Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho

Negrodamus · Post #141 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:57 pm

Edwards almost dropped 50 two games ago. While it was one game, it's kinda hard to trade a guy at that age who's able to do that in any given game. Especially one who appears to buy in on defense to an extent.

You definitely don't trade him for Ben Simmons, a guy who decidedly cannot score 50 in any given game.

DCasey91 · Post #142 » by **DCasey91** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:58 pm

And I’d say thank you for your time here but we are moving on good luck. Simple

Towns is a big part of the Wolves problems.

Don’t get emotionally attached to players especially ones where the history on leaky bigs (one of the worst) don’t bring wins. Doesn’t even play like a C either more like a slow footed stretch 4. Yuck no thank you.

Also thoroughly disappointed in JJJ, Grizzlies need to trade him asap.

On the otherhand Bamba is doing very well after a rocky start

... I like my bigs to do big things.

Post #143 » by **Sixerscan** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:07 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:Russell sucks. People say Simmons disappears in the playoffs well he completely dominated Russell in the last 4 games of that series.

He's flawed as hell, but he was just 22 in his first and only playoff series going against the 4th ranked defense in the league. Still managed to have good scoring output, he just struggled with efficiency.

You don't think we'd benefit from Russell's positional size, passing, and floor spacing?

He’s older than Simmons, people didn’t have any issue dumping on Simmons the year before when he was a rookie against the Celtics.

He’s a bad passer for a point guard. He may be tall but it’s not like he uses his height much. I wouldn’t want to start him in a backcourt with Maxey. I guess we could use him as a sixth man but that’s not really what I’m looking for out of this trade. Hes just not the kind of guy you want in a big role on a good team in my opinion.

Mik317 · Post #144 » by **Mik317** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:31 pm

DLO like Ben used to be a very flashy passer IIRC.

Never translated it seems

stormi · Post #145 » by **stormi** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:46 pm

DCasey91 wrote:Also thoroughly disappointed in JJJ, Grizzlies need to trade him asap.

I loved him coming out man. I thought he was Bosh 2.0.

DCasey91 · Post #146 » by **DCasey91** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:03 pm

stormi wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:Also thoroughly disappointed in JJJ, Grizzlies need to trade him asap.

I loved him coming out man. I thought he was Bosh 2.0.

So did I

Was one of my favs. And he got taller too, I thought he’d be a defensive force.

Turns out he’s a weak rebounder, not a good defender anymore, loves to foul and is shot happy on 3balls and injury prone.

It happens open the gate and let him run free wherever it’s his choosing. Tis but a footnote!

Post #147 » by **Stanford** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:17 pm

I too fell for JJJ

Negrodamus · Post #148 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:24 pm

TBF, Jackson's downfall hasn't been his skillset, but his injuries unfortunately.

stormi · Post #149 » by **stormi** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:26 pm

Negrodamus wrote:TBF, Jackson's downfall hasn't been his skillset, but his injuries unfortunately.

Yeah, hasn't been able to find his rhythm.

Jonathan Isaac too, but even more severely.

But also Isaac is a super weirdo off the court...

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #150 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:29 pm

I would trade Simmons for Russell and added compensation (draft pick or player). I feel like I'm on an island with that one, but I have always been a D'lo fan.

Sixersftw · Post #151 » by **Sixersftw** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:57 pm

stormi wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:TBF, Jackson's downfall hasn't been his skillset, but his injuries unfortunately.

Yeah, hasn't been able to find his rhythm.

Jonathan Isaac too, but even more severely.

But also Isaac is a super weirdo off the court...

Isaac had a lot farther to go developmentally too.

I got conned by JJJ but Isaac is one of the few in 2017 that I was in the ballpark on.

Bum Adebayo · Post #152 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:22 pm

I want no part of D'Bustello, let's go get good players please.

GutUNC · Post #153 » by **GutUNC** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:29 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I would trade Simmons for Russell and added compensation (draft pick or player). I feel like I'm on an island with that one, but I have always been a D'lo fan.

The island you are on is one I would support a thorough bombing of if I were President.

Kobblehead · Post #154 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:33 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I would trade Simmons for Russell and added compensation (draft pick or player). I feel like I'm on an island with that one, but I have always been a D'lo fan.

Fans would switch sides very quick if Russell was on the Sixers. He would fit like a glove and put up big scoring performances.

Negrodamus · Post #155 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:40 pm

DLO is Kork but with better passing and needs the ball in his hands more.

Bum Adebayo · Post #156 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:43 pm

Simmons sucks, we are trying to get a player that is better than him, I have my doubts Russell is one of them, and there are many, many players that are better than playoff Simmons. I only see a chucker who plays zero defense, at least Bum Simmons can defend. But I could be wrong and maybe Wolves are the land of wasted talents.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #157 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:48 pm

GutUNC wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I would trade Simmons for Russell and added compensation (draft pick or player). I feel like I'm on an island with that one, but I have always been a D'lo fan.

The island you are on is one I would support a thorough bombing of if I were President.

Woah!!!!! Good one!

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #158 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:53 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I would trade Simmons for Russell and added compensation (draft pick or player). I feel like I'm on an island with that one, but I have always been a D'lo fan.

Fans would switch sides very quick if Russell was on the Sixers. He would fit like a glove and put up big scoring performances.

Having guards that can put the ball in the hoop is always a recipe for success in the playoffs. It seems as though people forget what it takes to win in the playoffs every year. They get fooled by guys like Buddy Hield in the regular season. D'Lo was a major thorn in our side during that series from a few years ago. I'm in no way trying to sell anyone on here the idea of adding him, but we're getting a donut out of Ben Simmons right now. Nothing from him at all, and I think the longer he sits, the more he cries mental health, the lower his value goes. So at some point (considering all these circumstances), adding D'Angelo Russell might not be such a horrible move. The only thing I don't like about it is that he takes the ball out of Maxey's hands. Again, I am not saying I want Russell here, but it would be better than nothing. I personally for record...think we should go after Keldon Johnson from the Spurs, but that's just me.

stormi · Post #159 » by **stormi** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:53 pm

D'lo would make a tonne of sense alongside Ben and Jo. He's honestly like a super poverty SGA. He can shoot, pass, and sorta run an offense.

Harris for D'lo run it.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #160 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 11:54 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:Simmons sucks, we are trying to get a player that is better than him, I have my doubts Russell is one of them, and there are many, many players that are better than playoff Simmons. I only see a chucker who plays zero defense, at least Bum Simmons can defend. But I could be wrong and maybe Wolves are the land of wasted talents.

Ok, I agree, but how are we supposed to get a player better than Ben Simmons when Ben Simmons is tanking his own value? You just are not going to get a player better than him for him straight up. It's not going to happen. Ok....So...In the NBA world, Ben is an all star right. A player better than him would be a superstar level player! We aren't getting that for him.