Is Juluis Randle a fraud?

[F N 11]

He’s not a #1 option but his ego will be his downfall. Along with Thibs enabling him. He knows we are better when he facilitates but he just absolutely have it revert to old ways that has shown to not be winning basketball. He’s annoying and possibly could be chasing bonuses in his contract. He’s not a team player imo.

Do we know what his contractual bonuses are?

Because if that is true, it definitely matches up with the way he is playing. I’ve seen him fight teammates for boards this season and its disgusting

Read on Twitter

I’m sad, I forgot he has a trade kicker and a player option. Man we got finessed. We brought in to Randle but Randle didn’t buy into us. Sad sad scenario…

[Ray Williams]

He’s not a #1 option but his ego will be his downfall. Along with Thibs enabling him. He knows we are better when he facilitates but he just absolutely have it revert to old ways that has shown to not be winning basketball. He’s annoying and possibly could be chasing bonuses in his contract. He’s not a team player imo.

Do we know what his contractual bonuses are?

Because if that is true, it definitely matches up with the way he is playing. I’ve seen him fight teammates for boards this season and its disgusting

Read on Twitter

I’m sad, I forgot he has a trade kicker and a player option. Man we got finessed. We brought in to Randle but Randle didn’t buy into us. Sad sad scenario…

I think it’s time Randall got the Ed Whitson treatment.

[Clyde_Style]

He’s not a #1 option but his ego will be his downfall. Along with Thibs enabling him. He knows we are better when he facilitates but he just absolutely have it revert to old ways that has shown to not be winning basketball. He’s annoying and possibly could be chasing bonuses in his contract. He’s not a team player imo.

Do we know what his contractual bonuses are?

Because if that is true, it definitely matches up with the way he is playing. I’ve seen him fight teammates for boards this season and its disgusting

Read on Twitter

I’m sad, I forgot he has a trade kicker.

Ugh, 15%, Sorry Dolan, pay up

Those incentives are big so seems he is tanking on the defensive end to focus on gobbling up boards and jack shots. Sigh

This is the truth: He did NOT give NY a discount. He was lucky he got as much as he did based on how atrocious he was vs. ATL. The FO probably thought the incentives were a clever motivator, but it is backfiring and he is just whoring for stats. It takes way more intensity and energy to win defensive honors than it does to ballhog for stats

[2010]

More tidbits on Randle’s effect on the team per another NY Post article:

Evan Fournier said Friday he felt the offense was getting too “stagnant.” Kemba Walker sounded as if he could have been referring to Randle when he concurred with Fournier’s theory.

“Every night it’s going to be a different guy,’’ Walker said. “We have enough guys who can really score the basketball. We need to get some more movement together.

[F N 11]

Do we know what his contractual bonuses are?

Because if that is true, it definitely matches up with the way he is playing. I’ve seen him fight teammates for boards this season and its disgusting

Read on Twitter

I’m sad, I forgot he has a trade kicker and a player option. Man we got finessed. We brought in to Randle but Randle didn’t buy into us. Sad sad scenario…

I think it’s time Randall got the Ed Whitson treatment.

lol I could see him turning on us because we don’t want to play through him.

[Clyde_Style]

Read on Twitter

I’m sad, I forgot he has a trade kicker and a player option. Man we got finessed. We brought in to Randle but Randle didn’t buy into us. Sad sad scenario…

I think it’s time Randall got the Ed Whitson treatment.

lol I could see him turning on us because we don’t want to play through him.

Sure, if this is already his mindset, he’d feel like they are depriving of the chance to stat whore himself back to the All-Star game. It is harder to get to the ASG the first time so he probably thinks he can shoot his way back into it

[Clyde_Style]

The poll numbers say a lot BTW

I didn’t expect a two-thirds consensus, but there you have it

[F N 11]

More tidbits on Randle’s effect on the team per another NY Post article:

Evan Fournier said Friday he felt the offense was getting too “stagnant.” Kemba Walker sounded as if he could have been referring to Randle when he concurred with Fournier’s theory.

“Every night it’s going to be a different guy,’’ Walker said. “We have enough guys who can really score the basketball. We need to get some more movement together.

Veterans with better track records trying to say what’s right but Randle will take it as if they are attacking him. Smh

[TheGreenArrow]

More tidbits on Randle’s effect on the team per another NY Post article:

Evan Fournier said Friday he felt the offense was getting too “stagnant.” Kemba Walker sounded as if he could have been referring to Randle when he concurred with Fournier’s theory.

“Every night it’s going to be a different guy,’’ Walker said. “We have enough guys who can really score the basketball. We need to get some more movement together.

Wow!!!!!!!!

[Zenzibar]

He’s not a #1 option but his ego will be his downfall. Along with Thibs enabling him. He knows we are better when he facilitates but he just absolutely have it revert to old ways that has shown to not be winning basketball. He’s annoying and possibly could be chasing bonuses in his contract. He’s not a team player imo. I have always said he’s not a team player because he does not believe in hockey assist. Instead of making the quick pass for the swing he always waits for the guy to be 100% open.

I don’t like him but he’s definitely being enabled and being a priority even if it doesn’t lead to success. 5-1 when guards were being guards. After the Chicago game something happened and he started getting the ball a lot more. Dude needs to be a team player and take defensive seriously. His defense is atrocious and the entire team takes on his tendencies, he’s a black hole.

Bro, I used to hate playing with dudes that hover on the perimeter asking for the ball or if I'm on one side of the court the dude comes all the way over to post his man on my side.

What does Kemba or Evan or RJ do? Ignore him and have him half-ass his way down the court. If the fkn coaches don't see the issue, I don't what's up. But Thibs, Payne and them HAVE to see it, the analytics team has to see it. Leon and Wes has to see it.

Even if Doaln sees it, fk him . But in any event, even he'll want answers regarding their record at home.

[TKKnicks1]

Randle needs to get his head out of his ass and go back to playing like he did during the preseason. Fournier and Kemba could easily get 16-20 a night if he quit being sucha diva.

[Zenzibar]

I think it’s time Randall got the Ed Whitson treatment.

lol I could see him turning on us because we don’t want to play through him.

Sure, if this is already his mindset, he’d feel like they are depriving of the chance to stat whore himself back to the All-Star game. It is harder to get to the ASG the first time so he probably thinks he can shoot his way back into it

Absolutely.

The thing is, Randle can still make the all-star team if:
#1 the Knicks are top 3-4 by the ASG.
#2 Is averaging double digits in rebounding and scoring.
#3 is amoung the leaders in triple doubles.

That doesn't mean he needs to score 30+ point per game. It's as though he's trying to prove it's his team to the others around the league. Carmelo did the same sht with Lin and Stat, turning me off so much I wanted him off the team. Haven't rooted for him since that drama.

Randle is reaching Carmelo status for me, but in less time.

[Capn'O]

Berman hints there may be chemistry issues





Sounds like Berman has been scouring through our forum and reading my posts.

https://nypost.com/2021/11/13/knicks-getting-right-includes-fixing-walker-randle-dynamic/

The takeaway is that Randle is not being a good leader and has set a toxic tone that doesn’t foster camaraderie amongst the team. Bears watching going forward.

That take is spot on to me. JR is guarding his turf. We need them both cooking to have any chance. I'd like to see a players only meeting happen. They're not playing in concert.

Berman wrote it so......

Yall love gossip. Still stuck in 2009. Either the Knicks are good or they aren't good. Boring, I know but everything else is just bull rumors. Berman has no idea what these guys feel about eachother and neither do we.

Berman has nothing to do with what I said, nor do feelings. This is an observation that 2010 made and I agree with. The starting lineup is not playing in concert right now. It's my turn, your turn and the players aren't good enough for that. To make no mention of defense.

[Capn'O]

More tidbits on Randle’s effect on the team per another NY Post article:

Evan Fournier said Friday he felt the offense was getting too “stagnant.” Kemba Walker sounded as if he could have been referring to Randle when he concurred with Fournier’s theory.

“Every night it’s going to be a different guy,’’ Walker said. “We have enough guys who can really score the basketball. We need to get some more movement together.

Yeah but you can't see that when you watch the team. Something something feelings and gossip

[god shammgod]

More tidbits on Randle’s effect on the team per another NY Post article:

Evan Fournier said Friday he felt the offense was getting too “stagnant.” Kemba Walker sounded as if he could have been referring to Randle when he concurred with Fournier’s theory.

“Every night it’s going to be a different guy,’’ Walker said. “We have enough guys who can really score the basketball. We need to get some more movement together.

Yeah but you can't see that when you watch the team. Something something feelings and gossip

nobody likes julius. he's the green arrow of the knicks. sad.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

A better GM would have traded Randle at the deadline last season, like the Clippers did with Tobias Harris a few years ago. They didn't let the winning and career numbers get in the way of reality. We have a second tier player masquerading and being catered to as a tier 1 guy, and if we miss the playoffs this year it's gonna look so stupid.

[Richard4444]

Randle is a very good player and borderline all-star. Great Rebounder, a very good shooter, capable of bully players to get into the rim.

This year, he is forcing too much isos IMO. He is shooting contested jumpers against great defenders early in the shot clock even when he is cold. He is looking a lot like Knicks Melo. The ball does not move. The team is stagnant. Maybe he does not trust their teammates.

You can say it's difficult to define who went first: the egg or the chicken. No one on the starting unit is stepping up and scoring. Kemba gets gassed in the second half. RJ gives up when he shooting or driving is not successful early in the game. Fournier was a no factor in the last 2 weeks.

[Clyde_Style]

More tidbits on Randle’s effect on the team per another NY Post article:

Yeah but you can't see that when you watch the team. Something something feelings and gossip

nobody likes julius. he's the green arrow of the knicks. sad.

Green Arrow has made a criminal referral to the DOJ's Bully Prosecution Division

[BugginOut]

This thread is going to look so stupid in a month, like every other reactionary thread this board makes

We got an allstar/all-NBA who is a guaranteed 20/10/5 every night on a below market contract.

Say what you want about Randle, but he is head and shoulders the best player on a winning team. If you want him to defer more get a player better than him. Every other player on this team, except Rose, looks scared to take a shot. Randle can’t force Kemba and Fournier to generate offense

[Nbabrothers]

He's not built for what Thibs has him doing. He shouldn't be ISOing, he shouldn't be bringing the ball up the court, he shouldn't be option number 1 on offense, he shouldn't be the one with the ball in his hands with 5 seconds left on the shot clock.

I really think if he just played within the offense like Obi, he would be just fine.

This best describes what I’m feeling. I like Randle but I hate him as a number one option. Not too mention. He cracks under pressure

He does crack under pressure unfortunately. One game in the fourth quarter he made only 1 of four free throws. Another game in the fourth he missed two free throws also. But I admit I would like our team to win with him.