50% chance any given year. Lebron has always had more talent on his teams, Curry is just able to lift his talent he plays with to greater heights. I’m fully expecting by the end of the year they’re going to call this iteration of the warriors a super team like 2015. Haha


Context is the key and posts like this is why other people pounce on Curry like last year, when healthy in his prime he failed to lead his team to the playoff.
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Post#53 » by RoyceDa59 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:53 pm

He cracks the top 10 for me… because of his impact on the game and his influence over a generation of kids.

Another title and finally a finals MVP seals it for me.
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Post#54 » by cdubbz » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:10 pm

I'd push out Hakeem.
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Post#55 » by WarriorGM » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:12 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:
Onus wrote:
LesGrossman wrote:Because brainwash by league, media, Nike happens.

If Steph wins again, without any questionable tampering, team constuction, superstar help, it is legitimate to ask what exactly puts LeBron above him, imho. To many people Steph not Bron may be the player of this generation. Not only focussing on the player but also how the game has changed - this is Stephs' league and the game went towards his finesse / crazy shooting style, not Brons' raw force / athleticism.

If steph wins another title and mvp how can anyone put Lebron ahead of him? You give Curry a real superstar to play next to in Kd and everyone whines it’s unfair. You put a real superstar next to Lebron and you might win a title less than 50% chance any given year. Lebron has always had more talent on his teams, Curry is just able to lift his talent he plays with to greater heights. I’m fully expecting by the end of the year they’re going to call this iteration of the warriors a super team like 2015. Haha


Context is the key and posts like this is why other people pounce on Curry like last year, when healthy in his prime he failed to lead his team to the playoff.


Can you show the instances when someone did that with the bottom team the previous year?
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Post#56 » by Cubbies2120 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:21 pm

What if he does this and does it for 3 years straight?

Let's slow our roll here...the only award he's favored for right now is MVP.
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Post#57 » by Cubbies2120 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:22 pm

WarriorGM wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
Onus wrote:If steph wins another title and mvp how can anyone put Lebron ahead of him? You give Curry a real superstar to play next to in Kd and everyone whines it’s unfair. You put a real superstar next to Lebron and you might win a title less than 50% chance any given year. Lebron has always had more talent on his teams, Curry is just able to lift his talent he plays with to greater heights. I’m fully expecting by the end of the year they’re going to call this iteration of the warriors a super team like 2015. Haha


Context is the key and posts like this is why other people pounce on Curry like last year, when healthy in his prime he failed to lead his team to the playoff.


Can you show the instances when someone did that with the bottom team the previous year?


Sure - Tim Duncan.

If you say "But they were only a bottom team because Robinson was injured!", then I'll remind you that the Warriors were only a bottom team because Curry was injured too.

Hell of a long recovery time for the injury he had, too...

Adding on Paul Pierce - bottom team in the East in 2007, NBA champs 2008.
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Post#58 » by WarriorGM » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:32 pm

Cubbies2120 wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
Context is the key and posts like this is why other people pounce on Curry like last year, when healthy in his prime he failed to lead his team to the playoff.


Can you show the instances when someone did that with the bottom team the previous year?


Sure - Tim Duncan.

If you say "But they were only a bottom team because Robinson was injured!", then I'll remind you that the Warriors were only a bottom team because Curry was injured too.

Hell of a long recovery time for the injury he had, too...

Adding on Paul Pierce - bottom team in the East in 2007, NBA champs 2008.


That Spurs situation basically saw the addition of both Robinson and Duncan the next year.

The Celtics saw the addition of KG and Ray Allen.

Also the Spurs and Celtics being near the bottom still weren't the bottom team in the previous year.

So not quite the same as Curry's situation. Now if someone like Harden had somehow joined the team as well maybe you could call the situations similar but alas no one like Harden helped out.
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Post#59 » by Impuniti » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:32 pm

Cubbies2120 wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
Flash4thewin wrote:
Context is the key and posts like this is why other people pounce on Curry like last year, when healthy in his prime he failed to lead his team to the playoff.


Can you show the instances when someone did that with the bottom team the previous year?


Sure - Tim Duncan.

If you say "But they were only a bottom team because Robinson was injured!", then I'll remind you that the Warriors were only a bottom team because Curry was injured too.

Hell of a long recovery time for the injury he had, too...

Adding on Paul Pierce - bottom team in the East in 2007, NBA champs 2008.

Were they literally the worst team in the league?

In games Steph was fit, Warriors would have been 5th in the West last season. They were 2-9 when he got injured, going through one of the easiest schedules of the season during their massive losing run.
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Post#60 » by Hoopstar23 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:32 pm

Cubbies2120 wrote:What if he does this and does it for 3 years straight?

Let's slow our roll here...the only award he's favored for right now is MVP.


he would be in the goat conversation top 3 minimum

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